South China Sea Forum

[52051]

Unfortunately, many of them still do. Things like this though, certainly help the cause!

I am so scared of the naive-ness of the americans then, especially considering the fact how the america become a country in the first place.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

Oh? Seems pretty clear to me. You obviously can write English so what part did you not understand?

Plenty of people can write unintelligible stuffs, like your previous post.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

A Chinese Navy ship stole an American oceanographic underwater drone in the South China Sea approximately 40 miles west of the Philippines and about 150 miles from Scarborough Shoal, an area contested by the Chinese and the Philippines, two U.S. defense officials told Fox News.

The incident occurred around noon Thursday local time. The Chinese ship had been shadowing the American ship, USNS Bowditch for days.

The research ship was owned by the U.S. Navy but operated by Military Sealift Command, with a crew of contracted civilian mariners and scientists.

The Chinese have been regularly shadowing U.S. Navy vessels in the South China Sea for months, Fox News was told.

According to the USNS Bowditch ship's website, the ship is used to "support worldwide oceanography programs, including performing acoustical, biological, physical and geophysical surveys." Fox News was told the underwater drone was used to map the sea floor and other oceanographic data.

The drone was worth roughly $150,000 dollars. After the Chinese vessel plucked the drone out of the water, the American research ship attempted to call the Chinese ship over bridge-to-bridge radio, but to no avail.

The State Department launched a formal protest known as a demarche by the U.S. Ambassador and delivered to the Chinese government today, Fox News was told.

There was no immediate comment from the State Dept when Fox News reached out for comment.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/16/china-steals-us-underwater-drone-in-south-china-sea.html

Really China? So now your stealing drones conducting legitimate scientific research in international waters? Pathetic...

I'm curious。
1, Why US uav in China - PH disputed waters? US said in the vicinity?
2, what is the role of this UAV? Investigation? Intelligence gathering?
3, Why is this happening in China and Philippines when reconciliation?
4,US use this way to interrupt China and PH reconciliation between?
5, If China's CH-5 uav appeared on international waters near the west coast of the United States? what would US do？

Oh US need to let the South China Sea continue to turmoil, help US to the Asia Pacific to transfer troops to provide the excuse, do you think? @F-22Raptor @Desertfalcon @maximuswarrior @BuddhaPalm @BuddhaPalm @beijingwalker

 

[Zhu Rong Zheng Yang]

@SinoSoldier Revealed

The US should respond with sanctions on Chinese businesses or impose higher tariffs. They can't let anybody get away with theft of US property in international waters.

I have been wondering about your origin for a while watching you sabotaged and stabbed PRC in the back with your frequently Derogatory and Snide comments on PRC military hardware in PDF and in that Fake and Pretentious ( Sino Defense Forum ).

AHA, ... ...
Then, suddenly you revealed your origin by changing your avatar with a Hindustan LCA Tejas.
IMO, the < SINO > word on your name is misleading.
Why do you hide your identity behind the word < SINO > and using 2 Canadian Flags ??



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This kind of PLA proactive action is long overdue.
It is time to remind Hegemonic Evil americese and Low Lifer Trump and his supporting slaves that not all Chinese are softies and infected by the weak knees disease.

I hope those weak Chinese slaves in MOFA ( Ministry of Foreign Affairs ) do not sabotage and torpedo the PLAN proactive actions to harass the Hegemonic Evil americese.

All those americese who hate PRC shall be grateful that too many part of PRC are still being controlled by those weak Chinese slaves who are bending over backward to appease and trying very hard to please the Hegemonic Evil usa.



1*) I hope Low Lifer trump try much harder to harass CHINA, thus we can remove all those weak Chinese slaves in MOFA.

2*) And, PRC will have much more proactive policy to arm IRAN and boost RUSSIA strength, and much more proactive economic policy to reward the Pro PRC nations, such as CAMBODIA, BELARUS, SERBIA.

3*) Stop all Chinese businesses in investing in Hegemonic Evil usa and its supporting slave nations, and channel and redirect their investments to RUSSIA, IRAN, CAMBODIA, LAOS, BELARUS, SERBIA, and NORTH KOREA.

 

[Desertfalcon]

I am so scared of the naive-ness of the americans then, especially considering the fact how the america become a country in the first place.

Well, if they are, they are no different than the Chinese posters I encounter here who are utterly oblivious to the nightmare that was Chinese communism up until the reforms of Deng. I don't know how many Chinese PDF posters I've run into who think the tens of millions murdered by their government is fiction, but there you have it; ignorance is bliss, as they say.

 

[Desertfalcon]

Plenty of people can write unintelligible stuffs, like your previous post.

That fact that you still won't answer what I asked, tells me how bogus your initial objection was. You understood it perfectly...you just didn't like it.

 

[Desertfalcon]

USA military-politico-industrial complex is a parasite upon humanity. Gouging it out will serve the greater good even if it means a nuclear attack on USA. The only question is how to make it quick and clean.

I salute you for your honesty, sir.

This is exactly why I posted what I did in this thread.

 

[Penguin]

1. In international waters claimed by China as EEZ
2. There is no UAV but rather a ROV/UUV. Bowditch serves as an oceanographic sampling and data collection of surface, mid-water and ocean floor parameters. Surveys of this nature are required to confirm bottom features and identify navigational hazards i.e. to verify waters are safe for other ships, esp. close to shore. The ship's success lies in the multi-beam contour mapping system, and wide-angle side-scan sonar systems, which continuously collect data over a broad strip of ocean floor. Bowditch also employs two Hydrographic Survey Launches, small boats that use single and multi-beam echo-sounders and streamed side-scan sonar systems to collect data in very shallow regions. http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=77698
3. Good question.
4. How?
5. Nothing much, just inspect it. It would be interesting to see an airborne craft like CH-5 UAV appear in international waters (i.e. 'splash'). Or, put differently, in international airspace.

 

[Penguin]

?!

Bowditch is operated by the Military Sealift Command for the Naval Oceanographic Office, a component of the Naval Meteorology and Oceanography Command headquartered at the Stennis Space Center in Mississippi. Bowditch is one of six Pathfinder-class ships with an all-civilian crew of professional mariners and scientific support personnel.

An unarmed, civilian manned oceanography ship.

Please get rid of UNCLOS. The one who file it even don't care about it anymore.

Beside US themselves ignore UNCLOS jurisdiction when it comes to sovereignty. Your joker should just stay at your own backyard.

US is NOT an UNCLOS signatory. China is. You (don't) sign it, you are (not) bound by it.

 

[patero]

USA are cowards. You will accept New York vaporization and sue for peace. You know it. I know it.

...Chairman Xi knows it.

'It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you.
'

 

[Penguin]

You know according to UNCLOS article 246, you can't conduct "scientific research" in another country's EEZ without the consent of the state even though its considered to be international water. Note only the dark blue area are defined as High Sea where one can freely conduct "scientific research".

If the Phillippines don't object, why can't the Americans? It is the Chinese claiming virtually the entire SCS as their EEZ, well beyond anything normally considered (i.e. 200 nmi from shore)

 

[somsak]

Perhaps the most value things from this underwater drone is DATA and Algorithm.
1. Data: What kind of information this device is gathering.
2. Algorithm: Encoding/encription. Remember Enigma Machine got from Germany's U boat WW2?
Ofcause there are many encoding algorithm being used, but still one type of encoding encryption has lost.

 

[Penguin]

US have used this scientific research as cover since Cold War. CIA is very well known for using those tactics.

BLah blah blah. All navies of any importance have oceanography ships.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Perhaps the most value things from this underwater drone is DATA and Algorithm.
1. Data: What kind of information this device is gathering.
2. Algorithm: Encoding/encription. Remember Enigma Machine got from Germany's U boat WW2?
Ofcause there are many encoding algorithm being used, but still one type of encoding encryption has lost.

It almost reminds me of the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
@Desertfalcon Do you know Gulf of Tonkin incident?

 

[Desertfalcon]

It almost reminds me of the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
@Desertfalcon Do you know Gulf of Tonkin incident?

Of course. Only this time, China is the aggressor and is making up whatever justification they need.