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Surgical or no Surgical strike? a difficult way to agreed upon.

If it actually happened it clearly shows the inability of Pakistan defense forces.
How so? Something is wrong with you boy. I tell you what shows inability. Having 18 Indian soldiers sent to Ganga for express reincarnation and then coming up with "surgical fart" as a riposte.

If it is a lie, then also Pakistan defense was give a golden opportunity to strike Indian army because as per India, the army had breached the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Pakistan. Yet Pakistan army didn't responded
Breached? If that was the measure, Indian border (going by Indian government) is breached more often then whore in Mumbai by Pak based "terrorists". What does that show about India.

And can you at least show one flag that shows your a Ganga Deshi or with roots there.
 
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The alleged "Surgical Strike" even if true or false, is nothing more than a probe attack.

  • If it actually happened it clearly shows the inability of Pakistan defense forces. :p:
  • If it is a lie, then also Pakistan defense was give a golden opportunity to strike Indian army because as per India, the army had breached the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Pakistan. Yet Pakistan army didn't responded. :p:
I would consider this more as a bait which India kept for Pakistan and they just grabbed it. India just wanted to probe the escalation potential of Pakistan in either case I guess. :)

Both way's it is a win-win for India and it is Pakistan who has to prove to the world that no Surgical strike actually happened, which they are trying desperately. :p:

How does it show the inability of Pak forces? 3 years ago India accuse Pakistani SSG commandos of a cross border raid killing 5 Indian soldiers. But again they have no proof. And just looks at your own forces recently at Uri.
 
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Two days after surgery , Pakistan still in comma, by Defense Minister. ( while Appreciating PARA ) He said jis ki surgery hoti hai usko pata nahin chalta ki operation me kaya hooaa, ( some one who goes through an operation is not aware what exactly happened during the surgery.
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Just got this pic on my facebook account, Enjoy. ( We should get our kashmir back)
 
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Indeed, this farce from India has many benefits for Pakistan.....What if Kashmiris boil more than ever and take up swift arms against Indian terror army at regular basis and not one off Uri attacks.

Pakistan should keep the support for Kashmiri freedom struggle and resolution. Kashmir bleeds India and will continue to bleed India domestically, internationally, treasure and blood.




dude stop this....Pakistanis already took revenge, 1984 sikh riots in India...Pak PM Benazir handed Sikh separatists to India....who in turn.. killed thousands of Sikhs. The revenge is already taken from Sikhs...


We must now support Khalistan movement ...more than ever before, Junagarh accession , the leader still lives in exile in Pakistan....Junagarh is a cause worth fighting for....take it to UN and International Court of Justice..India is shatterting inside and so you see the chest thumbing outside...attain clear objectives now.
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There are idiots and then there are thundering idiots. If you ask the people of Junagarh, they will chase out the former Nawab's descendants with their footwear. So what will the former leader claim? Is it that you hope that the UN and the International Court of Justice will take a part of India and put it under an independent ruler? Have you thought through the matter, and do you realise how much the UN had to face as the result of a recommendation, an advisory? And you think they will go one step further?
 
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Agreed with everything you have said apart from the last part. Pakistan has now reached a critical stage whereby there is no turning back. India will now NEVER EVER be in a position to launch a full scale invasion/attack of Pakistan. Pakistan is getting more advanced, powerful & stronger each day. CPEC, other less talked about intensive projects and China have all but ensured this. In the coming decades, Pakistan will take it's place on the world stage and become a major force in all aspects. We will reach the dreams the founding fathers of Pakistan had envisaged.
Wake up
Other's are growing even faster then you're s.
All country gone so much mad on 46 billion projects, these days same country buying 76% of a single company in Switzerland for 46 billion in one deal.
Cpec will not change much in world order for you.
 
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So what's your problem?? U can also keep laughing.. Rather than opening the 100th thread of the day and cry the same Ser Gi Kal story..
I didn't cry he was asking for my opinion ... and may I ask why did you open the same 100th thread to just reply me? :coffee:
 
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Pakistanis and Indians are bickering over the audacity of Surgical strike. but how can come it be possible for a layman to believe which type of argument in. Actually both sides can presents lots of arguments to support their belief but for a rational, impartial and truth finder its not the arguments which can buy his belief but the facts and logic. so is there anyway where all the parties can be brought on the same page?
IMO, to gauge the audacity of so-called strike we need to focus on the future developments that are going to be occurred like suppose that India has carried out strike then why did DGMO of India stressed upon the very statement that" these strikes have been stopped and we have no further plan" this statement raise not only red flags but put across the signal of restraining and others like this. if Pakistan is wrong in its saying then there should not be further escalation by Pakistani side by infiltrating in India by sending terrorist, according to indian establishment that Pak does so, but if Pak is right in its saying then it would carry out such covert strike at the place of pakistani choosing where International attention can be gained because pak has got some idea by this drama, according to Pak view, that India is restraining and it can implement the doctrine of limited escalation to offset India`s actions in Balochistan etc.
there are other possible reactions by both sides to be carefully analyzed but for me this is very important because both armies have to respond to their credibility in their respective constituency which has been come into question.
 
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Wake up
Other's are growing even faster then you're s.
All country gone so much mad on 46 billion projects, these days same country buying 76% of a single company in Switzerland for 46 billion in one deal.
Cpec will not change much in world order for you.


Perhaps not for india which has a population of over 1.3 billion but for Pakistan (with a population of 200 million) it is an excellent investment. The $50 billion for CPEC is the initial amount. Many more billions are set to come in the coming years from China. This is unprecedented in Pakistan's history and it is ALREADY having a MASSIVE IMPACT On Pakistan in a positive way. I can confirm this from my recent trip to Pakistan a few months ago. All over Pakistan, world class infrastructure & industrial projects are happening on a scale not seen before and that was deemed impossible only 2 years ago. At the very least CPEC will all but make Pakistan a 2nd tier nation like Iran and at best make Pakistan as developed as Turkey but on a bigger scale.
 
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India currently wants to deescalate the situation. They also think that Pakistan will now retaliate to bleed India. That's why during press conference of Indian DGMO they said we further don't want to escalate the situation. Meaning we will not attack anymore. How come you will not attack does killing 35 terrorist means you have ended the so called cross border terrorism?

And today we received message from PM of India mentioning the same thing they don't want to escalate the situation. I mean come on dude. You are fighting or not fighting. And do you want to end cross border terrorism or not lol .
 
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U know what . I am desperately waiting for upcoming bollywood movie based on these surgical strikes.. lol it will be a great fun phantom 2 .. gus kr maar diya
 
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Meanwhile, in the real world:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/consequences-of-pakistani-terrorism-1475189497#livefyre-comment
Consequences of Pakistani Terrorism
Raids signal that India won’t tolerate more attacks in Kashmir.

India’s doctrine of “strategic restraint” toward Pakistan was tested again Wednesday, after the Indian Army responded to a Sept. 18 attack against an Indian base that killed 19 soldiers by conducting raids against terrorist facilities just inside Pakistan-controlled Kashmir. Islamabad has addressed the incidents with its usual mix of bluster and denial, but if it means to prevent an escalation of violence it needs to shut down the terrorist groups it continues to support.

That should start with Jaish-e-Mohammad (Army of Mohammed) and Lashkar-e-Taiba (Army of the Pure), two major jihadist groups that operate openly in Pakistan and are prime suspects in these attacks. Both groups are supported by its military despite being on United Nations lists of terrorist organizations. Last month the U.S. Defense Department blocked $300 million in reimbursements to Pakistan because of its continuing tolerance of the Haqqani Network that operates in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The Pakistani government insists it had nothing to do with the attack on Uri, as well as with a similar attack in Pathankot in January that killed another seven Indian soldiers. Pakistan’s military goes so far as to deny the raids took place and blamed India for an unprovoked artillery attack across the Line of Control that killed two Pakistani soldiers. Defense Minister Khawaja Muhammad Asif even accused India of staging the Uri attack and repeated past threats to use tactical nuclear weapons.

But as Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi noted in a speech on Sunday, so far this year the Indian Army has thwarted 17 attempts by terrorists to cross the border from Pakistan, killing 110 of them. These incursions often occur under the cover of Pakistani artillery fire. New Delhi also presented evidence Tuesday that the Uri attackers crossed the border from the Pakistani city of Muzaffarabad. Two guides who assisted the infiltrators have been detained.

Mr. Modi has consistently offered closer economic and diplomatic ties to Pakistan as long as it stops supporting terrorism. Pakistan’s democratic government has also long been threatened by the very jihadist groups it helped unleash, particularly the Taliban. And Pakistan increasingly risks becoming a pariah state. Even China, Pakistan’s “all-weather friend” as both countries put it, will have limited patience if Islamic extremism spreads into its Muslim-majority northwest.

Pakistan remains trapped by a national identity based on fomenting religious-based insurgencies in Kashmir. The country needs a new vision centered on improving the lives of its people, and there is no shortage of potentially willing hands, including Mr. Modi’s, to help it move in that direction. What’s needed is political courage in Islamabad, before the crisis in Kashmir escalates.
Attacks on the occupying Indian soldiers will continue. You are welcome to send your paratroops to LoC for shallow raids and we'll make sure to keep pushing those soldiers for recycling through next incarnation. You then keep checking their return whenever you get new puppies, baby monkeys, etc. to see if that the process is working.
 
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Now you can imagine what is his capability, he is a sole winner whether the raids were carried out or not. He has proved himself that without even firing any shots he can bring down the enemy to his knees and after producing the proof atleast top brass of PA should resign.

Which enemy did Modi bring down on his knees? Does modi consider his own soldier, soldier tht is captured by Pakistan army, his enemy? Bcoz, right now, only tht captured soldier must be on his knees, begging for mercy from Pak army...And which proof are u talking abt, after which pak army top brass should resign? Plz enlighten us...
 
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