South China Sea Forum

[yusheng]

China publishes 1st official map of Sansha city

A working staff presents the map of Sansha city at Xidan Books Building in Beijing, capital of China, Nov. 24, 2012. The first official map of the newly-established Sansha city in south China's Hainan Province was published on Saturday. (Xinhua/Liu Changlong)

Photo taken on Nov. 24, 2012 shows the map of Sansha city which is for sale at Xidan Books Building in Beijing, capital of China. The first official map of the newly-established Sansha city in south China's Hainan Province was published on Saturday. (Xinhua/Liu Changlong)

A citizen looks through the map of Sansha city at Xidan Books Building in Beijing, capital of China, Nov. 24, 2012. The first official map of the newly-established Sansha city in south China's Hainan Province was published on Saturday. (Xinhua/Liu Changlong)

A man presents the map of Sansha city at Xidan Books Building in Beijing, capital of China, Nov. 24, 2012. The first official map of the newly-established Sansha city in south China's Hainan Province was published on Saturday. (Xinhua/Liu Changlong)

 

[Pak2]

The countries which involve with China just print there own map the problem is done. By doing this acts mean they invide the other countries to treat their bride map like a piece of toilet paper.

 

[NiceGuy]

The countries which involve with China just print there own map the problem is done. By doing this acts mean they invide the other countries to treat their bride map like a piece of toilet paper.

Việt Nam-Phil-Malay-Brunei also have overlapping claims in SCS(east sea), if we do the same like China, then it means ASEAN nations will fight against one another ,too.

Just let's those Chinese happy for few more time.....in 1979 evil China govt. backstabded VN, many Chinese happy and then in 1989 those 'happy' Chinese got massacred in Tienanmen, China govt. had to return our Laosan mountain that they occupied during VN-China war and begged for friendship with Vn after that .

 

[Zheng He]

China is building a massive marine coastguard with multiple surveillance vessels and developing a marine engineering equipment industry to drill for oil & gas. Already the oil drilling rig 981 is in operation.
With Hu Jintao saying China should be a maritime power, you can bet he PLAN will get new naval platforms in the near future. I expect more carriers, nuclear submarines, LHDs and other power projecting platforms to be under development as we speak.

China already built Sansha City. I expect more things like this. Others can bark all they want, but without advanced drilling equipment to look for oil & gas, without marine surveillance vessels and without big naval power.....Vietnam and Philippines are absolutely powerless to stop China.

With the 2nd largest economy and 2nd largest military budget, China can pour absolutely ENORMOUS resources of all types to secure the South China Sea. Competing with China in China's own back yard with the resources China currently has and will have In the future is one of the most pointless exercises there is.

As time goes by, China's hold on the South China Sea will only increase as China gains more capabilities. Making the issue international will not stop China, it will just make China more determined and push hardliners into power positions.

 

[Rechoice]

China is building a massive marine coastguard with multiple surveillance vessels and developing a marine engineering equipment industry to drill for oil & gas. Already the oil drilling rig 981 is in operation.
With Hu Jintao saying China should be a maritime power, you can bet he PLAN will get new naval platforms in the near future. I expect more carriers, nuclear submarines, LHDs and other power projecting platforms to be under development as we speak.

China already built Sansha City. I expect more things like this. Others can bark all they want, but without advanced drilling equipment to look for oil & gas, without marine surveillance vessels and without big naval power.....Vietnam and Philippines are absolutely powerless to stop China.

With the 2nd largest economy and 2nd largest military budget, China can pour absolutely ENORMOUS resources of all types to secure the South China Sea. Competing with China in China's own back yard with the resources China currently has and will have In the future is one of the most pointless exercises there is.

As time goes by, China's hold on the South China Sea will only increase as China gains more capabilities. Making the issue international will not stop China, it will just make China more determined and push hardliners into power positions.

Chinese guardship ran away from our sea.

 

[Viet]

More maps back claim over island sovereignty
Updated November, 26 2012 10:28:00 | Vietnam News

One of 90 maps that have been donated to central Da Nang City, indicating the Hoang Sa and Truong Sa belong to Viet Nam. The map, printed by Prevost Bellin in Germany in 1747, shows the southern extent of China as being Hainan Island. — Photo Courtesy of Tran Thang


DA NANG (VNS)— The central city of Da Nang has received a collection of 90 maps published between 1826 and 1980, 10 of which indicate the Hoang Sa (Paracel) and Truong Sa (Spratly) archipelagoes belong to Viet Nam, the chairman of the city's Hoang Sa District People's Committee, Dang Cong Ngu, told Viet Nam News yesterday.

"We have invited historians, archaeologists, lawyers and researchers to evaluate the collection before making it public," Ngu said. "The collection has been preserved with strict precautions and is significant evidence that the two archipelagoes belong to Viet Nam."

The donor, Institute for Vietnamese Culture and Education (IVCE) director Tran Thang, said by email yesterday that he had travelled to the US, England and Poland between July and October to collect the old maps, using his own funds and some from his friends.

"It cost US$12,000 to buy the collection," he told Viet Nam News via email. "I'm still searching for more maps to donate a more perfect collection to Da Nang in the future."

He spent $8,000 to buy two books of Postal Atlas Maps of China which were published by the Directorate General of Posts of the Ministry of Transportation of the Republic of China in 1919 (consisting of 49 maps) and in 1933 (29 maps), as well as one Atlas of the Chinese Empire, published by the China Inland Mission in 1909 (23 maps). None of the three books list Hoang Sa and Truong Sa in the maps or index pages. Hoang Sa District plans to display the collection during Sea and Islands Week in Khanh Hoa Province next April. — VNS

 

[Viet]

China is building a massive marine coastguard with multiple surveillance vessels and developing a marine engineering equipment industry to drill for oil & gas. Already the oil drilling rig 981 is in operation.
With Hu Jintao saying China should be a maritime power, you can bet he PLAN will get new naval platforms in the near future. I expect more carriers, nuclear submarines, LHDs and other power projecting platforms to be under development as we speak.

China already built Sansha City. I expect more things like this. Others can bark all they want, but without advanced drilling equipment to look for oil & gas, without marine surveillance vessels and without big naval power.....Vietnam and Philippines are absolutely powerless to stop China.

With the 2nd largest economy and 2nd largest military budget, China can pour absolutely ENORMOUS resources of all types to secure the South China Sea. Competing with China in China's own back yard with the resources China currently has and will have In the future is one of the most pointless exercises there is.

As time goes by, China's hold on the South China Sea will only increase as China gains more capabilities. Making the issue international will not stop China, it will just make China more determined and push hardliners into power positions.

Enjoy you ban, you fool!

If you and some Chinese warmongers haven´t noticed, we have strengthened our defence capability along the entire coast, all potential enemy warships risk deadly encounter such as with our SS-N-26 Yakhont supersonic cruise missles!

The Yakhont cruise missile is a highly accurate Russian weapon with a 300-kilometer range, capable of carrying a warhead of up to 200 kilograms.

 

[S10]

Enjoy you ban, you fool!

If you and some Chinese warmongers haven´t noticed, we have strengthened our defence capability along the entire coast, all potential enemy warships risk deadly encounter such as with our SS-N-26 Yakhont supersonic cruise missles!

The Yakhont cruise missile is a highly accurate Russian weapon with a 300-kilometer range, capable of carrying a warhead of up to 200 kilograms.

Would an adult man be afraid of a child wielding a butter knife? Hoping one missile will keep you safe is a sure sign of weakness. In the age of network-centric warfare, Vietnam stands no chance against China militarily.

 

[Viet]

Would an adult man be afraid of a child wielding a butter knife? Hoping one missile will keep you safe is a sure sign of weakness. In the age of network-centric warfare, Vietnam stands no chance against China militarily.

Yakhont can sink your cheap carrier in one shot.

In theory, we have no chance against China. But do you have any idea, why we kicked your a... constantly? Learn the history!

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

Would an adult man be afraid of a child wielding a butter knife? Hoping one missile will keep you safe is a sure sign of weakness. In the age of network-centric warfare, Vietnam stands no chance against China militarily.

A boy big, fat and bullying that does not mean he is an adult man.

 

[S10]

Yakhont can sink your cheap carrier in one shot.

In theory, we have no chance against China. But do you have any idea, why we kicked your a... constantly? Learn the history!

How are you going to aquire target when your radars are jammed and your communication are shut down? How do you intend to provide mid-way guidance to your toy missile? How do you intend to get through layers of air defence to reach the carrier? Let's just ignore all that like you Viets usually do, claiming one Yakhont can sink a carrier is beyond stupid, even for your standards.

History? Do you mean?

1. You being colonized by us for over a 1000 years?
2. All that captured border area we still hold back from 1979?
3. The islands we captured in 1988?

You no more kicked our *** than you did to the Americans. Just because we decided it's not worth the trouble of holding your country down, does not mean you "kicked ***". It's like someone is getting tired of beating you up, and then you claim victory for not dying.

A boy big, fat and bullying that does not mean he is an adult man.

Do test us and see what happens. Everytime we send our aircraft down to South China Sea you guys run faster than rats.

 

[Rechoice]

How are you going to aquire target when your radars are jammed and your communication are shut down? How do you intend to provide mid-way guidance to your toy missile? How do you intend to get through layers of air defence to reach the carrier? Let's just ignore all that like you Viets usually do, claiming one Yakhont can sink a carrier is beyond stupid, even for your standards.

History? Do you mean?

1. You being colonized by us for over a 1000 years?
2. All that captured border area we still hold back from 1979?
3. The islands we captured in 1988?

You no more kicked our *** than you did to the Americans. Just because we decided it's not worth the trouble of holding your country down, does not mean you "kicked ***". It's like someone is getting tired of beating you up, and then you claim victory for not dying.


Do test us and see what happens. Everytime we send our aircraft down to South China Sea you guys run faster than rats.

Look at yourself first who controlled you in the past.
Hey, here chinese ship ran out very fast like rats.

 

[applesauce]

sigh..

its has a 300 km range and is land based, china doesnt even need its navy to invade vietnam as there is a fairly long land boarder, if we're fighting over the islands yakhont is going to be useless cause the islands are much more than 300 kms away from vietnam mainland.

 

[S10]

Look at yourself first who controlled you in the past.
Hey, here chinese ship ran out very fast like rats.

We've been your masters, while I can't say the same for the other way around. The video only proves Viets only engage when you see a civilian agency, while you flee faster than rats everytime we send out military patrol.

 

[Rechoice]

sigh..

its has a 300 km range and is land based, china doesnt even need its navy to invade vietnam as there is a fairly long land boarder, if we're fighting over the islands yakhont is going to be useless cause the islands are much more than 300 kms away from vietnam mainland.

Yakhont can destroy the ship in distance far way more than 300 km, that why Yakhont was choiced for our Navy.