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SSG in the den...video of the Operation

i think the main objective should be to kill en leadership

by doing it taliban of swat will fall within weeks

remember leaders are important center of gravity
leaders ensure coordination between different talibani groups/units.
kill fazullah and top leaders taliban will fall

We dont want them to fall and wait for another leader to emerge .. we want them to die .. destroy the arms .. destroy their will to fight .. make it harder for them to survive .. I highly doubt they will be able to capture the top leaders .. from what I gather they are killing anything and everything .. shot 2 of our own the other day trying to get back to their units .. may they rest in peace ..
 
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i hope everyone realizes that PAKISTAN cannot win where the US lost....the rules of victory should be as follows.....

1)PUSH THE TALIBAN OUT OF PAKISTAN

2)BREAK THE WAR WAGING CAPABILITES OF TALIBAN

3) CAPTURE A TOP LEADER IF POSSIBLE


you cannot expect us to catch MUSLIM KHAN,FAZLULLAH taking a stroll down the street.
 
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may be i was wrong. read this following article



May 13, 2009

Pakistan drops hundreds of commandos in Taleban's Swat strongholds

Zahid Hussain in Islamabad
Hundreds of Pakistani commandos were dropped by helicopter into a mountainous Taleban stronghold in the Swat district yesterday as the Army stepped up its campaign to root out the militants’ top commanders.

Members of the counter-insurgency force landed behind the front line in the Piochar region, about 40 miles from Mingora, the main city in the Swat Valley.

It was the first time that such forces had been involved in fighting since the military offensive began in the valley more than a week ago. “It signifies a major shift in the fighting,” Major-General Athar Abbas, the chief military spokesman, said.

Previous military action has tended to peter out without the capture or deaths of leading insurgents. Past stalemates brought criticism, particularly from the country’s American allies, that the Army was not pursuing the Taleban hard enough. This time, Pakistani leaders say, the Army will not rest until it has wiped out all militants.

The offensive has won praise even from the US. According to the Pakistani officials, there are about 5,000 Taleban militants fighting 15,000 regular government troops in what is being described as the biggest counter-insurgency operation that Pakistan has undertaken since 2001.

Piochar, 10,000ft (3,050m) above sea level, is regarded as the main base for the militants. “The troops have surrounded the terrorist camps and are closing in on the militants’ command centre,” General Abbas said. Among them, the general said, was Mullah Fazalullah, the leader of the Swat insurgency, and some of his top commanders. “Our main strategy is to block the free movement of the militants and eliminate the entire leadership.”

The army claims that 751 militants have been killed in Swat and neighbouring districts so far, with 29 soldiers dead. But the figures could not be verified independently.

Government forces have been using heavy artillery, helicopter gunships and fighter jets to pound Taleban positions but this has forced hundreds of thousands of residents to flee the area.

The Army launched a full-scale assault on the Swat Valley and the surrounding districts last week after Taleban militants tried to extend their influence to areas only 65 miles from the capital, Islamabad, on the back of a peace deal that handed them control of the region.

Government ground and air forces are also operating in the neighbouring districts of Buner and Lower Dir, turning a large swath of the northwestern region into a battle zone.

Mullah Fazalullah, the long-haired, 34-year-old cleric also known as Mullah Radio for his fiery broadcasts from a pirate station, had declared holy war against the Pakistani Government, calling it un-Islamic.

His hardline brand of Sharia, briefly established in Swat, banned music and education for girls, and his followers destroyed hundreds of girls’ schools.

Although Swat does not border Afghanistan, Mullah Fazalullah has pledged allegiance to Mullah Omar, the spiritual leader of Afghanistan’s Taleban movement. Pakistan says that he has close links to al-Qaeda, and many foreign fighters are believed to have joined the battle for Swat.

The commandos sent to Piochar have been trained under a new programme for fighting in the region’s tough mountainous terrain. They have joined the Frontier Corps, a once neglected Interior Ministry force that now has millions of dollars in American funding and training with some British assistance.

It is believed to have been very effective in recent assaults on the Taleban in Buner and the tribal region of Bajaur. However, Government forces have yet to start the bloody business of “hardcore” urban warfare to retake towns seized by the militants.

“This is going to be a difficult battle because hundreds of thousands of people are still trapped inside \ and militants are using them as shields,” General Abbas said. In Mingora the Taleban are said to have taken up positions in residential areas and to have mined the main roads.

General Abbas indicated that the fighting could last for months, adding that the army was heading towards Mingora from two directions. Military spokesmen said yesterday that the number displaced in the region had risen to 1.3 million, including half a million who fled fighting in Bajaur last year. Aid workers have expressed concerns at the poor levels of water, food and medical supplies.

President Zardari called on the international community last night to help refugees driven from their homes by the fighting. “They are losing their crops, they’re losing their earnings, their livelihood and their homes, so we want the world to help us,” he said.

The UN’s World Food Programme said that it was doubling its shipments of emergency food to the new refugees but warned that more funds were needed. “We need the international donor community to quickly step forward with donations to avoid any interruptions in food distributions,” said Wolfgang Herbinger, WFP’s representative in Pakistan.

Most-wanted leaders

Shah Doran A firebrand orator, he would read out the names of people to be killed on Taleban-run FM radio. He has been blamed for murdering Pakistani soldiers

Muslim Khan The chief spokesman of the Taleban in Swat, returned to Pakistan in 2002 after spending four years in the US as a construction worker. He was blamed for ordering the deaths of people accused of being informants for the military

Bin Yamin One of the fiercest Taleban commanders, is blamed for attacks on Pakistan’s Army. His brother was also a militant commander

Pakistan drops hundreds of commandos in Taleban's Swat strongholds - Times Online
haha bro i just read it on another thread u posted it on yea seems like they will be in swat i think these guys are very well organised i mean i watched the documentary on bajuar and my god it was amazing they were so well dug in they had little pot holes in the middle of fields which was impossible for a helipcopter to pick up and huge underground rooms and shelters so i think it might be a while before its all cleared
 
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haha bro i just read it on another thread u posted it on yea seems like they will be in swat i think these guys are very well organised i mean i watched the documentary on bajuar and my god it was amazing they were so well dug in they had little pot holes in the middle of fields which was impossible for a helipcopter to pick up and huge underground rooms and shelters so i think it might be a while before its all cleared

well al jazeera is reportin that taliban leaders have fled the area :(
 
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i havent watched news yet i hope its not true because that would be disastrous we cant have these bearded apes regrouping wat are they saying who did they get this from
 
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I think they are hideing in swat

army has enveloped the valley and their is no way they can escape except by useing tactic of Mollana abdul aziz of lal masjid...who tried to escape in burka
 
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our aim should be to DESTROY their WAR WAGING CAPABILITES....catching the top leaders alive is a BONUS
 
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yea i mean the army seems fairly confident and now if they escape it will be somewhat of an embarassment because it will most certainly allow them to regroup but i doubt they can ever occupy swat again after the peoples suppourt seems to be with army they will however be able to carry out suicide attacks
 
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our aim should be to DESTROY their WAR WAGING CAPABILITES....catching the top leaders alive is a BONUS

i think getting the leaders will cut their war waging abilities its also very demoralising for them seeing their leader captured
 
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our aim should be to DESTROY their WAR WAGING CAPABILITES....catching the top leaders alive is a BONUS

it will be a temporary sucess but they will re organize and with help of enemy states and groups re equip them selves but if you distroy leadership it will take years to regroup and become threat to state
thats why i say go for leadership
cut the head and body will rott automatically
 
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it will be a temporary sucess but they will re organize and with help of enemy states and groups re equip them selves but if you distroy leadership it will take years to regroup and become threat to state
thats why i say go for leadership
cut the head and body will rott automatically

but another thing with the taliban is that in afghanistan commanders are regularly killed but another one comes through so i think a mix between high taliban casualities and getting leaders is important in other words maximum damage must be done so as to break their will to fight or so there numbers will not allow them to carry on
 
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taliban in afghanistan have different dynamics
they are fighting the occupation...and pashtun support them according to few reports taliban movement is changeing into pashtun ethnic struggle in afghanistan where as in Pakistan these so called talibs are Takfiri thugs getting support from out side to fight own brotheren
 
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taliban in afghanistan have different dynamics
they are fighting the occupation...and pashtun support them according to few reports taliban movement is changeing into pashtun ethnic struggle in afghanistan where as in Pakistan these so called talibs are Takfiri thugs getting support from out side to fight own brotheren

we cant suppourt one talib and not another we saw the suffering the afghans went through because of those thugs and now it is unfortunate that pashtuns are being pushed to suppourt them in afghan that is because there is no pride in pashto there other than the notes which have pashton writing on them not a sign that they are the biggest minority in afghanistan they are the original inhabitants of afghanistan it is upto the politicians to take some pride in themselves and thier language so they do not alienate pashtoons.
i no the difference but the military setup is the same leaders are easily replaceable but political leadership is not thats why maximum damage to the militants and the capture of the political leaders is essential
 
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i havent watched news yet i hope its not true because that would be disastrous we cant have these bearded apes regrouping wat are they saying who did they get this from

i didnt watch it. i read it online. there u go...

Speculation suggests that Fazlullah remains in the Swat valley. Sources close to the Taliban have told Al Jazeera that Fazlullah knew that the army would target his base and that, by leaving fighters there, he was able to escape along with the senior leadership.
Al Jazeera English - Focus - Pakistan diary: Media wars
 
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i didnt watch it. i read it online. there u go...


Al Jazeera English - Focus - Pakistan diary: Media wars
interesting indead but we will have to wait as those sources may not be reliable if true then i would agree with the article that is raises his strenth and legend among taliban fighters so its essential he is captured and hung by his gonads sorry but i hate this child i have a friend from mingora and hes told me this guy is scum
 
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