Sunni and Shia and their divergent path

[Cheetah786]

This truth has no where any reference of Basij, Hizbullah, Ansarullah, TJP, ISO ...Contra Affair, How Iran invited US to Attack Afghanistan, who Iran invited US to invade Iraq ...How Syria was turned into a proxy state ? Who Lebanon was brought under control through Hizbullah and so on ....?

USA to attacked Afghanistan the biggest Wahhabi terrorist Osama bin Laden was hiding In Afghanistan had nothing to do with it.


I hope french authorities are following you and take actions, before millions of Innocent Muslims are judged against your Extremist actions.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

you are putting words into my mouth, I never said anything you are suggesting.. I am simply saying based on his history I dont even need to read his whole post, its full of hatred against shias.
Oh btw, the 'expert' happens to be sunni himself.
As to subservient to arabs, there was an incident in which a bangladeshi was wronged in KSA, and this guy nearly apologized for mere existance of his people. Dig his old posts.

Point out where he is wrong. If you bothered to read his post then you would realize that he is criticizing the "Sunni party" too. In reality this is a conflict about regional hegemony and power and religion (sect because both Sunni and Shia are sects of the same religion) is used as fuel as it's the most effective ideology together with racial ideologies.

Where is the hatred for "Shia's" and who called a "Shia" advocate here? I know around 50 Shias in person from all corners of the world and none of them want to have anything to do with the Iranian Mullah's just like I know twice as many Sunnis who want nothing to do with the KSA leadership.

What has Bangladeshis in KSA to do with anything? Yes, there is a minority of racists in KSA like anywhere else and yes there have been a few unfortunate episodes. Just like there have been millions more of such episodes towards women, minorities, ethnic groups in South Asia.

There have also been episodes such as Bangladeshis on the death row in KSA being freed (blood money paid by local organizations), prisoners freed and a few days ago this news emerged.

Four million Burmese entitled to get long-term residence in Saudi Arabia

Most people in KSA do not give a crap about race. KSA is one of the most diverse countries on the planet due to being located between 3 continents (remaining Asia, Europe and Africa) and due to hajj and umrah that has taken place for the last 1500 years every single year, month, week, day and hour. Due to that every single race lives in KSA today. You have Blacks, Whites, Middle Easterners, South Asians, South East Asians, Central Asians, Horn of Africans, East Asians and locals who are a mixture of various Semitic and non-Semitic peoples etc.

 

[SipahSalar]

Who is killing Egyptian soldiers today? 'Sunni' ISIS.
Who is keeping Pakistani soldiers and civilians? 'Sunni' TTP and LeJ.
Who is killing Iraqi Sunnis right now? 'Sunni' ISIS.
Who is killing Yemenis in various suicide bombings and aerial attacks? 'Sunni' Al-Qaeda and 'Sunni' coalition.
Who is killing Libyans? 'Sunni' ISIS.
Who is slaughtering Nigerians and taking their women, children as slaves? 'Sunni' Boko Haram.
Who is massacring Afghan civilians every chance they get? 'Sunni' Taliban.
Who is bombing 'Sunni' Yemen? 'Sunni' coalition.

Unfortunately, more sunni terrorist organisations exist than shiite, I admit that. I have a very simple question for you. What do you think of Assad? Do you think he is a good leader? Do you deny he is a mass murderer?

 

[Jaanbaz]

The *** kissing skills of OP is unimaginable.

 

[Sage]

USA to attacked Afghanistan the biggest Wahhabi terrorist Osama bin Laden was hiding In Afghanistan had nothing to do with it.

May be you would like to watch this Confession of Ayatullah Khatmei- Ex President of Iran !

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@Saif al-Arab

 

[livingdead]

Point out where he is wrong. If you bothered to read his post then you would realize that he is criticizing the "Sunni party" too. In reality this is a conflict about regional hegemony and power and religion (sect because both Sunni and Shia are sects of the same religion) is used as fuel as it's the most effective ideology together with racial ideologies.

Where is the hatred for "Shia's" and who called a "Shia" advocate here? I know around 50 Shias in person from all corners of the world and none of them want to have anything to do with the Iranian Mullah's just like I know twice as many Sunnis who want nothing to do with the KSA leadership.

What has Bangladeshis in KSA to do with anything? Yes, there is a minority of racists in KSA like anywhere else and yes there have been a few unfortunate episodes. Just like there have been millions more of such episodes towards women, minorities, ethnic groups in South Asia.

There have also been episodes such as Bangladeshis on the death row in KSA being freed (blood money paid by local organizations), prisoners freed and a few days ago this news emerged.

Four million Burmese entitled to get long-term residence in Saudi Arabia

Most people in KSA do not give a crap about race. KSA is one of the most diverse countries on the planet due to being located between 3 continents (remaining Asia, Europe and Africa) and due to hajj and umrah that has taken place for the last 1500 years. Due to that every single race lives in KSA today. You have Blacks, Whites, Middle Easterners, South Asians, South East Asians, Central Asians, Horn of Africans etc.

can you not please put your words into my mouth. Did I say arabs are racist (not claiming the opposite either).. all I said was, based on his history, and what I read upto 3rd para, I can guess what he is going to write.
Imagine an arab being abused in India, and you came and apologized for arab's misbehaviour. Thats the equivalent of what he did.
anyway am sure its all music to you, so carry on.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

can you not please put your words into my mouth. Did I say arabs are racist (not claiming the opposite either).. all I said was, based on his history, and what I read upto 3rd para, I can guess what he is going to write.
Imagine an arab being abused in India, and you came and apologized for arab's misbehaviour. Thats the equivalent of what he did.
anyway am sure its all music to you, so carry on.

You are lying. I was there when that discussion happened and that's not true and what the hell has that to do with anything? There are over 150 million Bangladeshis last time I checked. What are you even trying to start here? The same dumb idiotic discussion about "Arabs being masters of Muslims" etc. bullshit?

I am willing to bet that you have not visited the GCC even once let alone KSA. As I just told you then KSA is one of the most diverse (ethnically and racially) countries on the planet and 95% of all people do not give a crap about race. The most people are interested about is your ancestry in the sense of family/clan/tribal relations but that is also looked down upon if you ask about this if you don't know the person yet.

I am asking you to provide proof of your accusations towards his excellent posts which you cannot do.

@kalu_miah this forum is not the place for serious intellectual discussions, at least not this section. Can you please post this somewhere else?

 

[Sage]

And above all how could Shia and Sunni be friend If Abu Lulu (The Killer of Hazrat Omer) is being worshiped in Iran ?

 

[livingdead]

You are lying. I was there when that discussion happened and that's not true and what the hell has that to do with anything? There are over 150 million Bangladeshis last time I checked. What are you even trying to start here? The same dumb idiotic discussion about "Arabs being masters of Muslims" etc. bullshit?

I am willing to bet that you have not visited the GCC even once let alone KSA. As I just told you then KSA is one of the most diverse (ethnically and racially) countries on the planet and 95% of all people do not give a crap about race. The most people are interested about is your ancestry in the sense of family/clan/tribal relations but that is also looked down upon if you ask about this if you don't know the person yet.

I am asking you to provide proof of your accusations towards his excellent posts which you cannot do.

@kalu_miah this forum is not the place for serious intellectual discussions, at least not this section. Can you please post this somewhere else?

cool.. carry on then. I hope somebody posts that thread here, coz I cant do it.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

cool.. carry on then. I hope somebody posts that thread here, coz I cant do it.

Ok, I still don't get what the hell that has to do with the topic or what has been written in this thread? It's quite frankly as relevant as how many farts you and me have polluted the earth with today.

And above all how could Shia and Sunni be friend If Abu Lulu (The Killer of Hazrat Omer) is being worshiped in Iran ?View attachment 213622

Who cares? The only "Shia's" that care are the Farsis. Probably not more than a few 1000 people outside of that country even know about this grave. Other than knowing that Iranians have a deep fascination with graves of long deceased persons, especially if they happen to be Arabs and if they are buried in Qom or Mashhad.

 

[kalu_miah]

And now the Truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We need to understand what House of sauds Paid Mullah's have been doing since 1700, creating a Wahhabi Terrrosits for themselves, helping the Wahhabi in every place on earth in every way possible and turning them towards Dollar or Pound as their sole spiritual center. A few million population centered on an ideology controlled and developed inTel Aviv, backed by Arabian Oil Wealth stolen by House of saud and M16 , while Wahhabi majority oil rich state of Kuwait Jordan has teamed up with them. This is a significant force, that even the Peace loving world will find difficult to deal with. They are also spread out from India to Arabian peninsula. You can see from the PDF posts, a lot of Pakistani and Indian Muslim posters are Wahhabi and they support House of Saud overtly and covertly. Israel as a state somehow seems to be friendly to them, although they arent Muslims, perhaps because their strong relations with America. So is Fatah, out of gratitude from past help they received from House of saud and AL Qaeda.

In many Sunni countries Housr Of SAUD has been known to target Sunni Muslims to convert them to WAHHABI, I have heard about their activities in Malaysia, Indonesia and Sub-saharan Muslim countries like Nigeria, India & Pakistan, Afghanistan Iraq Syria Libya Yemen. In this respect, their activity is no different than aggressive targeting of Muslims for conversion by Talibichies.

There is a logical fallacy in your post, you are trying to compare the extremist threat from Salafism with the threat from Shi'ism. Here is the difference, Salafism is an internal problem of the Sunni Muslim world that needs to be solved. But Shia on the other hand are an external threat. So the two are not the same, nice try though.

 

[tsinga]

tl;dr shias are wrong and sunnis are right. Because arabs are sunni and I am a slave to arabs.

You hit the nail on the head.

Its amazing the kind of cultural domination that Arabs have on Muslims world wide.

 

[Cheetah786]

There is a logical fallacy in your post, you are trying to compare the extremist threat from Salafism with the threat from Shi'ism. Here is the difference, Salafism is an internal problem of the Sunni Muslim world that needs to be solved. But Shia on the other hand are an external threat. So the two are not the same, nice try though.

When did u get out of Guantanamo Bay!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Saif al-Arab]

You hit the nail on the head.

Its amazing the kind of cultural domination that Arabs have on Muslims world wide.

This is what we are up against @kalu_miah .

I OWN you, do you understand me? You can never escape from my wrath!!!!!! I will only feed you hummus, shawarma, falafel, mandi and kabsa from now on.

 

[kalu_miah]

@kalu_miah this forum is not the place for serious intellectual discussions, at least not this section. Can you please post this somewhere else?

You mean some other sections of this forum or in some other website? I currently do not have PM privilege in this website, if you can PM me, please send a link where we can have this discussion.