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KABUL — A suicide bomber struck an upmarket district of the Afghan capital Kabul on Tuesday near a hotel and guest house frequented by foreigners, killing eight people and wounding another 40, officials said.

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It was the latest in a string of attacks in Kabul blamed on the Taliban and came as President Hamid Karzai convened a flagship conference on corruption in another part of the city.

The attacker blew himself up outside the gate of the Heetal hotel in the Wazir Akbar Khan district, near a guest house and the home of Afghanistan's former first vice president, Ahmad Zia Massoud.

"All the doors of the taxi were blown open by the force of the blast and the car turned full circle because the force of the blast was so big," said witness Nanghirlay, 25, who was travelling two blocks away when the bomber struck.

The explosion partially brought down villas, engulfed a vehicle in flames, gouged out a large crater in the street where a woman staggered out with blood smeared across her face and a guard lay dead, AFP reporters said.

"Eight people have been killed. Four are women. Four others are male and 40 other people have been wounded. It was a suicide bombing," interior ministry spokesman Zamarai Bashary told AFP.

Men, women and children were among the wounded, officials said.

A foreigner was also killed, one government official said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to release the information.

Harjeet Singh, general manager of IT company IO Global Services, told AFP 40 Indians were staying in the guest house, including 20 from his company.

Five were wounded, including two IT workers, a cleaner, a cook and a guard, who were all Indians, he told AFP at the bomb site dressed in a red turban.

"We normally leave at 8:15 to 8:30 to go to our office. The injured are those staying at the guest house, they are all Indians," he said.

India is a huge investor in post-Taliban Afghanistan, where Indian films and music are hugely popular among certain groups.

Karzai strongly condemned the "terrorist attack" as "brutal, inhuman and un-Islamic" and ordered a swift investigation to hunt down the masterminds.

He told the anti-corruption conference, attended by the US ambassador, that two bodyguards of his former vice president were killed in the explosion.

It was not immediately clear if the bomber's target was the former vice president, the hotel or the guest house used by foreigners.


On October 28, the Taliban claimed responsibility for a gun and suicide attack on another guest house in a neighbouring district used by the United Nations, killing five UN staff.

The Indian embassy in Kabul has been bombed twice and the attack last year killing 60 people remains the deadliest attack on the Afghan capital.

The upmarket district of Wazir Akbar Khan is home to many foreign embassies and aid groups, as well as Afghan government officials.

"One of our guards was killed. The explosion happened down the road, close to our hotel. Not in our hotel," said Heetal finance manager Bejan Salehi.

The bomber struck shortly before 10:00 am (0630 GMT) as lawmakers, government officials and foreign ambassadors gathered for the conference on efforts to crack down on endemic corruption in Afghanistan.

Karzai, under pressure to form a transparent government after his August re-election was tainted by fraud, is trying to stitch together a cabinet accepted at home and abroad in a bid to end months of political paralysis.

Washington has warned Karzai to fight corruption or see his cabinet bypassed in favour of lower level officials in an effort to provide services as part of a new US war plan deploying 30,000 extra American troops to fight the Taliban.

Tuesday's conference was expected to discuss the creation of a special anti-corruption commission, courts and law enforcement bodies.

Kabul has been rocked by a rising number of suicide and rocket attacks with the Taliban-led insurgency at its deadliest in the eight years since US-led troops ousted the Islamist militia's regime.

In the eastern province of Paktya, a mine exploded Tuesday killing five people including a woman outside the offices of a private security company, provincial police chief Azizudin Wardak told AFP.
 
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IMO It doesn't look Indians were targeted. All eight killed were afghans, four of them women. Proves once again that ideologically Afghan and Pakistani Taliban are the same although organizationally they may be different.

Suicide Car Bomb Blast in Kabul

KABUL, Afghanistan — Hedyatullah Rahmani gathered himself from the force of the blast and raced two blocks to the scene of the suicide car bomb that struck central Kabul on Tuesday morning.

A victim of the bombing was carried outside the Heetal Hotel in Kabul, Afghanistan, on Tuesday.

He saw two men being burned, trapped inside a car. The driver thrust his hand out the window and was waving it frantically, said Mr. Rahmani, who with two other men pulled the driver from the car.

“We threw him in the ditch of water to kill the fire on his body,” Mr. Rahmani said. But the other passenger, he said, could not be rescued.

The blast killed at least eight people and wounded 40 more, the Afghan authorities said. Four women were among the dead, according to the Interior Ministry.

A spokesman for the Taliban, Zabihullah Mujahid, said in a telephone interview that he did not know whether the bomb was the work of the Taliban.

The explosion occurred just outside a hotel frequented by foreigners and several buildings owned by a former Afghan vice president, Ahmed Zia Massoud, who may have been the target. Mr. Massoud is the brother of the legendary guerrilla leader Ahmad Shah Massoud, who battled Soviet forces during the 1980s and was assassinated by a suicide bomber on Sept. 9, 2001.

The Afghan president, Hamid Karzai, said during a televised speech at a conference on corruption on Tuesday that two of Mr. Massoud’s bodyguards had been killed.

An aide said Mr. Massoud was unharmed, and that he believed the target may actually have been the Heetal Hotel, which is owned by relatives of Burhanuddin Rabbani, a former Afghan president and ex-militant leader.

Bodies of the dead and wounded were carried away by Afghan police officers and citizens who rushed to the scene. The blast shook buildings throughout the upscale neighborhood of Wazir Akbar Khan, home to many embassies and Western aid groups.

It was the deadliest attack in the capital in six weeks, when a Taliban assault on a guest house killed eight people, including five United Nations staff members. It also was the first significant attack in Kabul since President Karzai was sworn into office for a second term last month.

The bombing comes one day after 16 Afghan National Police officers were killed in separate attacks on two police checkpoints, one in northeastern Afghanistan and the other in Lashkar Gah, the capital of Helmand Province, in the south. The Interior Ministry reported that eight officers were killed in each attack.

Abdul Waheed Wafa contributed reporting from Kabul.
 
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IMO It doesn't look Indians were targeted. All eight killed were afghans, four of them women. Proves once again that ideologically Afghan and Pakistani Taliban are the same although organizationally they may be different.

I don't think so. The TTP specifically targets Pakistanis, but the Afghan Taliban target foreigners. This hotel catered mostly to foreigners.

If they wanted to kill Afghans, there are thousands of easier targets. Why not blow himself up in a street bazaar?
 
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Many of the TTP attacks are on PA/ISI/GHQ and other security forces, in the process if civilians get killed it doesn't matter.

Here again mostly locals were killed were they presumably were trying to kill the vice president on is also an Afghan.

On the whole, alot more Afghans (police , army civilians) have been killed than foreigners by Afghan Taliban. Similarly, a lot more Pakistanis (Security personnel and civilians) have been killed by TTP than foreigners.
 
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Many of the TTP attacks are on PA/ISI/GHQ and other security forces, in the process if civilians get killed it doesn't matter.

Here again mostly locals were killed were they presumably were trying to kill the vice president on is also an Afghan.

On the whole, alot more Afghans (police , army civilians) have been killed than foreigners by Afghan Taliban. Similarly, a lot more Pakistanis (Security personnel and civilians) have been killed by TTP than foreigners.

The attack in Lahore was nowhere near any military target. The TTP target police/army as well as civilians.

The Afghan Taliban claim not to target Afghan civilians specifically. The civilians only get killed when they happen to be around military or foreign targets. (I am talking about suicide attacks, not the acid throwing incidents, etc.) In fact, this is one of the big dilemmas for NATO in Afghanistan. They cannot claim to be defenders because the Afghan people do not feel threatened by the Taliban. They may not like the Taliban ideology, but they don't feel physically threatened.

It is the Americans/foreigners and their Afghan collaborators who need protection from Taliban attacks, so the Afghan population doesn't buy the "we are here to protect you" spiel from NATO. This is not my claim, this was the assessment by American journalists.
 
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Afghan Taliban claim not to target civilians? You seriously believe that? If PAkistanis' dont want the Taliban to rule them, why do you presume the Afghanis would want the same?

Btw about civilians being killed didnt' TTP claim the same as well? Hell even Al Qaeda said that they don't target civilians and that all these civilians bombings in markets is a CIA/ISI/RAW/MOSSAD conspiracy

If Pakistanis don't believe TTP claims about not targetting civilians, why should Afghanis believe the Taliban claims there?
 
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Afghan Taliban claim not to target civilians? You seriously believe that?

No, but this was an NBC reporter who made the claim that Afghans do not feel threatened by the Taliban, after having lived with them for a while.

Charlie Rose - A conversation with Richard Engel of NBC News

I don't know the full history of suicide attacks in Afghanistan, and many Afghan civilians have been killed in Taliban attacks, but it seems they always happen around foreigners or military targets. I don't know of any attacks like the Lahore market or others in Pakistan which specifically targetted civilians.

If PAkistanis' dont want the Taliban to rule them, why do you presume the Afghanis would want the same?

The Afghans (at least the urban ones) do not want to be ruled by the Taliban. As I said, they abhor their ideology but they do not feel physically threatened by them.
 
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In my opinion, anyone from outside afghanistan is an agressor for afghan talibans and they'd attack them sooner or later.

No one is so naive to understand that these foreigners are there to promote their natinal agenda, be it against afghanistan or pakistan.
 
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I don't think so. The TTP specifically targets Pakistanis, but the Afghan Taliban target foreigners. This hotel catered mostly to foreigners.

If they wanted to kill Afghans, there are thousands of easier targets. Why not blow himself up in a street bazaar?
Keep it simple friend.
'Both' TTP and Afghan Taliban(both are one and the same) kills those who oppose the implementation of their version of Islam.
 
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In my opinion, anyone from outside afghanistan is an agressor for afghan talibans and they'd attack them sooner or later.

No one is so naive to understand that these foreigners are there to promote their natinal agenda, be it against afghanistan or pakistan.


I dont think the Taliban have had any qualms about killing civilians, locals or foreigners. And this is applicable to the Talibans on both sides of the border.
 
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I think that given Pakistani paranoia about Indians in Afghanistan and the proven history (as far as the U.S. concern) about previous ISI attacks against Indian targets in Afghanistan that it is natural to assume Pakistani involvement in this and any future attacks against Indians in Afghanistan.

This will continue until Pakistan reverses itself and not only condemns such attacks but demonstrates willingness to work either parallel or in cooperation with India to build Afghanistan rather than ruin or dominate it through proxies.

That takes wise leadership and that is something that isn't happening, as demonstrated by the number of Pakistani ministers who scream "India did it, we have proof!" but never deliver evidence that can be challenged or validated, only messages of scapegoating and hatred.

No one is so naive to understand that these foreigners are there to promote their natinal agenda, be it against afghanistan or pakistan.
Why must it be "against" anybody? Many things the Afghan and Pakistani people say they hate in their lives - corruption, extremist religious rule, poverty, insecurity - are what the foreigners are trying to help the people combat.
 
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I think that given Pakistani paranoia about Indians in Afghanistan and the proven history (as far as the U.S. concern) about previous ISI attacks against Indian targets in Afghanistan that it is natural to assume Pakistani involvement in this and any future attacks against Indians in Afghanistan.

And what proven record are you pointing at? Do you have evidence to backup your claim?
 
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I think that given Pakistani paranoia about Indians in Afghanistan and the proven history (as far as the U.S. concern) about previous ISI attacks against Indian targets in Afghanistan that it is natural to assume Pakistani involvement in this and any future attacks against Indians in Afghanistan.

This will continue until Pakistan reverses itself and not only condemns such attacks but demonstrates willingness to work either parallel or in cooperation with India to build Afghanistan rather than ruin or dominate it through proxies.

That takes wise leadership and that is something that isn't happening, as demonstrated by the number of Pakistani ministers who scream "India did it, we have proof!" but never deliver evidence that can be challenged or validated, only messages of scapegoating and hatred.


Why must it be "against" anybody? Many things the Afghan and Pakistani people say they hate in their lives - corruption, extremist religious rule, poverty, insecurity - are what the foreigners are trying to help the people combat.
Why are your lips sealed when Lahore is bombed and Indian weapons are seized in Islamabad?
 
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I think that given Pakistani paranoia about Indians in Afghanistan and the proven history (as far as the U.S. concern) about previous ISI attacks against Indian targets in Afghanistan that it is natural to assume Pakistani involvement in this and any future attacks against Indians in Afghanistan.

This will continue until Pakistan reverses itself and not only condemns such attacks but demonstrates willingness to work either parallel or in cooperation with India to build Afghanistan rather than ruin or dominate it through proxies.

That takes wise leadership and that is something that isn't happening, as demonstrated by the number of Pakistani ministers who scream "India did it, we have proof!" but never deliver evidence that can be challenged or validated, only messages of scapegoating and hatred.


Why must it be "against" anybody? Many things the Afghan and Pakistani people say they hate in their lives - corruption, extremist religious rule, poverty, insecurity - are what the foreigners are trying to help the people combat.

I think you guys were convinced about Iraqi WMDs through similar wired logic.

BTW, What you would say about Indian weapons being used against Pakistanis? What would u say about Indian RDX captured in Karachi? What would you say about TTP getting weapons from US/NATO occupied Afghanistan?

U wanna be wise that's good but please be wise before lecturing others to be.
 
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And what proven record are you pointing at? Do you have evidence to backup your claim?
The U.S. very much wants to believe that the GoP isn't involved in terrorism. Yet U.S. officials are sadly convinced they have proof that the ISI was behind the bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul last year. So I don't feel the need for my government to make public its evidence. Indeed, I feel that for the U.S. or Britain or even India to prove such things publicly and conclusively is a last resort, for they would rather work with the civilian government than embarrass it publicly.
Why are your lips sealed when Lahore is bombed and Indian weapons are seized in Islamabad?
They are not sealed, I guess you just missed it: link

As I wrote before, whether Pakistanis believe India is behind anything or not, whether Indian or Chinese weapons are used or not, Pakistan was never afflicted by Muslims bombing Muslims in mosques until a full generation of extremists had been trained in Pakistani madrassas. The decision to divert funds from education and development to nuclear weapons allowed Gulf-funded schools to step in and train extremists and now threatens the state itself. So wouldn't the proper cure for Pakistan's troubles be to root out the extremist madrassas and fund proper schooling?
 
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