Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces

[Saif al-Arab]

Al means what?

You so conveniently forget "Balushi"..



Numbers doesn't mean "diversity".. nor does location.. if people have the same "ethnicity" or origin.




Same clothes, a little different "style".. also clothing aren't the barometer of diversity.. if so than even we Baloch have a lot of "diversity"... probably more than Arabs.



Moron, even today boys are recruited by those counties from Pak..

And even "2 centuries" didn't change jack... nor will it, if your homeland is just an hour by boat.. Oman is just 1 hour by boat from Makran coast.

And even the Baloch who migrated to east Africa to fight the Portuguese still retain their culture and heritage even after "2 centuries".



Yes , 1 photo enough to shred your nonsensical logic of assimilation...

Had they been "assimilated",
They'd not be calling themselves Baloch, nor been wearing their ethnic clothes..



It would indeed be foolish for an Iranian to call Arab "robes" as an Iranian clothing or culture..



Yes we have.

And when we talk about "assimilation"... Ghilzai And other tribes are a real example .. ethnically Turks, today they can't be differentiated from local Pashtun tribes... they speak Pashto,dress and follow same culture...

Why are they even using such a prefix or bin for that matter or changing their original surname to Baloschi if not due to assimilation? Are Baloch people in Southern Afghanistan calling themselves Muhammad bin Ahmad al-Baluschi?

You have already showcased your enormous ignorance on this front. Keep thinking that a tiny ethnic group like Baloch in comparison have a more diverse folklore, culture, traditional clothing etc. than 500 million Arabs spread over 2 continents (all continents if the diaspora is included), over 20 + countries and 100's of ancient historical regions with their own distinct traditions. This has to be one of the biggest jokes that I have seen on PDF yet and I have seen a lot of great jokes and absurd statements.

Sure, moron.

No intermarrying, speaking Arabic as your mother tongue and considering yourself as a Omani. Sure.



Afro-Arabs still retain some of their traditional clothing (which originates in various areas of Sub-Saharan Africa, Sahel, Swahili coastline, Horn of Africa) yet far from all of them speak their original languages. It's called assimilation. Baloch are not any different, especially the old arrivals. You can keep pretending otherwise. When old Arab migrations abroad can become assimilated abroad, everyone else can as well.

Breaking news, Iranians here consider them as Iranians which they are. Similarly Baloch nationals of Oman, many came to Oman long ago and have intermarried, speak Arabic as their mother tongue etc., can be considered as Omani and Arab just as much as all other assimilated/nationalized minorities.

Anyway ignoring what I wrote about @Kuwaiti Girl that disproved your theory of no assimilation? That's one example from PDF alone. So much for that theory. Anyway I don't even need a confirmation of her case. I know a few assimilated people of distant Baloch origin (paternal) who are more Arab than Baloch by ancestry and who speak no word of Baloch and who consider themselves Saudi Arabians. Just like I know Saudi Arabians of Circassian origin who are no differently. One such example is Ibn al-Khattab. Half Circassian yet he spoke no word of it.

Anyway enough of Baloch talk, lol. This is a thread about the Omani military, not Balochs.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Why are they even using such a prefix or bin for that matter or changing their original surname to Baloschi if not due to assimilation? Are Baloch people in Southern Afghanistan calling themselves Muhammad bin Ahmad al-Baluschi?

You have already showcased your enormous ignorance on this front. Keep thinking that a tiny ethnic group like Baloch in comparison have a more diverse folklore, culture, traditional clothing etc. than 500 million Arabs spread over 2 continents (all continents if the diaspora is included), over 20 + countries and 100's of ancient historical regions with their own distinct traditions. This has to be one of the biggest jokes that I have seen on PDF yet and I have seen a lot of great jokes and absurd statements.

Sure, moron.

No intermarrying, speaking Arabic as your mother tongue and considering yourself as a Omani. Sure.



Afro-Arabs still retain some of their traditional clothing (which originates in various areas of Sub-Saharan Africa, Sahel, Swahili coastline, Horn of Africa) yet far from all of them speak their original languages. It's called assimilation. Baloch are not any different, especially the old arrivals. You can keep pretending otherwise. When old Arab migrations abroad can become assimilated abroad, everyone else can as well.

Breaking news, Iranians here consider them as Iranians which they are. Similarly Baloch nationals of Oman, many came to Oman long ago and have intermarried, speak Arabic as their mother tongue etc., can be considered as Omani and Arab just as much as all other assimilated/nationalized minorities.

Anyway ignoring what I wrote about @Kuwaiti Girl that disproved your theory of no assimilation? That's one example from PDF alone. So much for that theory. Anyway I don't even need a confirmation of her case. I know a few assimilated people of distant Baloch origin (paternal) who are more Arab than Baloch by ancestry and who speak no word of Baloch and who consider themselves Saudi Arabians. Just like I know Saudi Arabians of Circassian origin who are no differently. One such example is Ibn al-Khattab. Half Circassian yet he spoke no word of it.

Anyway enough of Baloch talk, lol. This is a thread about the Omani military, not Balochs.

Listen up, your got your rear on fire for no fukin reason.. other than the fact that your tiny arabi ego can't handle the fact that Baloch preserved their heritage and are proud of it..

Nough said.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Listen up, your got your rear on fire for no fukin reason.. other than the fact that your tiny arabi ego can't handle the fact that Baloch preserved their heritage and are proud of it..

Nough said.

Sure, as if I care about whether they do or not as long as they are loyal citizens. Some have done that, mostly expats but not only, while others have been assimilated and that is clearly bothering you. One such example is a PDF user here that you yourself began to mention in this discussion.

Anyway hopefully this thread can return to the actual topic which is the Omani military.

Dhofar Rebellion:

An ignored conflict that occurred during the "Arab Cold War".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhofar_Rebellion

The last civil war in a GCC state. To this day the current Sultan is mostly admired due to opening Oman up (modern perspective) and modernizing it but first and foremost for eventually solving the Dhofar Rebellion and preventing a division of Oman. The rebellion/civil war lasted for 13 years (1963-1976) and 12.500 people died, including over 700 Iranian soldiers. Ironically, compared to current-day events, KSA and Iran were on the same side in that conflict. The side of the Brits. Meanwhile the rebellion was supported by the Soviets and China. Hence it being part of the "Arab Cold War" and wider "Cold War". South Yemen was on the side of the rebellion and South Yemen is interesting because it was the only country in the Arab and Islamic world that willingly became a communist country.

Not only that South Yemen (which borders Dhofar) remained communist after the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Yemen

Today many of the Southern Yemeni nationalists are socialist or have socialist tendencies. This is similar to Southern Iraq where the communist party during the Cold War was strong. Today Islamism/religious parties have gained the by far biggest upper hand but it is interesting to take a trip back memory lane and notice how quickly things can change.

 

[Mian Babban]

Arabs are a homogeneous people .. same origin,divided into tribes/families.

I doubt that, you will come across Gulf Arabs with surnames "Al-Hindi", "Al-Turki" etc. There are also millions of Saudis who are descendants of Habshis/Ethopians......In Qatar , i came to know that many Arab Shaikhs were actually of Iranian origin. The pure Arabs, the Bedouins of Qatar, had dark complexions and some what Afro-textured hair, and Yemenite looks which can not be called beautiful. While the so called Arabs of Iranian stock were distinguished by fair-complexion, smooth hair and good looks. According to 16th century Mughal source, Zubdat-ul-Tawarikh, there was even a settlement of Afghans in Mecca. The Arabs in cities and towns of Saudi-Arabia are mixed people while the Bedouin tribes are pure Arabs characterized by their typical looks which appear semi-Afro to Caucasians.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I doubt that, you will come across Gulf Arabs with surnames "Al-Hindi", "Al-Turki" etc......In Qatar , i came to know that many Arab Shaikhs were actually of Iranian origin. The pure Arabs, the Bedouins of Qatar, had dark complexions and some what Afro-textured hair, and Yemenite looks which can not be called beautiful. While the so called Arabs of Iranian stock were distinguished by fair-complexion, smooth hair and good looks. According to 16th century Mughal source, Zubdat-ul-Tawarikh, there was even a settlement of Afghans in Mecca. The Arabs in cities and towns of Saudi-Arabia are mixed people while the Bedouin tribes are pure Arabs characterized by their typical looks which appear semi-Afro to Caucasians.

No such thing troll. 95% of all Qataris are originally from Najd, including the ruling family.

Those are Afro-Arabs and more precisely the Rashaida tribe from Eritrea and Sudan that have been intermarrying with local Africans for a very long time.

In fact I am quite sure that the first photo is not even of Rashaida.

This is the average look of Bedouins:

From the Rub' al-Khali:



Bedouins have always been considered as Caucasian by Western racialists. Nor are Bedouins a uniform people. Many outsiders have been absorbed into Bedouin tribes throughout the ages nor are Bedouins "pure" Arabs as there is no such thing.

People of Afghan origin in KSA can be counted on a few hands. Intermarried with locals ages ago. Similarly to the Arabs of Northern Afghanistan and Tajikistan.











Using your logic half of all Pashtuns are Dravidians.

 

[Mian Babban]

Pure Arab looks in Najd , for example Banu Tamim, look more or less like Indians. While those near to Africa have visible African looks to them.

Here is former Emir of Qatar who looks like a North-Indian.

Sultan of Oman looks like an Indian, thats how a pure Arab is supposed to look like

A boy from Yemen, thats the semi-Afro textured hair i was talking about

Arabs might have non-Arab Caucasoid looks because they kept a lot of slaves from Caucasus, North-Africa (Berbers), Greece, Anatolia, Iran etc during Umayyid and Abbasid periods from whom they produced children. In Islam, the children born from a female slave were free and were inheritors of the name and property of the person. They also Arabized non-Arab populations of North Africa and Syria.

Early Arabs who entered Spain, were called "Moors" which means dark-skinned. The same term was also used for black-Africans

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Pure Arab looks in Najd , for example Banu Tamim, look more or less like Indians. While those near to Africa have visible African looks to them.

Here is former Emir of Qatar who looks like a North-Indian.

Arabs might have non-Arab Caucasoid looks because they kept a lot of slaves from Caucasus, North-Africa (Berbers), Greece, Anatolia, Iran etc during Umayyid and Abbasid periods from whom they produced children. In Islam, the children born from a female slave were free and were inheritors of the name and property of the person. They also Arabized non-Arab populations of North Africa and Syria.

Najdis do not look remotely South Asian. No non-mixed Arabs or Semites look like South Asians. We have a distinctive look that is typical and common in the wider Middle East and MENA region.

If you want to see how the average Najdi looks like take a look at the House of Saud or Al Ash-Sheikh family.

Those Al-Thanis look like "Northern Indians" too:



















Even the previous Emir does not look like that to me:



As for Banu Tamim (which are present all over the Arab world from Morocco to Oman) this is a typical "pure" Najdi Tamimi look:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_al_Uthaymeen

The photos that you have posted (in order to troll) are photos of Afro-Arabs. Afro-Arabs are a small minority of the 500 million Arabs.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Pure Arab looks in Najd , for example Banu Tamim, look more or less like Indians. While those near to Africa have visible African looks to them.

Here is former Emir of Qatar who looks like a North-Indian.

Sultan of Oman looks like an Indian, thats how a pure Arab is supposed to look like

Arabs might have non-Arab Caucasoid looks because they kept a lot of slaves from Caucasus, North-Africa (Berbers), Greece, Anatolia, Iran etc during Umayyid and Abbasid periods from whom they produced children. In Islam, the children born from a female slave were free and were inheritors of the name and property of the person. They also Arabized non-Arab populations of North Africa and Syria.

Early Arabs who entered Spain, were called "Moors" which means dark-skinned. The same term was also used for black-Africans

Well Well well what a jewel of history you gave us... Irony ofc...

Arabs have Caucasus trait bc of slaves they kept??? What did you smoke sir? Expirated weed?
Arabs took Berbers/Greek/Anatolian as slaves???? another bad thing you got there
Moors meaning black skin??? I think you lost it...

Come on...

 

[Mian Babban]

Even the previous Emir does not look like that to me:

Yes they look North-Indians, and by saying that i am not insulting your people because North-Indians are considered good looking people with brown skins. In fact Punjabis and people of Himachal Pradesh are more good looking than the Arabs in your pictures

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Well Well well what a jewel of history you gave us... Irony ofc...

Arabs have Caucasus trait bc of slaves they kept??? What did you smoke sir? Expirated weed?
Arabs took Berbers/Greek/Anatolian as slaves???? another bad thing you got there
Moors meaning black skin??? I think you lost it...

Come on...

It's some butthurt Dravidian Pashtun troll that is obsessed about the 500 million Arabs. He is posting photos of Afro-Arabs and the Sultan of Oman (that is mixed with Zanzibari natives). Don't take him too seriously. Afro-Arabs are still better looking than his likes if you ask me.

Yes they looked North-Indians, and by saying that i am not insulting your people because North-Indians are considered good looking people with brown skins. In fact Punjabis and people of Himachal Pradesh are more good looking than the Arabs in your pictures

In a parallel universe Dravidian. In the real world your likes are banned from entering malls in Qatar (or used to be) because you facial features are easily spotted as being non-Arab and that's not a compliment. It puts you in the same bracket as Nepalis, Indians, Bangladeshis etc. Arabian beauty is famous worldwide and been the case for millennia. Reported by many various civilizations and nations. The beauty of ancient Arab queens like Sheba, Zenobia etc. is well-known in ancient sources.

 

[Mian Babban]

. Arabian beauty is famous worldwide and been the case for millennia. Reported by many various civilizations and nations.

Arabs were/are noted for some qualities (which were/are due to their Bedoin life style) but not for beauty. You are delusional.

If one goes through Arab histories, its obvious they did not consider themselves beautiful compared to others and for them Rumi (Greeks), Persians, Circassians etc were beautiful.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Arabs were/are noted for some qualities (which were/are due to their Bedoin life style) but not for beauty. You are delusional.

If one goes through Arab histories, its obvious they did not consider themselves beautiful compared to others and for them Rumi (Greeks), Persians, Circassians etc were beautiful.

Dravidian, your trolling is useless. Nobody takes its seriously.

Arabian beauty has been widely celebrated in ancient scriptures and historical documents. Arabs were never shy in boosting about their looks and beautiful olive skin. Numerous ancient Arab queens (some of the earliest recorded queens in history) such as Queen Sheba, Queen Zenobia and numerous others have been praised for their beauty throughout the ages.

In fact in the modern-day era an former Saudi Arabian princess was repeatedly considered as one of the most beautiful princesses alive:





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameera_al-Taweel

Yes, people who are related to Gypsies, famous for their hairy bodies, unibrow and giant noses (hence all the nose jobs) are indeed famous for their "good looks".

Circassian yes, but they have nothing to do with those people that you mentioned alongside with them. In fact their DNA (Y-DNA) is most similar to Arabs. Especially people of Dagestan.

And your nonsense that you have polluted this thread with is inaccurate as per descriptions of the looks of Prophet Muhammad (saws) and the Sahabah and famous Arab Islamic personalities.

European racialists:

Physical appearance
The Arabid race was distinguished from the West-Mediterranean race by some minor characteristic facial traits. These include almond-shaped eyes, very dark hair color, the Semitic smile (conditioned by unusually deep Fossa canina), untanned skin color tending to a pale olive, and often but not always a narrow or a broad aquiline nose.

This physical type had in earlier times a broader-formed Syrid subtype, which was found among the farmers of the Fertile Crescent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabid_race

 

[Mian Babban]

In fact in the modern-day era an former Saudi Arabian princess was repeatedly considered as one of the most beautiful princesses alive:





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameera_al-Taweel

She would be mistaken for an Indian......She has very Indian-ish facial features and complexion

And i am surprised you are making fun of noses of Persians....Its Arabs and other semetics who are stereotyped as having very big noses....you must have heard about the "Jewish nose"

 

[Saif al-Arab]

She would be mistaken for an Indian......She has very Indian-ish facial features and complexion

And i am surprised you are making fun of noses of Persians....Its Arabs and other semetics who are stereotyped as having very big noses....you must have heard about the "Jewish nose"

She has a beautiful Arabian/Semitic/Middle Eastern look. Nothing Indian about her the slightest. You should be familiar how your neighbors look like. After all you share a lot in common with them on all fronts, including genetics and appearance.

This is the average Indian/South Asian look:





The pure look:



Arabian/Arab women on the other hand are world famous for their beautiful big eyes:

No. Arabs have beautiful aquiline noses.

Nose jobs in Iran are an epidemic.



As for big noses, unibrow, hairiness, plastic operations, whitening creams etc. Persians are world famous for that. Tons of makeup and unnatural hair color as well.





https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gk7m8/shes-so-najoor-0000467-v21n10

As I said comparing yourself with Arabs on any front is a joke. This comparison is no different.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Arabs were/are noted for some qualities (which were/are due to their Bedoin life style) but not for beauty. You are delusional.

If one goes through Arab histories, its obvious they did not consider themselves beautiful compared to others and for them Rumi (Greeks), Persians, Circassians etc were beautiful.

He's Saudi.. a good representation is the Saudi military thread.

She has a beautiful Arabian/Semitic/Middle Eastern look. Nothing Indian about her the slightest. You should be familiar how your neighbors look like. After all you share a lot in common with them on all fronts, including genetics and appearance.

This is the average Indian/South Asian look:





The pure look:



Arabian/Arab women on the other hand are world famous for their beautiful big eyes:

No. Arabs have beautiful aquiline noses.

Nose jobs in Iran are an epidemic.



As for big noses, unibrow, hairiness, plastic operations, whitening creams etc. Persians are world famous for that. Tons of makeup and unnatural hair color as well.





https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gk7m8/shes-so-najoor-0000467-v21n10

As I said comparing yourself with Arabs on any front is a joke. This comparison is no different.

For us "north india" starts and ends with Panjab & IOK.

The indian chicks in your post, look like typical hindustani and one South Indian..

As for Iranian women, no doubt Iranian women are much more beautiful compared with GCC.

The only beautiful "arab" comes from Mediterranean states like Lebanon,Syria or from the Berbers/Maghrib.

I doubt they are genetically Arab or "najdi".. @Mian Babban


As for the Saudi royal family.:. Well known that they have married heavily with the Lebanese etc.