SU-57 and PAF | Opinions/Discussions

[StormBreaker]

Well, let me rephrase, Blk 4 is there for par or bettering what blk 70 can do. JF-17 is still a teenager .

Bro !!!

If we abandon F-16s in the next 10 years, it would be a blunder !!! All the experience of so many years and you trash it hopelessly !!!

Instead, we should keep on upgrading them and seeking more . F-16s are love

 

[Kabotar]

UAE never asked for it dude

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/22/us-...umors-of-potential-f-35-sales-to-the-uae.html

 

[mingle]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/22/us-...umors-of-potential-f-35-sales-to-the-uae.html

Rumours nothing more

 

[mingle]

Bro !!!

If we abandon F-16s in the next 10 years, it would be a blunder !!! All the experience of so many years and you trash it hopelessly !!!

Instead, we should keep on upgrading them and seeking more . F-16s are love

Pehla payar

 

[StormBreaker]

Pehla payar

Jisne kabhi dhoka ni dia !!!

Precious asset !!!

 

[aliyusuf]

Highlight the RCS part, that is the only reason why SU-35 is the King of all Flankers.

In my humble layman's understanding ... Su-35's Achilles heel is it's PESA radar. A PESA is not an LPI radar. An AESA is. The moment the Su-35 turns on it's radar ... like the Mechanically scanned radars of the previous generation ... it sends out a huge ... EM beacon outwards ... announcing to everyone scanning that here I am. Simply put the AESA masks its frequency by varying it across it's TRMs ... so it is difficult to signify it as a coherent target source. The Sino-Flankers are very close to RCS with the Su-35 but with an increase in the empty weight due to the additional RAM used. They are interested to find out how the Russians kept the empty weight down so much.

Also Sino-Flankers can carry & launch the PL-15 and PL-XX missiles which have AESA seekers. Passive sensors on the target platforms won't be able to detect that easily that a Radar Guided missile is approaching.

In my opinion the Sino-Flankers have a decided edge. There is a reason China bought only 24 Su-35.

 

[StormBreaker]

In my humble layman's understanding ... Su-35's Achilles heel is it's PESA radar. A PESA is not an LPI radar. An AESA is. The moment the Su-35 turns on it's radar ... like the Mechanically scanned radars of the previous generation ... it sends out a huge ... EM beacon outwards ... announcing to everyone scanning that here I am. Simply put the AESA masks its frequency by varying it across it's TRMs ... so it is difficult to signify it as a coherent target source. The Sino-Flankers are very close to RCS with the Su-35 but with an increase in the empty weight due to the additional RAM used. They are interested to find out how the Russians kept the empty weight down so much.

Also Sino-Flankers can carry & launch the PL-15 and PL-XX missiles which have AESA seekers. Passive sensors on the target platforms won't be able to detect that easily that a Radar Guided missile is approaching.

In my opinion the Sino-Flankers have a decided edge. There is a reason China bought only 24 Su-35.

That is more to do with China possessing some very high tech AAMs while Russia lacking...

 

[Ultima Thule]

Its better to get J-20 from China, as Chinese weapons & Aesa already integrated in it.

How many time i told you J-20 is not for export, not even for Pakistan, and J-10C also has latest AESA/Weapons in it

 

[StormBreaker]

How many time i told you J-20 is not for export, not even for Pakistan, and J-10C also has latest AESA/Weapons in it

Bro if the anti stealth radar can come to Pakistan then J-20 is NOTHING in front of it !!!

 

[aliyusuf]

That is more to do with China possessing some very high tech AAMs while Russia lacking...

It is the whole solution end to end that counts and helps in fighting. Those high tech missiles are based on tech that equips their Flanker's, J-20's and J-10C's AESA radars.

 

[LKJ86]

It has a huge inventory of Chinese weapons and wanted to integrate Chinese weapons on the 35s. Secondly PAF was impressed and wanted to integrate the Chinese AESA instead of the Russian PESA.

PLAAF can't do that, but maybe PAF can try...

 

[Ultima Thule]

Bro if the anti stealth radar can come to Pakistan then J-20 is NOTHING in front of it !!!

Bro bro most modern bi static and low frequency (anti Stealth) radars can DETECT i repeat ONLY DETECT stealth jets at certain angles, they are not trackable by these ANTI STEALTH radars hence can't get lock by your ANTI STEALTH RADARS

 

[StormBreaker]

Bro bro most modern bi static and low frequency (anti Stealth) radars can DETECT i repeat ONLY DETECT stealth jets at certain angles, they are not trackable by these ANTI STEALTH radars hence can't get lock by your ANTI STEALTH RADARS

Tracking is very much hard or impossible at the moment as luck playes and with a support of maths !!!

Likh kar rakh lo, jahan China massive economic investment karke apne assets banara hai, one day, they will themselves offer us J-20s !!!

They know how trustable we are !!!

 

[Ultima Thule]

Tracking is very much hard or impossible at the moment as luck playes and with a support of maths !!!

Likh kar rakh lo, jahan China massive economic investment karke apne assets banara hai, one day, they will themselves offer us J-20s !!!

They know how trustable we are !!!

May be after their 6th gen jet ready for production then they will offered us J-20 after 2030/2035

 

[StormBreaker]

PLAAF can't do that, but maybe PAF can try...

They probably tried and failed !!!
Russians are stupid to prevent the integration of chinese systems on their flankers