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Thousands of protesters have been camped out for more than a week within earshot of Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s house in Islamabad demanding that he resign from office. Some have carried stick figures of Sharif wearing a noose, creating a global image that the prime minister is embattled less than 15 months after he returned to office for his third term.

Yet an extensive new survey of public sentiment in Pakistan reveals that the ongoing demonstrations are hardly reflective of the views of most Pakistanis.

The annual Pew Research Center survey of Pakistan finds that 64 percent of residents have a favorable view of Sharif, a solid rating that has essentially remained constant since Sharif’s returned to power last year.

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Perhaps even more important in Sharif’s bid to hold off the demonstrators, led by former cricket star Imran Khan and firebrand cleric Tahirul Qadri, Pakistanis' positive views about the economy have risen dramatically over the past year.

About four in ten residents now have confidence in Pakistan’s economy, compared to just 17 percent who felt that way last year. Moreover, Pew notes that 36 percent of residents are optimistic that the economy will improve over the next year, twice as many who felt that way compared to last year.

Since returning to office after years of exile in the aftermath of a 1999 military coup that ousted him from his second term as premier, Sharif has made improving Pakistan’s stagnant economy a top priority. He has authorized hundreds of millions of dollars in construction projects, sought international assistance to try to tackle the country’s chronic energy shortages and is working to increase trade with neighboring countries.

Without question, Pakistan remains a long way from being able to call itself a happy, prosperous nation. It’s a country where the lights can still be out for as much as 16 hours a day, polio is known as a real disease and not just a vaccine, and the U.S. dollar has a 100-to-1 advantage over the Pakistani rupee.

Yet the fact that the poll finds that a quarter of voters now think the country is going in the right direction highlights a lifeline for Sharif as he tries to survive the political storm created by Khan and Qadri. Last year, according to Pew, just 8 percent of Pakistanis said the country was going in the right direction.

“Pakistanis are more satisfied with the direction of their country than they have been in six years,” Pew notes.

The Pew poll, which involved 1,203 face-to-face interviews, was conducted in late April and early May -- two months before Khan and Qadri mobilized their supporters to march on Islamabad.

But the poll suggests that Sharif began the summer with far more public support than Khan, whose party finished third in last year’s election but alleges that it was fraudulent.

The poll put Khan’s favorability rating at 53 percent. While still respectable in a country known for its fractious political system, Khan’s favorability rating has declined 17 percent over the past two years. That suggest that the more Pakistanis get to know Khan, who is known for his theatrics and often-inflexible stances on major issues, the less they like him.

If the poll contains any unsettling news for Sharif, it’s that his public support pales in comparison to the sky-high ratings for the country’s military.

Should the military decide that the best way to end the disruptive protest is to get rid of Sharif, it will likely be hard for the prime minister to generate broad public outrage against the move.

Nearly nine out of ten Pakistanis say the military is a positive influence in the country’s affairs – its highest level of support in a Pew poll since 2002, when former army chief Pervez Musharraf ran the country after he ousted Sharif in the 1999 coup.

In other findings, the poll reveals that Pakistan is a country that still doesn’t trust or particularly like the United States, but one where Islamic extremism is also frowned upon.

Only 14 percent of respondents have a favorable view of America, and Obama’s approval rating stands at just 7 percent. But the number of Pakistanis who hold a negative view of America has dropped by 20 percentage points over the past two years, from 80 percent in 2012 to 59 percent today.

And despite impressions from around globe that Pakistanis are too tolerant of Islamist extremism, the poll finds that just 8 percent of residents hold a positive view of the Taliban, while only 2 percent approve of al-Qaeda. Three-fifths of Pakistanis also view the Taliban as a serious threat to the nation.

Still, Pakistanis continue to identify neighboring India as the greatest threat to the country’s security, even though more than 50,000 Pakistanis have been killed in the country’s battle with the Taliban over the past decade.

And the numbers of Pakistanis who feel that way has shot up by about 10 percentage points over the past year, according to Pew.

In a country that has fought three wars against India since 1947, that suggests that old attitudes are hard to erase in Pakistan. That may also be good news for Sharif, who started his first term as prime minister two dozen years ago.


Tim Craig is The Post’s bureau chief in Pakistan. He has also covered conflicts in Iraq, Afghanistan and within the District of Columbia government.
Study: How Pakistan’s recent protests failed - The Washington Post
 
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How is the title related to the article and survey posted? This one is just as wrong as the "98% of Pakistanis ....." posted by @Aeronaut .
 
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What is it? 1203 ppl, 2 months before the protests started. Maryam Nawaj will be tweeting this like her life depends on this now.

he is a kejriwal of pakistan, his party will go down just like AAP


There is no comparison between the 2. IK has been around for long time and survived. IK was able to have government in KP, 34 seats in national parliament with the questionable elections. Kejriwals party got 2 or 4 seats from Punjab only.
 
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Thousands of protesters have been camped out for more than a week within earshot of Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s house in Islamabad demanding that he resign from office. Some have carried stick figures of Sharif wearing a noose, creating a global image that the prime minister is embattled less than 15 months after he returned to office for his third term.

Yet an extensive new survey of public sentiment in Pakistan reveals that the ongoing demonstrations are hardly reflective of the views of most Pakistanis.

The annual Pew Research Center survey of Pakistan finds that 64 percent of residents have a favorable view of Sharif, a solid rating that has essentially remained constant since Sharif’s returned to power last year.

pew.jpg



Perhaps even more important in Sharif’s bid to hold off the demonstrators, led by former cricket star Imran Khan and firebrand cleric Tahirul Qadri, Pakistanis' positive views about the economy have risen dramatically over the past year.

About four in ten residents now have confidence in Pakistan’s economy, compared to just 17 percent who felt that way last year. Moreover, Pew notes that 36 percent of residents are optimistic that the economy will improve over the next year, twice as many who felt that way compared to last year.

Since returning to office after years of exile in the aftermath of a 1999 military coup that ousted him from his second term as premier, Sharif has made improving Pakistan’s stagnant economy a top priority. He has authorized hundreds of millions of dollars in construction projects, sought international assistance to try to tackle the country’s chronic energy shortages and is working to increase trade with neighboring countries.

Without question, Pakistan remains a long way from being able to call itself a happy, prosperous nation. It’s a country where the lights can still be out for as much as 16 hours a day, polio is known as a real disease and not just a vaccine, and the U.S. dollar has a 100-to-1 advantage over the Pakistani rupee.

Yet the fact that the poll finds that a quarter of voters now think the country is going in the right direction highlights a lifeline for Sharif as he tries to survive the political storm created by Khan and Qadri. Last year, according to Pew, just 8 percent of Pakistanis said the country was going in the right direction.

“Pakistanis are more satisfied with the direction of their country than they have been in six years,” Pew notes.

The Pew poll, which involved 1,203 face-to-face interviews, was conducted in late April and early May -- two months before Khan and Qadri mobilized their supporters to march on Islamabad.

But the poll suggests that Sharif began the summer with far more public support than Khan, whose party finished third in last year’s election but alleges that it was fraudulent.

The poll put Khan’s favorability rating at 53 percent. While still respectable in a country known for its fractious political system, Khan’s favorability rating has declined 17 percent over the past two years. That suggest that the more Pakistanis get to know Khan, who is known for his theatrics and often-inflexible stances on major issues, the less they like him.

If the poll contains any unsettling news for Sharif, it’s that his public support pales in comparison to the sky-high ratings for the country’s military.

Should the military decide that the best way to end the disruptive protest is to get rid of Sharif, it will likely be hard for the prime minister to generate broad public outrage against the move.

Nearly nine out of ten Pakistanis say the military is a positive influence in the country’s affairs – its highest level of support in a Pew poll since 2002, when former army chief Pervez Musharraf ran the country after he ousted Sharif in the 1999 coup.

In other findings, the poll reveals that Pakistan is a country that still doesn’t trust or particularly like the United States, but one where Islamic extremism is also frowned upon.

Only 14 percent of respondents have a favorable view of America, and Obama’s approval rating stands at just 7 percent. But the number of Pakistanis who hold a negative view of America has dropped by 20 percentage points over the past two years, from 80 percent in 2012 to 59 percent today.

And despite impressions from around globe that Pakistanis are too tolerant of Islamist extremism, the poll finds that just 8 percent of residents hold a positive view of the Taliban, while only 2 percent approve of al-Qaeda. Three-fifths of Pakistanis also view the Taliban as a serious threat to the nation.

Still, Pakistanis continue to identify neighboring India as the greatest threat to the country’s security, even though more than 50,000 Pakistanis have been killed in the country’s battle with the Taliban over the past decade.

And the numbers of Pakistanis who feel that way has shot up by about 10 percentage points over the past year, according to Pew.

In a country that has fought three wars against India since 1947, that suggests that old attitudes are hard to erase in Pakistan. That may also be good news for Sharif, who started his first term as prime minister two dozen years ago.


Tim Craig is The Post’s bureau chief in Pakistan. He has also covered conflicts in Iraq, Afghanistan and within the District of Columbia government.
Study: How Pakistan’s recent protests failed - The Washington Post



American media supporting its puppet regime shouldn't be surprising for any true blooded Pakistani citizen.

Heck even @orangzaib and @Syed.Ali.Haider are fighting against change and accountability in Pakistan to push their country's foreign policy objectives.
 
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American media supporting its puppet regime shouldn't be surprising for any true blooded Pakistani citizen.

Heck even @orangzaib and @Syed.Ali.Haider are fighting against change and accountability in Pakistan to push their country's foreign policy objectives.

Actually, I am arguing for the rule of law and legal transfer of power. That can only be good for Pakistan. Of course, you seem to disagree because of your own fixed ideas about what is better for Pakistan than that. Please mark my words: Even if IK and PTI had power tomorrow, nothing substantive will change for the people of Pakistan. We can talk about it if and when it happens. Fair enough?
 
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American media supporting its puppet regime shouldn't be surprising for any true blooded Pakistani citizen.

Heck even @orangzaib and @Syed.Ali.Haider are fighting against change and accountability in Pakistan to push their country's foreign policy objectives.

Aero - you got me ALL wrong. No one's wanting to push any "agenda" here. Look, I'll try to give you a couple of analogies and these are based on PURE human psychiatry:
1) What happens is when two parents fight in front of their kids all the time and verbally abuse each other? Kids become mentally upset, have bad childhood and these same kids become depressed and all later on, the some of the SAME kids will go towards doing extreme things like Stealing, Drugs and the list goes on and on.
Now leaders are like parents too. Both of the parents (in this case, the gov't and the IK/Mullah) need to deal with this patience. Otherwise, what example you are leaving will probably destroy your system. They need to do it in a better way. IK and Mullah need less extremist types of intensity. They can't ask for "negotiations" and ONLY stick to "agree to all". Negotiations are between TWO parties. It ALSO means either of you won't get 100% of anything as its negotiations and its give and take. "Accept 100% of my demands or else I'll have people killed and parliament destroyed"....does this sound like negotiations to you or its a threat? In fact, its a threat to an entire country, not to just the government. I hope you guys see the point. If 4 or 5 out of 6 demands were being met, in PEOPLE's and the COUNTRY's best interest, IK should've moved on. That would've been a huge success without blood shed and then next time, if the other two aren't done through democratic elections or investigation, he'll have a right to bring people back on the street. In fact, at that time, he'll have a LOT more people with him as people saw how well he negotiated the first time and without risking lives. He's not that smart....now, he's risking lives. You don't run systems like this, you run them with negotiations and with care for people's lives.

This example being set up by leaders would mean in the future, anyone with 100K people will jam Islamabad and will destroy the government that they didn't like or agreed with. How would this revolution "change" anything? Will you KILL NS's vote bank of Millions or PPP's vote-bank in Sindh in Millions or MQM's vote bank in Karachi???? NOTHING like this will happen. The SAME people will come back again. What CAN happen is that you tighten the legislation enough to avoid fraud as much as possible. But then this is BOUND to happen if another government completed its cycle. That's how this works, each cycle will start to clean up the system if people identify where the mistakes were. Destroying the country out of ego and hate will HARDLY get anyone anything!! In fact, it'll break your country.

Think about it, and I really want the readers to take a DEEP breathe, and really think for a second, not for NS or IK or PTI...for your country and its society.
This entire thing does wrong tomorrow, people get killed and government may or may not get toppled. But blood shed will happen.....then WHAT? I keep hearing you'll change the system and how NS and PPP "families in politics" will change and all.

HOW will you stop their children from participating in elections?? Are the children of these leaders not Pakistani citizens? Do they not have a vote bank for the future? Bhutto was killed...did that END his family's political career? Heck, Benazir was killed...and look, people brought Zardari in the government. The Father of Corruption!!!
So there is NO WAY you can get people killed and may or may NOT topple the government, but still hope you'll change the system.
The ONLY change in the system comes from WITHIN the system. Outside of it, its bloodshed and all. How do you do a "revolution" when combined NS and PPP (just TWO big parties) have over 75% public support?

So no one is posing their agenda like the conspiracy theories suggest. It always looks like you guys aren't thinking straight and this talk of "changing the system" and "kicking out these families from the politics" is simply retarded. You are at 2 Trillion lost in economic activity without any reason and for two people's ego. Frankly speaking, if this had happened anywhere in the world (including US, Canada, India, etc), these two will be declared Public Enemies by the State and punished with extreme jail time. You can't take a country hostage when you have less than 10% of the voting power. IK and Mulah are imposing a "Civilian Marshal Law" on people.
 
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Aero - you got me ALL wrong. No one's wanting to push any "agenda" here. Look, I'll try to give you a couple of analogies and these are based on PURE human psychiatry:
1) What happens is when two parents fight in front of their kids all the time and verbally abuse each other? Kids become mentally upset, have bad childhood and these same kids become depressed and all later on, the some of the SAME kids will go towards doing extreme things like Stealing, Drugs and the list goes on and on.
Now leaders are like parents too. Both of the parents (in this case, the gov't and the IK/Mullah) need to deal with this patience. Otherwise, what example you are leaving will probably destroy your system. They need to do it in a better way. IK and Mullah need less extremist types of intensity. They can't ask for "negotiations" and ONLY stick to "agree to all". Negotiations are between TWO parties. It ALSO means either of you won't get 100% of anything as its negotiations and its give and take. "Accept 100% of my demands or else I'll have people killed and parliament destroyed"....does this sound like negotiations to you or its a threat? In fact, its a threat to an entire country, not to just the government. I hope you guys see the point. If 4 or 5 out of 6 demands were being met, in PEOPLE's and the COUNTRY's best interest, IK should've moved on. That would've been a huge success without blood shed and then next time, if the other two aren't done through democratic elections or investigation, he'll have a right to bring people back on the street. In fact, at that time, he'll have a LOT more people with him as people saw how well he negotiated the first time and without risking lives. He's not that smart....now, he's risking lives. You don't run systems like this, you run them with negotiations and with care for people's lives.

This example being set up by leaders would mean in the future, anyone with 100K people will jam Islamabad and will destroy the government that they didn't like or agreed with. How would this revolution "change" anything? Will you KILL NS's vote bank of Millions or PPP's vote-bank in Sindh in Millions or MQM's vote bank in Karachi???? NOTHING like this will happen. The SAME people will come back again. What CAN happen is that you tighten the legislation enough to avoid fraud as much as possible. But then this is BOUND to happen if another government completed its cycle. That's how this works, each cycle will start to clean up the system if people identify where the mistakes were. Destroying the country out of ego and hate will HARDLY get anyone anything!! In fact, it'll break your country.

Think about it, and I really want the readers to take a DEEP breathe, and really think for a second, not for NS or IK or PTI...for your country and its society.
This entire thing does wrong tomorrow, people get killed and government may or may not get toppled. But blood shed will happen.....then WHAT? I keep hearing you'll change the system and how NS and PPP "families in politics" will change and all.

HOW will you stop their children from participating in elections?? Are the children of these leaders not Pakistani citizens? Do they not have a vote bank for the future? Bhutto was killed...did that END his family's political career? Heck, Benazir was killed...and look, people brought Zardari in the government. The Father of Corruption!!!
So there is NO WAY you can get people killed and may or may NOT topple the government, but still hope you'll change the system.
The ONLY change in the system comes from WITHIN the system. Outside of it, its bloodshed and all. How do you do a "revolution" when combined NS and PPP (just TWO big parties) have over 75% public support?

So no one is posing their agenda like the conspiracy theories suggest. It always looks like you guys aren't thinking straight and this talk of "changing the system" and "kicking out these families from the politics" is simply retarded. You are at 2 Trillion lost in economic activity without any reason and for two people's ego. Frankly speaking, if this had happened anywhere in the world (including US, Canada, India, etc), these two will be declared Public Enemies by the State and punished with extreme jail time. You can't take a country hostage when you have less than 10% of the voting power. IK and Mulah are imposing a "Civilian Marshal Law" on people.

Still doesn't change following facts

  • You are not one of us.
  • Your loyalty is with the US (which is natural) not with Pakistan.
  • Your knowledge about Pakistan's political and social landscape is at best primitive
  • You are talking side with a pharaoh who won illegal elections, denied us our freedoms to demand accountability and ordered the massacre of 14 of our brethren and sisters in Lahore.
  • You are pushing your nation's foreign policy goals simply because you deem Nawaz to be serving your national interest which i see as high treason.

    That is the difference of opinion between us.

    Peace
 
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How is the title related to the article and survey posted? This one is just as wrong as the "98% of Pakistanis ....." posted by @Aeronaut .
That 98% was clear bs. Aero is very pro pti, so you can expect such surveys.

The title is relevant because the protests failed to make imran more popular, in fact, made him less.

Still doesn't change following facts

  • You are not one of us.
  • Your loyalty is with the US (which is natural) not with Pakistan.
  • Your knowledge about Pakistan's political and social landscape is at best primitive
  • You are talking side with a pharaoh who won illegal elections, denied us our freedoms to demand accountability and ordered the massacre of 14 of our brethren and sisters in Lahore.
  • You are pushing your nation's foreign policy goals simply because you deem Nawaz to be serving your national interest which i see as high treason.

    That is the difference of opinion between us.

    Peace
He's not wrong. Many of us hold similar opinion, whilst being Pakistani. If you don't like US foreign policy, stop taking hundreds of millions of dollars in USaid, starting with kpk. There is no such thing as free sandwich.

Now, are you going to say I'm Canadian? Well, your imported inqalabi is Canadian too. But then I must be paid noora or Indian. Hell, entire world is jew noora paid. For PTI goons, the economist, guardian, new york times, al arabiya, every single one against Pakistan, PTI.
 
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That 98% was clear bs. Aero is very pro pti, so you can expect such surveys.

The title is relevant because the protests failed to make imran more popular, in fact, made him less.


He's not wrong. Many of us hold similar opinion, whilst being Pakistani. If you don't like US foreign policy, stop taking hundreds of millions of dollars in USaid, starting with kpk. There is no such thing as free sandwich.

Now, are you going to say I'm Canadian? Well, your imported inqalabi is Canadian too. But then I must be paid noora or Indian. Hell, entire world is jew noora paid. For PTI goons, the economist, guardian, new york times, al arabiya, every single one against Pakistan, PTI.

Please let @Aeronaut be for now. His thinking is skewed more than usual these days due to the situation in Pakistan. Once that is resolved and he recovers from the shock, he will start to breathe again, his view will return to his usual zeal, but not too over the top like right now.
 
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Please let @Aeronaut be for now. His thinking is skewed more than usual these days due to the situation in Pakistan. Once that is resolved and he recovers from the shock, he will start to breathe again, his view will return to his usual zeal, but not too over the top like right now.
Indeed. But he isn't going to get any better. You should read his comments about India. I'll try to find quote and post here.
 
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