Stop Blaming India for Quetta Attack or Any Other Terror Attack

[Zarvan]

Why??

Because all this blaming and whining is simply moronic and is totally stupid.

India is an enemy. We all know that. An enemy job naturally is supposed to hurt you. It is natural. India would try to harm Pakistan which again is natural. It is neither surprising and nor something unexpected.

What matters is what we as a nation and a country are doing?

Why we have become such a coward who can't even stand up to Afghanistan.

Why are we so indifferent towards death of our people.

Why we expect American and that sorry excuse of a country Afghanistan to kill TTP and other terrorists for us?

Why don't we do it ourselves?

Why don't we threaten Afghanistan of dire consequences in case of another terror attack?

Why we keep requesting and begging to this joke called as Afghanistan to kill our enemies?

What is stopping us from hanging terrorists that are present in our jails?(nope no terrorist of TTP is being hanged right now)

What is stopping us from improving our security procedures in our territory?

What is stopping us from removing and punishing IG balochistan for his incompetency?

If we can't do all above then mind my words. We have no reason and no justification to blame India without doing above.

These questions seem to be posted by 4 year old Kid. Yes India is supporting TTP and LEJ and denying it is only prove that either that person is with India or totally innocent or stupid. Secondly going for strikes in Afghanistan have massive international repercussions even if may manage to kill TTP leaders, new leaders would come forward but worst thing which would happen is all kind of sanctions on us. Sorry but this fight has to be fought with corporation with USA which I hate more than you but this is harsh bitter reality and a bad pill which we have to swallow. Afghanistan has right now protection of NATO and USA combine so have some thought before writing what you wrote. ? What is stopping us from security procedures well look at your budget and its a bloody joke ? Finally IG needs to be punished he handed over these recruits on a plate to these terrorists. If there would have been at least 15 Police Commandos deployed we would have managed to save several lives. @Areesh

 

[Sine Nomine]

Unfortunate, but true. There is no thought given at such times to the repercussions of these actions.

Not at that time only,sometimes just for minor gains things are portrayed and publicized in such a way that after that time is over,that portray becomes a huge burden.Kashmir, this issue can be solved but both Governments have portrayed and publicized this issue in such a way that they are in end left with no option for settlement.That was primary due to short sightedness.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Not at that time only,sometimes just for minor gains things are portrayed and publicized in such a way that after that time is over,that portray becomes a huge burden.Kashmir, this issue can be solved but both Governments have portrayed and publicized this issue in such a way that they are in end left with no option for settlement.That was primary due to short sightedness.

I have just been having a very protracted discussion with VCheng elsewhere on this very point. He is irritated and disturbed that the constitutional deadlocks are so major. I had referred to the constitutional limitations in both the Indian constitution and the J&K state constitution (J&K is unique in having its own constitution and its own flag!!!) to giving away or accepting additions to the territorial extent recognised at the time of independence. I am wondering whether to copy and paste that entire discussion here, or haul you away screaming at the top of your voice to see that conversation as it developed.

 

[Hellfire]

I have just been having a very protracted discussion with VCheng elsewhere on this very point. He is irritated and disturbed that the constitutional deadlocks are so major. I had referred to the constitutional limitations in both the Indian constitution and the J&K state constitution (J&K is unique in having its own constitution and its own flag!!!) to giving away or accepting additions to the territorial extent recognised at the time of independence. I am wondering whether to copy and paste that entire discussion here, or haul you away screaming at the top of your voice to see that conversation as it developed.

The latter may be apt. However, the former desirable if required. Other than the fact that once that excellent exchange is posted here and will be trolled by people with rudimentary limbic system, thereby precluding an effective and enjoyable discourse, nothing should be an impediment.

 

[Joe Shearer]

The latter may be apt. However, the former desirable if required. Other than the fact that once that excellent exchange is posted here and will be trolled by people with rudimentary limbic system, thereby precluding an effective and enjoyable discourse, nothing should be an impediment.

GIVE ME A DECISION! WHICH ONE?

 

[Hellfire]

GIVE ME A DECISION! WHICH ONE?

the former

 

[Sine Nomine]

I have just been having a very protracted discussion with VCheng elsewhere on this very point. He is irritated and disturbed that the constitutional deadlocks are so major. I had referred to the constitutional limitations in both the Indian constitution and the J&K state constitution (J&K is unique in having its own constitution and its own flag!!!) to giving away or accepting additions to the territorial extent recognised at the time of independence. I am wondering whether to copy and paste that entire discussion here, or haul you away screaming at the top of your voice to see that conversation as it developed.

I have came across few limitations myself while in LEA,we were investigating a drug smuggling ring and there boss was Kashmiri,he ran back to Kashmir.Arresting that guy was headache.For many months we failed to arrest him,when finally he was arrested,his lawyers came up with AJK constitution in which state of Kashmir was having no extradition treaty with Islamabad,so if we desire to carryout investigation we were more then welcome to travel 1800km every week and conduct an investigation under supervision of AJK judiciary and police.We just let him go and after three years we arrested him in Lahore.
In Pakistan kashmiris can but property in other provinces but no one can buy property there.

 

[Joe Shearer]

the former

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Is that OK then? Please confirm you wish to read it.

I have came across few limitations myself while in LEA,we were investigating a drug smuggling ring and there boss was Kashmiri,he ran back to Kashmir.Arresting that guy was headache.For many months we failed to arrest him,when finally he was arrested,his lawyers came up with AJK constitution in which state of Kashmir was having no extradition treaty with Islamabad,so if we desire to carryout investigation we were more then welcome to travel 1800km every week and conduct an investigation under supervision of AJK judiciary and police.We just let him go and after three years we arrested him in Lahore.
In Pakistan kashmiris can but property in other provinces but no one can buy property there.

It's the same in India. In India that's due to the Ranbir Code, which J&K follows, instead of the IPC and the CrPC.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Is that OK then? Please confirm you wish to read it.

I will be more then happy if you will summarize it.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

If pleblicite is not happening in kashmir... its ur army and govt to be blamed... not india... so better go and read that UN resolution on pleblicite in kashmir...

can you guarantee pleblicite if pakistan take the first step?
i don't think so india would do any thing except captured the land.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I will be more then happy if you will summarize it.

What I can do is leave out repetitious messages?

 

[Avijit]

there is more evidence of indian sponsored terrorist attacks thn there are human beings in your pathetic filthy country.

it is just that our moronic politicians dont submit all that evidence internationally because of their personal gains otherwise your country would be isolated more thna patient of HERPES.

To claim that you have evidence, you NEED evidence. And you have nothing. Kulbushan was a spy that got caught and confessed. There are probably more. In fact, any Indian would be an idiot to believe that there are no Pakistani spies in India. So, if there is evidence, please show it. Don't hide behind the garb of blaming politicians for it.

Isolate India? Do you even know the level of investment in India by the world? Even China cannot think of isolating India, bro..

 

[Sine Nomine]

What I can do is leave out repetitious messages?

Sure.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Nowhere that I could find. But there are broad interpretations possible.

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   • Directly ruled provinces and Governors for those provinces;
   • The area leased to the British;
   • The states which acknowledged the suzerainty of the Maharaja of J&K.

That's the best I could do.

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   • #3 was Chitral.
   • #2 was the Gilgit Agency.
   • #1 was all the rest, including, without any foundation, Aksai Chin.

 

[Alternative]

I'm not sure I agree. It depends on what meaning of culture you are using here. I am using it in the sense of affinity on so-called cultural aspects: language, literature, poetry, drama, performing art other than drama, visual art, clothing, cuisine, the decoration of dwellings, public festivals and holidays.....this is just a random list. By that hall-mark, the unity of Indian culture is clear and forthright. So, too, is Pakistan as a cultural unit.

Perhaps if you expand your objections, I could understand your pov better.

By your definition, Europe would be more of a nation than India.
India is at least ten times more diverse in your so-called cultural aspects............