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Its not expression. Its experience. And it has not happened once or twice. It has happened over a period of long time. And these experience comes from general public.
Expression due to experience ..you will not easily express your family disappointments out in open ..why ?
It may help your frustration temporarily but never solves the problem ..You need patience and hope to maintain a family of differences ..
 
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Expression due to experience ..you will not easily express your family disappointments out in open ..why ?
It may help your frustration temporarily but never solves the problem ..You need patience and hope to maintain a family of differences ..
Listen. Again. This is not the case. If my family has a problem and it continues for a long time, I am afraid divorce will happen. And we must not wait too long for that. What I am saying is that, its an experience gathered in a long period of time.
 
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FYI I don't know whether you are a lady or a Muslim. You sound like a Hindu who wants Muslims to live in a particular manner.

You never give a straight answer. Let me dumb it down for you. If there is a conflict of interest, what will you choose Islam/Ummah or India? What if Indian government decides to implement an Uniform Civil Code which most of Indian Constitution makers wanted? Which side will you support?

Israel is a dependable ally of India but an enemy of Muslims? So in this case will you India's interest over Islam's.

Now answer the simple question! Whats more important to you Islam or India? Don't give me that BS that both are equally important to you. Cause it's not possible as I have explained.


what if she's real ? do u need to do that ? you found the loophole in PDF my dear young man. troll the retards..let her be..
 
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Listen. Again. This is not the case. If my family has a problem and it continues for a long time, I am afraid divorce will happen. And we must not wait too long for that. What I am saying is that, its an experience gathered in a long period of time.
This is my family too ..Everything will come to a logical end and lessons will be learnt but forcing your way without those invaluable lessons will make you prone to another tragedy ..life may be short for an individual and for his experience but if you are talking about nation then you cant expect a speedy reaction like that in individuals life ..
 
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This is my family too ..Everything will come to a logical end and lessons will be learnt but forcing your way without those invaluable lessons will make you prone to another tragedy ..life may be short for an individual and for his experience but if you are talking about nation then you cant expect a speedy reaction like that in individuals life ..
Again. See. we can take example of other families too. For example west. Here all are treated equally. But again some people of a specific community have a problem with that. The silent majority of that community is always silent( I would rather call them silent supporters). That is what I wanted to say. The question which was asked by another member is vital here. For example which interest a community should follow ? National or communal ? If you look into the west you will have the answer.
 
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Again. See. we can take example of other families too. For example west. Here all are treated equally. But again some people of a specific community have a problem with that. The silent majority of that community is always silent( I would rather call them silent supporters). That is what I wanted to say. The question which was asked by another member is vital here. For example which interest a community should follow ? National or communal ? If you look into the west you will have the answer.
If you come out of borders all these things look silly to you ..but it has been a universally acknoledged way and we want to show ourself beautifully as a nation ..difference can emerge even if we are single community ..because its built in our system ..Beautiful will be learning to live with difference rather than highliting differences ..Everything requires time to heal ..So called religions which devides people in to different identity is dyeing too ..need time
 
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Every community feels superior than others. Brits and french, english and scottish, catholics and protestants, shias and sunnis, hindus and muslims, north indians and south indians and innumerable groups and communities have jokes and sarcasm against each others. that does not mean they hate each other. Specially we indians know how to live with diversity. I am living in mumbai. I am often grouped as a woman, as a north indian, as a bhaiya from UP, as a muslim, as a sunni, as a non-vegetarian etc etc but when i am grouped as a woman i have with me women of all communites, religions, regions; when i am grouped as a north indian or a UPite i get united with men and women of all communites from north india; when i am grouped as a muslim or sunni muslim, i get united with men and women of the community from all over india or for that matter even the world over...... what i mean to say there are many links like a matrix that separates us and unite us as well. I have something common with north indians like language, culture, and food etc. that unites me more with a hindu from north india than a muslim from south india but when i have my religion, i feel the muslims from kerala, hyderabad, UP or Mumbai are all same and this very thing unites us with muslims of Arab, Pakistan and anywhere in the world... I am sure in the same way hindus or sikhs living in Pakistan would be relating themselves with Indian hindus and sikhs. So everybody in the world has something to be connected with each other... this is what referred as "Vasudhaiv Kutumbakam". Similarly when it comes to India, I automatically get united with people of India from Kashmir to kanyakumari and from arunachal to gujarat regardless of which region, religion they belong to.

Its very unfortunate that many people feel that indian muslims should not identify or relate with pakistani muslims and if they relate, they are anti national. I can only pity their mindset. Look at Sania Mirza who proudly carries the indian flag despite marrying a pakistani and proudly calls herself an Indian and not just indian but a patriotic indian. There are many marriages between indians and pakistanis. Actress Ayesha Dharkar's mother is a pakistani muslim married to an indian hindu. And if Ayesha or her father feel that India-Pak should be friends, will you term them as anti national. Let me tell you that if Hindus feel for hindus all over the world, sikhs feel for sikhs from Nankana Sahib, Paksitan and elsewhere then there is nothing wrong if a shia has a soft corner for Iran and shias else where and muslims have a feeling of brotherhood for their Ummah. Indian nationalism is not restricted to a community but it belongs to all. Remember a school boy of mongoloid race from Manipur wanting to be the PM of India when he grows up... and trying to take tips from Modi. I am sure you did not get a chance to interact with North Eastern people else you will categorize them also as anti hindu or anti india or anti south asian race. Please dont fall prey to political gimmicks of some petty political groups and dont let them destroy the essence of our nationhood. Please dont forget that those muslims who did not want to live with other indians, migrated to pakistan. Those hindus and sikhs who did not want to live in India migrated to canada and other western countries. And there will be people who may be hating India for various reasons like being dirty, poor, lack of infrastructure and other basic facilities and lack of opportunities or religious intolerance but unable to move out of india... that does not mean as a nation we should kill them or declare them anti national. They have a right to their feelings and right to express themselves. Thats where we feel proud of our diversity, democracy and tolerance.


Exactly......
N one of d excellent post i have seen on pdf..... Thumbs up ......

Every community feels superior than others. Brits and french, english and scottish, catholics and protestants, shias and sunnis, hindus and muslims, north indians and south indians and innumerable groups and communities have jokes and sarcasm against each others. that does not mean they hate each other. Specially we indians know how to live with diversity. I am living in mumbai. I am often grouped as a woman, as a north indian, as a bhaiya from UP, as a muslim, as a sunni, as a non-vegetarian etc etc but when i am grouped as a woman i have with me women of all communites, religions, regions; when i am grouped as a north indian or a UPite i get united with men and women of all communites from north india; when i am grouped as a muslim or sunni muslim, i get united with men and women of the community from all over india or for that matter even the world over...... what i mean to say there are many links like a matrix that separates us and unite us as well. I have something common with north indians like language, culture, and food etc. that unites me more with a hindu from north india than a muslim from south india but when i have my religion, i feel the muslims from kerala, hyderabad, UP or Mumbai are all same and this very thing unites us with muslims of Arab, Pakistan and anywhere in the world... I am sure in the same way hindus or sikhs living in Pakistan would be relating themselves with Indian hindus and sikhs. So everybody in the world has something to be connected with each other... this is what referred as "Vasudhaiv Kutumbakam". Similarly when it comes to India, I automatically get united with people of India from Kashmir to kanyakumari and from arunachal to gujarat regardless of which region, religion they belong to.

Its very unfortunate that many people feel that indian muslims should not identify or relate with pakistani muslims and if they relate, they are anti national. I can only pity their mindset. Look at Sania Mirza who proudly carries the indian flag despite marrying a pakistani and proudly calls herself an Indian and not just indian but a patriotic indian. There are many marriages between indians and pakistanis. Actress Ayesha Dharkar's mother is a pakistani muslim married to an indian hindu. And if Ayesha or her father feel that India-Pak should be friends, will you term them as anti national. Let me tell you that if Hindus feel for hindus all over the world, sikhs feel for sikhs from Nankana Sahib, Paksitan and elsewhere then there is nothing wrong if a shia has a soft corner for Iran and shias else where and muslims have a feeling of brotherhood for their Ummah. Indian nationalism is not restricted to a community but it belongs to all. Remember a school boy of mongoloid race from Manipur wanting to be the PM of India when he grows up... and trying to take tips from Modi. I am sure you did not get a chance to interact with North Eastern people else you will categorize them also as anti hindu or anti india or anti south asian race. Please dont fall prey to political gimmicks of some petty political groups and dont let them destroy the essence of our nationhood. Please dont forget that those muslims who did not want to live with other indians, migrated to pakistan. Those hindus and sikhs who did not want to live in India migrated to canada and other western countries. And there will be people who may be hating India for various reasons like being dirty, poor, lack of infrastructure and other basic facilities and lack of opportunities or religious intolerance but unable to move out of india... that does not mean as a nation we should kill them or declare them anti national. They have a right to their feelings and right to express themselves. Thats where we feel proud of our diversity, democracy and tolerance.


Exactly......
N one of d excellent post i have seen on pdf..... Thumbs up ......
 
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FYI I don't know whether you are a lady or a Muslim. You sound like a Hindu who wants Muslims to live in a particular manner.

You never give a straight answer. Let me dumb it down for you. If there is a conflict of interest, what will you choose Islam/Ummah or India? What if Indian government decides to implement an Uniform Civil Code which most of Indian Constitution makers wanted? Which side will you support?

Israel is a dependable ally of India but an enemy of Muslims? So in this case will you India's interest over Islam's.

Now answer the simple question! Whats more important to you Islam or India? Don't give me that BS that both are equally important to you. Cause it's not possible as I have explained.

If you have read my posts, if you can read my id name you would not ask such a question. If you doubt the veracity so also you are supposed to accept it at face value. dont expect anyone to give you any proof about herself and who are you to ask for it? your id name is "mujahidind" which sounds like Indian Mujahideen which is a terrorist outfit that has been involved in many bomb blasts killing innocents and has been banned by India. The outfit has brought bad name to Indian Muslims. Should I ask you if you are a terrorist or a sympathizer of terrorists for choosing such a name?

A person is free to live in India the way he or she wants to live. If a muslim wants to live the way he wants to, he has full freedom to do so and no one can force him to live in a different way. Why do you say there is a conflict between being a muslim and being an Indian? I dont find any and why should i assume things and specially negative things and why do you expect people to answer to your hypothetical questions? You want me to assume something and take a hypothetical side... Do you think people are stupid like you? And what is Uniform Civil Code? Have you seen it? Do you know a single clause of it? Why are you assuming it to be anti muslim? Why you are burning your heart for no reason?

Again your sick mind is bothering you with imaginary issues that is assumed as anti-islamic. You dont have any problem when an Arab country has friendly ties with Israel eg Egypt, Turkey but if India has relations with Israel you think of Islam and expect people to take sides. Let me once again reinforce this in your mind that being a true muslim does not come in way of being a true indian or vice versa. Stop assuming things which does not exist and make yourself an easy fodder for ISIS and bring bad name to Islam.
 
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If you come out of borders all these things look silly to you ..but it has been a universally acknoledged way and we want to show ourself beautifully as a nation ..difference can emerge even if we are single community ..because its built in our system ..Beautiful will be learning to live with difference rather than highliting differences ..Everything requires time to heal ..So called religions which devides people in to different identity is dyeing too ..need time
No. Its not what I mean. I want to say that it should have been a two way system , that means mutual. See for example Razia Sultana's post. A very good post. Its good to have people like her. But unfortunately people are more interested in MIM, Owasis brothers. Here people means a particular community. When the majority remains silent when the sufferers are non-muslim but becomes vocal when sufferers are non muslim, it raises a question. You will see so many protests for Palestine by all the communities. But a particular community remains absent from protest when the perpetrators are muslim like Boko Haram. People even want to join ISIS. That is the problem. This makes the world Polarized. it can be changed if the same community start doing protest against these people. Instead of writing blogs, sending letters and fatwa and saying that " These people are not muslims ...." etc, if they protest, the world will be changed. But I am sorry to say that it will not happen in near future.


Look I am not justifying anything. But its a fact.
 
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No. Its not what I mean. I want to say that it should have been a two way system , that means mutual. See for example Razia Sultana's post. A very good post. Its good to have people like her. But unfortunately people are more interested in MIM, Owasis brothers. Here people means a particular community. When the majority remains silent when the sufferers are non-muslim but becomes vocal when sufferers are non muslim, it raises a question. You will see so many protests for Palestine by all the communities. But a particular community remains absent from protest when the perpetrators are muslim like Boko Haram. People even want to join ISIS. That is the problem. This makes the world Polarized. it can be changed if the same community start doing protest against these people. Instead of writing blogs, sending letters and fatwa and saying that " These people are not muslims ...." etc, if they protest, the world will be changed. But I am sorry to say that it will not happen in near future.


Look I am not justifying anything. But its a fact.
Yes there are people who do not change with big ego and false pride but time will sweep them to corner and they can only repent for wasted energy
 
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you found the loophole in PDF my dear young man. troll the retards..let her be..
Don't poke your nose man! How am I trolling?

@Razia Sultana Good luck! You are a confused soul. Either you are a bollywood brainwashed Muslim or a troll.

You keep ducking the question will you put India above Islam? Cuz most practising Muslims won't that I know.
 
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Don't poke your nose man! How am I trolling?

@Razia Sultana Good luck! You are a confused soul. Either you are a bollywood brainwashed Muslim or a troll.

You keep ducking the question will you put India above Islam? Cuz most practising Muslims won't that I know.

will you put india above islam it seems..razia and mujahid are gonna hash it out on PDF..that 5 star was not good.
 
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