Suggestion for Pakistan-Turkey Nuclear Deterrence Command: A By-Product of Current Israil-Palestine War

[Dalit]

You on the other hand... you have big balls. It takes big balls to live comfortably in UK while your country is struggling.

Big hero this guy.



This is such a retarded scenario it doesn't need to be entertained.

But for your information wee have B61 nuclear bombs in İncirlik AFB that we share with the US.

These are not your nuclear bombs. They belong to the Americans.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

But for your information wee have B61 nuclear bombs in İncirlik AFB that we share with the US

And you're not able to use it without US/NATO permission on your enemies

 

[LegionnairE]

Don't think that Turkey has any rights or even has any say about the use of nuclear bombs installed in Turkish territories.

They are obviously not meant as a deterrent against Israel. The whole notion of Turkey, a nato member, fighting against Israel is absurd and yes the B61s can't be used without US permission.

And obviously any attack on Turkey not nuclear attack, any attack by a foreign country triggers NATO article 5. It means a declaration of war against the whole of NATO.



In such case Israel and the US would be at war. Just to point out the absurdity of this whole premise.

 

[Ghostkiller]

They are obviously not meant as a deterrent against Israel. The whole notion of Turkey, a nato member, fighting against Israel is absurd and yes the B61s can't be used without US permission.

I didn't mean that you gonna use them as a deterrent against Israel (Turkey will never fight Israel that is a fact and Erdogan is like a barking dog, he bark but never bite). I meant that you can't use them in generals because it belongs to the US only

 

[khansaheeb]

A famous Turkish strategic analyst, Ardan Zenturk, the editor-in-Chief of M5 (Turkey’s best and largest magazine on strategic and defense affairs), has some interesting observations and suggestions:

• The Israili Heritage Minister has publicly stated they would drop a nuke on Gaza if it continues like this. It shows the Israili fascist regime has no qualms to abundantly use nukes to obtain the fanatic religious objectives to realize the promised meta-physical “Greater Israil”.
• Now is the time to panic for the other ME countries. The Arab countries like the KSA, the UAE, Egypt, Jordan etc. now can clearly fathom themselves as the next “Gazas”. They have raised a hue and cry complaining to the Western overlords. However, at their hearts they know they’re no more than maggots in the eyes of the Western Imperialists.
• The Russians have taken quite a stand against Israil in this. They want an explanation for the “usage conditions” of their nukes from Israil.
• Some Turkish folks, especially the secular minded ones, might take some solace in the fact that Turkey is a member of the NATO. But, this membership is like a glass ceiling at the best and deception at the worst. In any case, if Israil indeed wants to drop a couple of nukes on Turkey nobody is there to resist it.
• Given the circumstances, the most viable option for Turkey is to set up a Pakistan-Turkey joint nuclear deterrence command. Although it might have almost no traction right now, who knows what the future might hold.

*My note: a moth-eaten Pakistan is better than no Pakistan. Eat grass but have the BOMB.

Pakistan should freely share Centrifuge and nuke technology with Iran and Turkey. In fact full Economic, military and scientific cooperation in all fields .

 

[LegionnairE]

I didn't mean that you gonna use them as a deterrent against Israel (Turkey will never fight Israel that is a fact and Erdogan is like a barking dog, he bark but never bite). I meant that you can't use them in generals because it belongs to the US only

We can use them but only with US permission.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

We can use them but only with US permission.

So you're not free to use them, its not a deterrence for turkey

 

[CriticalThinker02]

They are obviously not meant as a deterrent against Israel. The whole notion of Turkey, a nato member, fighting against Israel is absurd and yes the B61s can't be used without US permission.

And obviously any attack on Turkey not nuclear attack, any attack by a foreign country triggers NATO article 5. It means a declaration of war against the whole of NATO.



In such case Israel and the US would be at war. Just to point out the absurdity of this whole premise.

You are delusional if you actually think Turkey a Muslim country carrying the legacy of the Ottoman empire is part of Nato, it might be on paper but that paper would be scrapped within minutes the moment any true western country decides to have hostilities with Turkey whether Israel or anyother.

Turkish leaders were and still are foolish that they went for the European route instead of embracing who they were for a thousand years prior.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

They are obviously not meant as a deterrent against Israel. The whole notion of Turkey, a nato member, fighting against Israel is absurd and yes the B61s can't be used without US permission.

And obviously any attack on Turkey not nuclear attack, any attack by a foreign country triggers NATO article 5. It means a declaration of war against the whole of NATO.



In such case Israel and the US would be at war. Just to point out the absurdity of this whole premise.

Very farcical and ignorant understanding. Turkiye can be helped by NATO against a common foe... it used to be Soviet Union.

It will NOT receive much if any help against anyone.

Far from it, In fact Turkiye itself has used discretion even when other NATO states have fought against a common foe as wars of aggression.

Turkiye has more than just one handicap of Israel... it faces the same vis a vis Greece... other contradictions, where treaty states sanction each other... ban weapon sales, support on equipment or support one against the other. Ones aspiring to join, present another challenge... where you're not only committing to protect those, who otherwise want to actively, or wish to undermine you..., actively support or provide passive protection to armed factions. Others undermine the state apparatus by colluding to plug their own lackeys at positions of power.

Contradictions that undermine self rule or in case of Gaza ability to mobilize or maneuver.

 

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set up a Pakistan-Turkey joint nuclear deterrence command

lol....

No thanks.

 

[LegionnairE]

You are delusional if you actually think Turkey a Muslim country carrying the legacy of the Ottoman empire is part of Nato, it might be on paper but that paper would be scrapped within minutes the moment any true western country decides to have hostilities with Turkey whether Israel or anyother.

Turkish leaders were and still are foolish that they went for the European route instead of embracing who they were for a thousand years prior.

Very farcical and ignorant understanding. Turkiye can be helped by NATO against a common foe... it used to be Soviet Union.

It will NOT receive much if any help against anyone.

Far from it, In fact Turkiye itself has used discretion even when other NATO states have fought against a common foe as wars of aggression.

Turkiye has more than just one handicap of Israel... it faces the same vis a vis Greece... other contradictions, where treaty states sanction each other... ban weapon sales, support on equipment or support one against the other. Ones aspiring to join present another challenge... where you're not only committing to protect those who otherwise want to actively or wish to undermine you, actively support or passive protection to armed factions. Others undermine the state apparatus by colluding to plug their own lackeys at positions of power.

Contradictions that undermine self rule or in case of Gaza ability to mobilize or maneuver.

It's like trying to explain to a bunch of chimps that humans can't subsist on bananas alone

Turkey has been a member of NATO since 1952. Sweden is begging Turkey to join and Turkey says no.

It must be really fucking your 8. century minds that Turkey (a muslim country according to you) is not allowing Sweden to join NATO

 

[aziqbal]

You on the other hand... you have big balls. It takes big balls to live comfortably in UK while your country is struggling.

Big hero this guy.



This is such a retarded scenario it doesn't need to be entertained.

But for your information wee have B61 nuclear bombs in İncirlik AFB that we share with the US.

better than being a Zionist slave like you

stay a loser

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

It's like trying to explain to a bunch of chimps that humans can't subsist on bananas alone

Turkey has been a member of NATO since 1952. Sweden is begging Turkey to join and Turkey says no.

It must be really fucking your 8. century minds that Turkey (a muslim country according to you) is not allowing Sweden to join NATO

But, but we got nukes... Greece ally.
Me feel protected... Soviets coming.
French good... Azerbaycan bad.

Help Armenia or Azer?
Cyprus an issue, or not?
Israel good, Gaza bad.
Swede good‽ Kurds bad‽

We got incirlik, but being target of Russian first strike in case NATO triggering article 5, acceptable‽

No more F35...
Ah well, S-400 good!

Turkiye dürüst!

 

[LegionnairE]

better than being a Zionist slave like you

stay a loser

"Zionist slave loser" says the immigrant to the proud nationalist

We won't help palestine. cry more faggot.

 

[alphapak]

Being a member does not mean shit, Americans armed PKK against Türkiye and recently
they shot down a Turkish drone in Syria.