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Su-30MK2 vs. F-18 Super Hornet: What is the best?
Su-30MK2 vs. F-18 Super Hornet: What is the best?
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F-18 a war proven.having AESA operational.
At present F-18SH will beat Su 30,
Su 40's a overrated figher without any real combat experiance..they are just over rated
At present F-18SH will beat Su 30,
Su 40's a overrated figher without any real combat experiance..they are just over rated
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Su-30MK2
Su-30MK2 multi-role fighter is designed to gain air superiority through killing hostile manned and unmanned aircraft with guided missiles in medium-range engagements and dogfights, and surface (ground and sea) targets destroying with all types of weapon, first of all with high precision weapon in individual and group operations in all-weather conditions. The aircraft can be used for training flying personnel to hone their flying and fighting skills.
The back-seater reduces the pilot's workload in long-range PGM encounters, in nighttime operations and on protracted missions with in-flight refuelling.
The main features of the Su-30MK2 fighter are the following:
An improved fire control system boasting enhanced surface-target capabilities;
An advanced cockpit management system
An improved navigation and communications suite
More sophisticated self-defense electronic countermeasures (ECM) suite
An expanded air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons suite with the ordnance mounted externally on 12 hardpoints
An in-flight refueling system
Reinforced airframe and landing gear provide for the aircraft operation with max combat load and fuel capacity with take-off weight up to 38 tones.
The fire control system of Su-30MK2 provides for detection, tracking and hitting by onboard weapons aerial and surface targets round the clock and in any weather.
The fire control system comprises two major subsystems:
fire control subsystem for air-to-air weapon includes radar sighting system, optronic sight system, and head-up display system;
fire control subsystem for air-to-surface weapon provides for the use of a wide spectrum of air-to-surface high-precision weapons, and for the indication of targets designation, flight and navigation data on four 4-х multifunction displays located on the cockpits’ instrument panels.
The mainstay of the cockpit management system are four colour multifunction liquid crystal displays (LCD) and head up-display (in the fore cockpit only). These displays show all required digital and visual target designation, flight and navigation data as well as data on the aircraft systems status. Along with the multifunction LCDs, the instrument panel houses traditional electromechanical instruments, which act mostly as backups.
The radar used on Su-30MK2 in the air-to-air engagement ensures the following:
Searching for aerial targets
Detected targets identification
Attacking the targets with medium- and short-range missiles featuring different guidance
Searching for, locking on and tracking a visual target in dogfights.
In the air-to-surface mode, the radar ensures the following:
All-weather acquisition and positioning of radio-contrast surface targets;
surface targets designation data supply to provide the Kh-31A, Kh-35E, and Kh-59MK air-to-ship missiles application.
Optical-electronic sighting system comprising the Optical location station and Helmet-mounted target designation system (HMS).
The Optical location station (OLS) of Su-30MK2 is a combination of an infrared search and track system (IRST) and a laser rangefinder/target designator .
It is designed to track aerial targets both in the front and rear hemispheres using their infrared signature. It also can be used for the laser ranging of aerial and surface targets as well as for illuminating surface targets by the laser beam for air-to-surface missiles with semi-active laser homing heads application.
The Su-30MK2 weapon suite includes the built-in GSh-301 30-mm automatic single-barrel high-rate-of-fire cannon with ammunition load of 150 rounds, missiles, rockets and bombs mounted externally on 12 hardpoints under wings and fuselage.
The air-to-air weapon suite includes medium-range missiles of the R-27 type – R-27T1, R-27ET1 heat-seeking missiles, R-27R1, R-27ER1 semi-active radar-homing missiles, R-27P1 and R-27EP1 missiles; RVV-AE medium-range active radar-homing missiles; and R-73E short-range heat-seeking missiles.
The Su-30MK2 fighter has wide range of guided and unguided weapons used to destroy surface targets.
The air-to-surface guided weapon of the Su-30MK2 fighter consists of the Kh-59ME, Kh-35E and Kh-59MK missiles; the Kh-31A medium-range high-speed anti-ship active radar-homing missiles; the Kh-31P medium-range antiradar passive radar-homing missiles; Kh-29T, Kh-29TE TV-homing missiles or Kh-29L laser-homing short-range missiles; KAB-1500Kr TV-homing bomb and KAB-500Kr (KAB-500-OD) guided bombs.
The unguided air-to-surface weapons include bombs of 500-kg, 250-kg, and 100-kg caliber, cluster bombs, incendiary tanks, and S-8, S-13, and S-25-OFM rockets as well.
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Su-30MK2 multi-role fighter is designed to gain air superiority through killing hostile manned and unmanned aircraft with guided missiles in medium-range engagements and dogfights, and surface (ground and sea) targets destroying with all types of weapon, first of all with high precision weapon in individual and group operations in all-weather conditions. The aircraft can be used for training flying personnel to hone their flying and fighting skills.
The back-seater reduces the pilot's workload in long-range PGM encounters, in nighttime operations and on protracted missions with in-flight refuelling.
The main features of the Su-30MK2 fighter are the following:
An improved fire control system boasting enhanced surface-target capabilities;
An advanced cockpit management system
An improved navigation and communications suite
More sophisticated self-defense electronic countermeasures (ECM) suite
An expanded air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons suite with the ordnance mounted externally on 12 hardpoints
An in-flight refueling system
Reinforced airframe and landing gear provide for the aircraft operation with max combat load and fuel capacity with take-off weight up to 38 tones.
The fire control system of Su-30MK2 provides for detection, tracking and hitting by onboard weapons aerial and surface targets round the clock and in any weather.
The fire control system comprises two major subsystems:
fire control subsystem for air-to-air weapon includes radar sighting system, optronic sight system, and head-up display system;
fire control subsystem for air-to-surface weapon provides for the use of a wide spectrum of air-to-surface high-precision weapons, and for the indication of targets designation, flight and navigation data on four 4-х multifunction displays located on the cockpits’ instrument panels.
The mainstay of the cockpit management system are four colour multifunction liquid crystal displays (LCD) and head up-display (in the fore cockpit only). These displays show all required digital and visual target designation, flight and navigation data as well as data on the aircraft systems status. Along with the multifunction LCDs, the instrument panel houses traditional electromechanical instruments, which act mostly as backups.
The radar used on Su-30MK2 in the air-to-air engagement ensures the following:
Searching for aerial targets
Detected targets identification
Attacking the targets with medium- and short-range missiles featuring different guidance
Searching for, locking on and tracking a visual target in dogfights.
In the air-to-surface mode, the radar ensures the following:
All-weather acquisition and positioning of radio-contrast surface targets;
surface targets designation data supply to provide the Kh-31A, Kh-35E, and Kh-59MK air-to-ship missiles application.
Optical-electronic sighting system comprising the Optical location station and Helmet-mounted target designation system (HMS).
The Optical location station (OLS) of Su-30MK2 is a combination of an infrared search and track system (IRST) and a laser rangefinder/target designator .
It is designed to track aerial targets both in the front and rear hemispheres using their infrared signature. It also can be used for the laser ranging of aerial and surface targets as well as for illuminating surface targets by the laser beam for air-to-surface missiles with semi-active laser homing heads application.
The Su-30MK2 weapon suite includes the built-in GSh-301 30-mm automatic single-barrel high-rate-of-fire cannon with ammunition load of 150 rounds, missiles, rockets and bombs mounted externally on 12 hardpoints under wings and fuselage.
The air-to-air weapon suite includes medium-range missiles of the R-27 type – R-27T1, R-27ET1 heat-seeking missiles, R-27R1, R-27ER1 semi-active radar-homing missiles, R-27P1 and R-27EP1 missiles; RVV-AE medium-range active radar-homing missiles; and R-73E short-range heat-seeking missiles.
The Su-30MK2 fighter has wide range of guided and unguided weapons used to destroy surface targets.
The air-to-surface guided weapon of the Su-30MK2 fighter consists of the Kh-59ME, Kh-35E and Kh-59MK missiles; the Kh-31A medium-range high-speed anti-ship active radar-homing missiles; the Kh-31P medium-range antiradar passive radar-homing missiles; Kh-29T, Kh-29TE TV-homing missiles or Kh-29L laser-homing short-range missiles; KAB-1500Kr TV-homing bomb and KAB-500Kr (KAB-500-OD) guided bombs.
The unguided air-to-surface weapons include bombs of 500-kg, 250-kg, and 100-kg caliber, cluster bombs, incendiary tanks, and S-8, S-13, and S-25-OFM rockets as well.
KNAAPO- Production - Military aviation - Su-30MK2
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Its like asking what is better, a car or a bike.
Depends on the role.
Su30 is a great fighter with raw power, F-18 is a smart fighter with high tech features.
Both will detect each other from a large distance, and both will have good BVR weapons. Where Su30 trumps the F-18 in maneuverability, the F-18 makes up for it using the excellent avionics.
1 on 1, it would be a really interesting combat. Su30 will probably take the crown, but with awacs, smart data sharing, data links, situational awareness, F-18 will take down the Su30.
So they are almost equal, and it all boils down to the pilot.
Depends on the role.
Su30 is a great fighter with raw power, F-18 is a smart fighter with high tech features.
Both will detect each other from a large distance, and both will have good BVR weapons. Where Su30 trumps the F-18 in maneuverability, the F-18 makes up for it using the excellent avionics.
1 on 1, it would be a really interesting combat. Su30 will probably take the crown, but with awacs, smart data sharing, data links, situational awareness, F-18 will take down the Su30.
So they are almost equal, and it all boils down to the pilot.
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F-18 Super Hornet
F-18 Super Hornet is a multirole fighter aircraft. The Super Hornet has an internal 20 mm gun and can carry air-to-air missiles and air-to-surface weapons. Additional fuel can be carried with up to five external fuel tanks and the aircraft can be configured as an airborne tanker by adding an external air refueling system.
The Super Hornet is a larger and more advanced variant of the F/A-18C/D Hornet. An early version was marketed by McDonnell Douglas as Hornet 2000 in the 1980s. The Hornet 2000 concept was an advanced version of the F/A-18 with a larger wing and a longer fuselage to carry more fuel and more powerful engines.
Boeing has offered a "International Super Hornet Roadmap" which includes:
Conformal fuel tanks
Enhanced Performance Engines
Spherical missile / laser warning
Enclosed weapons pod
Next-generation cockpit
Internal Infra-Red Search & Track (IRST)
It is about 20% larger, 7,000 lb (3,200 kg) heavier empty, and 15,000 lb (6,800 kg) heavier at maximum weight than the original Hornet. The Super Hornet carries 33% more internal fuel, increasing mission range by 41% and endurance by 50% over the "Legacy" Hornet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_F/A-18E/F_Super_Hornet
F-18 Super Hornet is a multirole fighter aircraft. The Super Hornet has an internal 20 mm gun and can carry air-to-air missiles and air-to-surface weapons. Additional fuel can be carried with up to five external fuel tanks and the aircraft can be configured as an airborne tanker by adding an external air refueling system.
The Super Hornet is a larger and more advanced variant of the F/A-18C/D Hornet. An early version was marketed by McDonnell Douglas as Hornet 2000 in the 1980s. The Hornet 2000 concept was an advanced version of the F/A-18 with a larger wing and a longer fuselage to carry more fuel and more powerful engines.
Boeing has offered a "International Super Hornet Roadmap" which includes:
Conformal fuel tanks
Enhanced Performance Engines
Spherical missile / laser warning
Enclosed weapons pod
Next-generation cockpit
Internal Infra-Red Search & Track (IRST)
It is about 20% larger, 7,000 lb (3,200 kg) heavier empty, and 15,000 lb (6,800 kg) heavier at maximum weight than the original Hornet. The Super Hornet carries 33% more internal fuel, increasing mission range by 41% and endurance by 50% over the "Legacy" Hornet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_F/A-18E/F_Super_Hornet
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I hope IAF will get the Superhornet!!!!!
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The Mk2 and F-18, both will detect each other at almost the same distance. Both have weapons that can only be fired within 60 kms to be effective. So they are pretty even there. The result depends on countermeasures, maneuverability, and no. of missiles.
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the Flanker in all current variants kinematically outclasses the Super Hornet in all high performance flight regimes. The only near term advantage the latest Super Hornets have over legacy Flanker variants is in the APG-79 AESA and radar signature reduction features, an advantage which will not last long given highly active ongoing development effort in these areas. The supercruising Al-41F engine will further widen the performance gap in favour of the Flanker. What this means is that post 2010 the Super Hornet is uncompetitive against advanced Flankers in BVR combat, as it is now uncompetitive in close combat.
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These are CRITICAL features.
All Su-37 versions including most advanced S-35 have huge non canted tails and open engine blades. I dont see any serious RCS reduiction. AESA maybe installed in future, but we are talking about present now.
Hornet is extremelly maneuverable aircraft (see Blue Angels) and with JHMCS its not that important.
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fact is.. superhornets are no match anymore... they are handy to have to keep up numbers, but the latest planes being made by china and russia, crap all over it in almost every aspect
thats why australia is upgrading to the f-35
we are going to disband our f-111's and have 100 f-35 and slowly get rid of the f-18 superhornets
thats why australia is upgrading to the f-35
we are going to disband our f-111's and have 100 f-35 and slowly get rid of the f-18 superhornets
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Well why worry? No country really poses a threat to you guys so f-35s or not you guys wont be any better or any worse. T-50 and J-20 will in the near future become more superior than any western fighter (5th gen). IF australia was smart they would tell the US to back off and opt for russian and asian tech.
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reaaaally??
y could of sed that in ww2 then the japanese invaded
right above us, there is indonesia, they have a army of 400+ thousand soldiers, they are bolstering their air force in a big way... if they do and we dont, they will have air superiority in the region, currently we do
indonesia teaches their kids in school, that australia belongs to them, even though they have never settled here or anything
relations are improving between our countrys... but in the end, they are a muslim country with th e believe that they own our country
china is also a threat... and even though we stand no chance against china alone, at least on our own shores, we can hold our own
y could of sed that in ww2 then the japanese invaded
right above us, there is indonesia, they have a army of 400+ thousand soldiers, they are bolstering their air force in a big way... if they do and we dont, they will have air superiority in the region, currently we do
indonesia teaches their kids in school, that australia belongs to them, even though they have never settled here or anything
relations are improving between our countrys... but in the end, they are a muslim country with th e believe that they own our country
china is also a threat... and even though we stand no chance against china alone, at least on our own shores, we can hold our own
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