Stunning new Picture pf Tejas with full load and fuel tanks

[hit&run&hitagain]

How many MKIs can survive a squadron of J-20s?

 

[noksss]

2 Short range missiles
2 dud bombs
2 fuel tanks

Totally 'stunning'

Very true man for anything to be called even good it should atleast have

23 Short range missiles
22 dud bombs
21 fuel tanks

 

[Han Patriot]

Poor thing, all you can do is pretend to laugh.

 

[seesonic]

Level of Comments from Pakistanis Prove the point of Jealousy....

Anywase, who cares --- a Dam.
Khane to Paise nahi ---- Hum ATOMIC qUVAAT Hain

Pakistanis are of such Poor Stature that they cannt survive on any Reputed International Forum.

First understand design, testing, model testing, development other than nut bold and paint job.

Like jf17, India has already done nut bolt job with mig 21, Su 30 mki, Jaguar, etc etc... But India didn't say, our developed aircraft's.

Till now, pakistan has not designed any trainer aircraft or fighter aircraft.

A lot of Pakistanis are trashing the Tejas. Seem some people need a serving of humble pie. Let me remind those members that Pakistan operates the JF-17. It's a budget aircraft with limited capabilities.

The Pakistanis bashing the Tejas have no room to talk. It's amazing how many Pakistanis think that the JF-17 can somehow match the MKI or even the Rafale. Tejas and JF-17 are in the same ballpark, both aircraft have poor range and payload, neither are will ever have favorable kill ratio against more mature designs.

Alright guys. Let us know again when TEJAS been lands itself an export customer. If any. lol

Just numbers since JF was inducted in 2009 and later on it was modified. IAF wants complete product.

Must watch

The photo of 'Tejas' on a truck made infamous by Pakistanis is actually just a mock up made for parade. Not a real air frame.
I wouldn't expect Pakistanis to realise this considering their background in designing basically nothing and their familiarity with inferior air frames such as FC1 , but I hope you realise this now.

Also, we could have easily inducted more than 100 Tejas by now, but we chose to have a better product instead of having an obsolete fleet just for the sake of bragging on forums.

Totally I agreed on this point, I don't want a waste aircraft to just produce for quantity but not with quality

IAF doesnt need the TEJAS because it has better planes in its arsenal such as SU30

Its somewhat funny that an air force would buy planes just for the sake of bragging, i guess only indians would think this way as it might really be a thing for indians

Well IAF likes good quality aircraft has good track record when its comes to plane maintenance and pilot competence right?

 

[Gurjot.S]

Alright guys. Let us know again when TEJAS been lands itself an export customer. If any. lol







IAF doesnt need the TEJAS because it has better planes in its arsenal such as SU30

Its somewhat funny that an air force would buy planes just for the sake of bragging, i guess only indians would think this way as it might really be a thing for indians

Well IAF likes good quality aircraft has good track record when its comes to plane maintenance and pilot competence right?

Wrong.. its all about dedicated role for A/C and second reason is bureaucracy.
IAF has kept changing its demands wrt Tejas.

 

[seesonic]

Wrong.. its all about dedicated role for A/C and second reason is bureaucracy.
IAF has kept changing its demands wrt Tejas.

There is a huge difference between a complete product and an irrelevant product

So which one is it? Complete, quality or relevant?

Seems like TEJAS fits none of the above.

 

[Gurjot.S]

There is a huge difference between a complete product and an irrelevant product

So which one is it? Complete, quality or relevant?

Seems like TEJAS fits none of the above.

what do mean by complete ? You cant make tejas a bomb truck. It has its dedicated role which was to replace migs.
It cant play the role of MMRCA's or heavy class fighters like su-30's.

 

[seesonic]

what do mean by complete ? You cant make tejas a bomb truck. It has its dedicated role which was to replace migs.
It cant play the role of MMRCA's or heavy class fighters like su-30's.

You claimed that the slow development of TEJAS is due to IAF wanting a "complete" product.

You should be the one telling us what you meant by "complete".

 

[Talon]

Just numbers since JF was inducted in 2009 and later on it was modified. IAF wants complete product.

Must watch

The video shows participation in only one exercise that too within the AF...JF17 has participated at multiple times in multiple exercies with multiple airforces.
Also video shows only one international partcipation in an airshow...again JF17 has participated in multiple airshows and secured deals.
Night trials?..JF17 flies proper night missions not trials.

So yeah not just numbers.

The photo of 'Tejas' on a truck made infamous by Pakistanis is actually just a mock up made for parade. Not a real air frame.
I wouldn't expect Pakistanis to realise this considering their background in designing basically nothing and their familiarity with inferior air frames such as FC1 , but I hope you realise this now.

Also, we could have easily inducted more than 100 Tejas by now, but we chose to have a better product instead of having an obsolete fleet just for the sake of bragging on forums.

Aircrafts are made to fly and flypasts are to impress the audience...u cant impress the audience when the aircraft is on a truck be it a real one or a mock.

yes , but gadha to gadha hi rahega , fir eek ho ya 100 , a single farmer can control all of them .

U must be a close friend of KAMLESH.

 

[KapitaanAli]

There's nothing more comical than Indians descending on Pakistani forums and box above their weight.
At some point, a mock up of the Tejas may have been displayed but hasn't been always the case since until last year, the Indian MOD didn't have the confidence to let any single engine fighter do a simple flypast over the venue, in the past even the MiG-21 appeared on a trailer. As for your own pathetic practice of preferring to call it FC-1, well i suggest you ask your at least one SU-30 pilot as how inferior was the JF-17 during their confrontation in 2016.
And as far as your brilliant mind goes into designing of Tejas, well i guess you need some history lesson to know you are no any better than who you mock to feel good.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/jan/13nad.htm

Indian policy was to never fly single engine fighters in parades for safety reasons.
Until Tejas. So you're actually praising Tejas for its remarkable safety and IAF's confidence in it.

As for you being happy about the supposed interception of MKI by JF17, I suggest you to be not.
Provocative flights are done to acquire data of the adversary.
Rest assured, JF17 is an open book to IAF now because of that interception.
Not that it was a threat anyway. But as a professional air force, we must acquire data.

Bro... building wings and the rest are not something difficult.. but its good to know 58% has being build within

It's 58% of the airframe.
Not 58% of the aircraft.
But I don't mock them for it. Pakistan will obviously keep improving in R&D.
Just give a reality check to annoying fanboys.

 

[Imran Khan]

very poor load if its full load

 

[Ultima Thule]

It doesn't called joint venture after aircraft is already tested and developed by a country. Than after technology of transfer if you make any part of aircraft.

India does make wings, fuselage and all unit for Dornier 228 aircraft, but it doesn't mean that Dornier is belonging to India.

Also, India contribute for Su30mki for subsystems like onboard computer etc etc ..... But it also doesn't meant that Su30mki is belong to India

HAl has history to manufacturer parts for Boeing, Airbus SaS etc...

Its a joint venture project dude Pakistan is manufacturing parts from right from beginning from the start of project and we are partially manufacturing it 58% at home including wings, radomes and vertical and horizontal tail surfaces and some of its avionics and by the way tell me which parts of Boeing and Airbus you're manufacturing at home can you tell me

A lot of Pakistanis are trashing the Tejas. Seem some people need a serving of humble pie. Let me remind those members that Pakistan operates the JF-17. It's a budget aircraft with limited capabilities.

The Pakistanis bashing the Tejas have no room to talk. It's amazing how many Pakistanis think that the JF-17 can somehow match the MKI or even the Rafale. Tejas and JF-17 are in the same ballpark, both aircraft have poor range and payload, neither are will ever have favorable kill ratio against more mature designs.

Sir we we are not compare JF to MKI or RAFALE its a Indian habits to compare tej@$$ to compare it with f22 j20 and pakfa jets

Calling Tejas a failure by few Pakistani and Chini kids is actually a good thing.

More this kind of clownish propaganda should get into their Airforce leadership as well. I hope their airforce thinks the same.

I will thank members if they can post same kind of comments made by PAF against Tejas.

First make your tej@$$ your indigenous product then we talk about it

 

[Trisonics]

by the way tell me which parts of Boeing and Airbus you're manufacturing at home can you tell me

• Recently Boeing formed a joint venture with Tata Advanced Systems Limited (TASL) to collaborate in aerospace and defense manufacturing and potential integrated systems development opportunities, including unmanned aerial vehicles.
  
• Dynamatic Technologies and Boeing inaugurated a plant to manufacture critical parts for the Chinook Heavy Lift Helicopters. In a state-of-the-art facility with TAL Manufacturing Solutions Ltd., Boeing supports manufacture of complex floor beams for the Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner, one of the most advanced airplanes in the world. TAL also makes ground support equipment for the C-17.
  
• Dynamatic Technologies and Tata Advanced Materials Limited (TAML) have delivered P-8I power and mission equipment cabinets, and TAML is on contract to provide P-8I auxiliary power unit door fairings and composite tailcones for the P-8I. Avantel has delivered the mobile satellite systems for the P-8I and Maini. Hyderabad-based Cyient (formerly Infotech) has supported a number of critical design-engineering projects for Boeing airplanes, and currently provides design and stress support on the 747-8 Freighter and the 787-8 and 787-9.
  
• Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) has delivered the Indian-designed Data Link II for the P-8I. Data Link II is a communications system that enables exchange of tactical data and messages among the Indian Navy aircraft, ships and shore establishments. BEL has also delivered the identification friend-or-foe interrogator, a battle management system that enables the aircraft to distinguish friendly aircraft and forces. Finally, BEL is on contract to provide F/A-18 flight deck cockpit panels. Electronics Corporation of India (ECIL) has provided the speech secrecy systems for the P-8I.
  
• Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) was the single-source producer of 757 overwing exit doors. HAL has also manufactured the 777 uplock boxes, F/A-18 gun bay doors, F/A-18 wire harnesses, P-8I weapons bay doors, and P-8I identification friend-or-foe transponders.
  
• Since 1997, Boeing has worked with India’s premier software development companies—including HCL, Infosys, Wipro and Tata Consultancy Services (TCS)—on several projects related to systems re-engineering and development, web enabling, e-business applications and long-term maintenance. Beyond direct work placement, Boeing collaborates with Indian industrial suppliers on lean manufacturing techniques, on program management and supplier management best practices, and in specialized trainings as part of its drive to bring the best of Boeing to India.
  
• In 2005, Boeing entered into a strategic research partnership with IISc Bangalore. The Boeing–IISc partnership focuses on research in materials and sciences for structural alloys, smart materials and structures, process modeling and simulation. This has contributed to aerospace innovation and advancement of aircraft design capabilities. IISc is one of only 10 universities worldwide that has such a special relationship with Boeing.
  
• IISc involving other industry partners HCL Technologies and Wipro. This consortium has conducted research and codeveloped technologies related to wireless aerospace networks. This involved regular interaction between researchers in India and Boeing experts in the United States and has resulted in several doctorate theses and a number of research reports.
• The work at NCAIR has led to 20 patents and technology breakthroughs and over 30 specialists have been trained and developed by the NCAIR. Key areas of research for NCAIR include Modeling & Simulation, where the researchers have generated new insights on methods to improve efficiency of machining titanium and aluminum alloys. Recently NCAIR inaugurated an Advanced Machining Excellence Cell on its campus.
  
  Both NCAIR and ANRC have proven their worth in using technology to spur entrepreneurship and innovation in India’s aerospace industry to encourage its start-up culture.
  http://www.boeing.co.in/boeing-in-india/about-boeing-in-india.page

NOW AIRBUS

• Today, we work with over 45 Indian suppliers, both publicly and privately owned, who employ over 6,000 people on our projects. These suppliers provide engineering & IT services, aero-structures, materials and cabins for several of our leading platforms.
  
• 
• The Airbus engineering facility in Bengaluru employs around 400 engineers who focus on core engineering in areas such as:
  
  • Structural analysis
  • Computational fluid dynamics
  • Avionics software design and testing
  • System simulation
  • Digital mock-ups and system installation
  • 
    
  • 
    http://www.airbus.com/company/worldwide-presence/india.html
  
  
  
  
• Airbus Helicopters has awarded a contract to Mahindra Aerostructures to make airframe parts for the AS565 MBe Panther. These parts will be produced at the Mahindra facility in Bengaluru. They will be shipped directly to the Airbus Helicopter production line in Marignane, France where they will be integrated with the rest of the airframe assembly and will form a critical part of the Panthers sold worldwide.
  
  The contract positions Mahindra Aerostructures as the first Indian company to receive a
  direct manufacturing contract from Airbus Helicopters as a Tier 1 supplier. Mahindra
  Aerostructures will gradually emerge as the global single source supplier to Airbus
  Helicopters for these parts. This work package is the first amongst a series of work packages which would embed Mahindra Group firmly in the Airbus Helicopters’ global supply chain and bind the two companies in a long-term ‘Make in India’ partnership.
  
  “We are playing an active role in the development of a helicopter-focused Indian industrial eco-system, and are embedding Indian suppliers into our global supply chain,” said Fabrice Cagnat, Director - Make in India, Airbus Helicopters. “The contract will allow us to qualify Mahindra Aerostructures as a Tier 1 supplier, establish a manufacturing relationship with them on the Panther, and also lay the ground work for a rapid acceleration in terms of industrializing production in India, in case we are selected for the Naval Utility Helicopter programme,” he added.
  
  “We believe this manufacturing relationship will allow us to demonstrate the quality and
  competitiveness of Mahindra Aerostructures to Airbus Helicopters. We are already
  committed to become a trusted partner and supplier to the Airbus Group for airframe parts and assemblies. This contract with Airbus Helicopters signals our further commitment to work with them to develop a robust Indian ecosystem for both design and build capabilities in aerospace,” said Arvind Mehra, Executive Director & CEO, Mahindra Aerospace.
  
  As announced earlier, Airbus Helicopters and Mahindra Defence are in the process of
  forming a joint venture to target India’s military helicopter programmes such as the Naval Utility Helicopter, the Naval Multi-Role Helicopter and the Reconnaissance and Surveillance Helicopter. The AS565 MBe Panther is competing for the Naval Utility Helicopter programme. In case the Indian Government selects the Panther, Airbus Helicopters will establish India as a global hub for Panther production in partnership with Mahindra Defence.
  
• http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/pres...helicopters-as565-mbe-panther-rotorcraft.html

Its a joint venture project dude Pakistan is manufacturing parts from right from beginning from the start of project and we are partially manufacturing it 58% at home including wings, radomes and vertical and horizontal tail surfaces and some of its avionics and by the way tell me which parts of Boeing and Airbus you're manufacturing at home can you tell me

We do all of the above including integrating our own and other imported components for our MKIs.
Please stop comparing the JF-17 Program to the LCA. With LCA we design, test, manufacture while you assemble the JF17. There are both not equal!!!

 

[WhyCry]

Good Progress

 

[MimophantSlayer]

It does not work like that.



Politicians keep funding it to keep the workers and unions happy for votes.



IAF wants to demonstrate to public that they are not anti-indigenous products so keep supporting the project even though they know that it would never see the light.



HAL/ADA keep coming up new delivery dates every year to request more funds.



It has become a political hot potato no one wants to touch even though everyone involved knows that it will never be inducted.

Tejas has started induction since 2016, SP 7 flew not even a month ago, new production facilities are being constructed and over 1331 crore is being invested to scale up the production of Tejas to 16 a year.

Maybe you should read a news first whenever you are in the Indian defence section and not just go straight to troll in the nearest thread you see.

We are manufacturing 58% at home including wings radome vertical horizontal tail surfaces and some of its avionics rest is China's responsibility, India have different approach for Tejas as compare to Pakistan's JF you want complete finished product devloped prior to induction to IAF but i have sorry to say lots equipment in tejas is foreign based including engine, fly by wire tech,radar avionics and more and it is not your
indigenous product

Not this again, 58% of the airframe of JF 17 and not the whole thing.
Also, PAC "holds the co production rights" of the airframe, heavens only know if you lot actually co produce.

well i suggest you ask your at least one SU-30 pilot as how inferior was the JF-17 during their confrontation in 2016.

Arrey windpasser janaab, yeh khyali pulao JF17 threads mey pakaana, not everyone has the taste for imaginary bs.

Seriously, you are famous for your unconfirmed nonsense you peddle from your oh so veritable "sources".

Like pakistan wouldn't have blared it to the pak populace if such a confrontation ever occurred. Oh the bravery.

But sure, if it helps you sleep better at night then go on, believe that the JFT missile locked an MKI with an underpowered radar.

The video shows participation in only one exercise that too within the AF...JF17 has participated at multiple times in multiple exercies with multiple airforces.
Also video shows only one international partcipation in an airshow...again JF17 has participated in multiple airshows and secured deals.
Night trials?..JF17 flies proper night missions not trials.

Yeah dude, JF17 has participated in multiple airshows except the one where Tejas was also to perform and PAF suspiciously pulled out at the very last moment, i.e. 2016 BIAS.