South China Sea tensions

[oct605032048]

If you look at the map you'll find China is sitting above Vietnam. China's head or face is in the north-east, while Guangxi or China's butt is sitting above Hanoi or Vietnem's face.

 

[QDNDVN]

That's because Vietnam's men were invading Cambodia, threatening Laos and Thailand.

There is no evidence that prove Vietnam is threaten to Laos, Cambodia and Thailand. In theory, we invaded Cambodia caused K'me Rough started and massive killing alot of innocent people for both countries [Vietnam-Cambodia]. In fact, after Vietnam troops occupied years in Cambodia also brought Cambodian lives peaceful and no more war, or civil war after VN troops withdraw in Cambodia.

Killing people and specialy for the own kind that could bring any countries to intervene for that country with out any question. More than that, helped Lao, Cambodia are also help Vietnam get close friend and more secure for the good of country.

Unlikely, after Vietnam-China wars repetition Vietnam and China still be a friend and a good neighbor. For this time China already pushed Vietnam away and give Vietnam getting closer to the West which is Vietnam does not want.

Vietnam is a part of Asia, like a son like other sons with Asia mother and want to solve problems in Asia. Seems to me that, at this time Vietnam has to thinking back and find the better solution to resolve problem.

 

[QDNDVN]

If you look at the map you'll find China is sitting above Vietnam. China's head or face is in the north-east, while Guangxi or China's butt is sitting above Hanoi or Vietnem's face.

WTF R U say'n? If you said like that and how about Mongolia, Kazakhstan position? Are they sitting on China head too? What a lame?

 

[oct605032048]

What an excuse! I wonder why Hitler didn't think of that before he invaded Poland.
Of course you bring 'peace' to Cambodia. How can you colonize Cambodia without "peace"?

 

[beijingwalker]

But finally, our women defeated you badly even when you tried your best with US support

haha,you didnt defeat anyone,you lost your land,lost dignity and a whole bunch of POWs held by China,you lost everything in that war.check wikipedia,haha

 

[QDNDVN]

haha ,what a nation send their women to fight wars,if captured,they will suffer more than their male counterparts,so many of them were capture during 1979 by China.personally I m against sending women to wars.

To defend country, even kids who can bear guns then they can fight like a man. That's life! Whatever they could be suffer badly by enemies, they still be heads up and proud of what they done for country. History already proved that!

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What an excuse! I wonder why Hitler didn't think of that before he invaded Poland.
Of course you bring 'peace' to Cambodia. How can you colonize Cambodia without "peace"?

No need to excute but that's fact. You prove me any doccuments realated Vietnam is threaten to Laos, Cambodia and Thai then we can talk. If you don't have it then ......you better get of this topic.

 

[beijingwalker]

Guangxi and Yunnan provinces border vietnam,because they are in the border area,so,economically relatively backward comparing to other provinces,but even that,they both have much bigger GDP than vietnam, almost all Chinese provinces are bigger and of course richer than vietnam,every province can take on one or two small countries like vietnam,and China has 30 provinces.

 

[QDNDVN]

Guangxi and Yunnan provinces border vietnam,because they are in the border area,so,economically relatively backward comparing to other provinces,but even that,they both have much bigger GDP than vietnam, almost all Chinese provinces are bigger and of course richer than vietnam,every province can take on one or two small countries like vietnam,and China has 30 provinces.

That's fact, I can't deny about China richer than Vietnam or even 1 province of China still bigger and richer than Vietnam. Yes, we are smaller than China but tell me what is your point?

Did Vietnam said/admit richer, bigger than China?

 

[beijingwalker]

then stop calling for war,wont do you any good,war is the fight for wealth and overall national strengh in the end,you know what vietnam would've ended up if not for China and Soviets aid and support during the 70s.

 

[QDNDVN]

then stop calling for war,wont do you any good,war is the fight for wealth and overall national strengh in the end,you know what vietnam would've ended up if not for China and Soviets aid and support during the 70s.

WTF you said for war and understanding about war? If China start war with Vietnam, then we Defence and will hurt you badly even though we loose. Read in the history of China you will understand more. How many wars started from China to Vietnam? Does China win win? Gimme a break duh!

Back to the post #53, whatever I asked you coud not answer right? So Vietnam never admit that Bigger and Richer than China for any caused right?

 

[NiceGuy]

haha,you didnt defeat anyone,you lost your land,lost dignity and a whole bunch of POWs held by China,you lost everything in that war.check wikipedia,haha

We lost our land, and we're trying to take back now . CHina lost dignity bcz China could not defeated our women even with supprise attack and also show to the world that she's too weak to protect her ally .

That why N.Korea don't wanna be your ally any more, and Myanmar say 'No' to your Dam project , ' looser can not be a choser'

WTF R U say'n? If you said like that and how about Mongolia, Kazakhstan position? Are they sitting on China head too? What a lame?

No bad word bro, cool off or mod will ban you soon

 

[beijingwalker]

We lost our land, and we're trying to take back now . CHina lost dignity bcz China could not defeated our women even with supprise attack and also show to the world that she's too weak to protect her ally .

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You wanna want?haha,take land from China?are you smoking something too much,come on,dont just talk,come to take it.and all the third party assessment of border war showed that you totally lost the war,much more casualties and much more being captured,China in the end got all its objectives and you leaders had to kowtow to China and came to China to beg China to take the leadership,haha,how pathetic.lol

 

[beijingwalker]

and first North Koreans tested nuclear bombs near China's border,that is something really angered Beijing.China doesnt not really support North Korea because its capricious behavior and its betrayal during the cold war.but still,if not for China.US would've attacked North Korea just like they did in other countries,but because of China,US doesnt dare out of the memory of the bloody nose it got in the Korean war.and if not for China,US would've easily defeated North Vietnam also.
but for USSR,with the treaty with Vietnam,but 1979 the super power did nothing but standing by to see their ally's country to be burned and destroy,that's really some friendship.lol

 

[beijingwalker]

If not for China,Vietnam would've been overrun by US in days.but China also learned a lesson of not supporting ingrates,when should really be on the south side during the war.

Chinese Support for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War: The Decisive Edge

Military History Online - Chinese Support for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War: The Decisive Edge

by Bob Seals

“Best turn it into a bigger war…I’m afraid you really ought to send more troops to the South…Don’t be afraid of U.S. intervention, at most it’s no worse than having another Korean War. The Chinese army is prepared, and if America takes the risk of attacking North Vietnam, the Chinese army will march in at once. Our troops want a war now.”[1]
-- Mao speaking to the North Vietnamese in 1964

So why did the powerful modern nations of France and the United States lose two wars in Vietnam to a third rate military power like North Vietnam? This is the logical question that many historians have asked and attempted to answer since the Second Vietnam War ended in April 1975 with the fall of Saigon to North Vietnamese tanks.

This Chinese military support, to include equipment, advisors and planning assistance, provided from 1949-1975, would prove in both the First and Second Indochina Wars to be decisive. This substantial military support would give the People‘s Army of Vietnam an edge to resist Western forces and eventually subjugate the Republic of South Vietnam. This support, for various reasons, has never really been acknowledged by most popular histories of the conflict. This is perhaps due to the fact that such acknowledgement of the massive Chinese military support provided challenges many cherished myths of Vietnamese Communist military brilliance and the “heroic struggle” against overwhelming western imperialists. Two recent histories bear this out. Case in point A Military History of China, edited by David A. Graff makes no mention of Chinese support for Vietnam while Bruce A. Elleman’s Modern Chinese Warfare, 1795-1989, dismisses Chinese support in a mere two sentences.[3] However, unless this decisive Chinese support is properly understood by students of both Vietnam wars the answer to the question of why North Vietnam won will remain incomplete and misunderstood. This paper will attempt to outline the Chinese communist support in both wars and explain exactly why this support was so decisive.

China communist Party and North Vietnam power signed up agreements about PLA sent troops to Vietnam fight against American imperialist in 1965. At the same year, PLA send air defensive missile force, air defensive artillery, engineering force, railways troops, sweep mine team and shipping fleet and so on support North Vietnam. And carried on battle and supported tasks.
Chia total sent 320,000 troops to support North Vietnam until 1968 March, At the same time, China provided numerous military equipments and battle supplies. Include 170 planes, 140 ships and 500 tanks, 16000 trucks, cannon 37000, 2.16 millions guns ,bullets and shells add up to 12800 millions. In additional to these, and trained 6000 persons and technologists, through Vietnam war ,China gave an huge human power, finance, substance assistances for North Vietnam, count in supplies equality more the 20 billion dollars.

 

[QDNDVN]

If not for China,Vietnam would've been overrun by US in days.but China also learned a lesson of not supporting ingrates,when should really be on the south side during the war.

Dude, stories always are both side and yes, China was big helped Vietnam during Vietnam War with US. Beside the help Vietnam, that also help China too.

US was supported Taiwan and China affraid that could tear China apart like its old day, so whatever it takes, China support all the way from Korea war and Vietnam just like to protect itself.

More than that, China took chance when North and South fighting, China Navy occupied Paracel Islands until now. Battle of the Paracel Islands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

See how nice China HELPED is?

Don't blame Vietnam turned its back to China. If you not nice to us, we will have plans to deal with.That's life.