South China Sea Forum

[Viet]

I think is the other way round. Shark fin is one of the Chinese delicacy in China.

I know. A true Chinese eats everything that moves, and things that don´t move, either.

 

[djsjs]

I know. A true Chinese eats everything that moves, and things that don´t move, either.

Hey!almost everyone here knows what we eat,but only Chinese know what you eat.
anyway ,l like the poem in the picture,especially the first sentence,南国(south country) is named with central empire as the reference system,and the 南帝(south king) are mostly Chinese,in fact the nobles are mostly Chinese too,only the poor are Vietnamnese.

 

[Viet]

Hey!almost everyone here knows what we eat,but only Chinese know what you eat.
anyway ,l like the poem in the picture,especially the first sentence,南国(south country) is named with central empire as the reference system,and the 南帝(south king) are mostly Chinese,in fact the nobles are mostly Chinese too,only the poor are Vietnamnese.

Well, tradionally Vietnam sees China as Central Kingdom or North Empire, while it sees itself as South Kingdom. Not poor Vietnamese. Where do you get: south Kings were mostly Chinese, and the nobles Chinese, too?

Lý Thường Kiệt (1019–1105)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ly_Thuong_Kiet

Vietnam’s first Declaration of Independence

Nam quốc sơn hà Nam đế cư,
Tiệt nhiên định phận tại thiên thư.
Như hà nghịch lỗ lai xâm phạm,
Nhữ đẳng hành khan thủ bại hư.

Over Mountains and Rivers of the South, reigns the Emperor of the South
As it stands written forever in the Book of Heaven
How dare those barbarians invade our land?
Your armies, without pity, will be annihilated.

 

[Srinivas]

@Viet are those Islands under Vietnam jurisdiction according to UNCLOS?

 

[shuttler]

No rich Chinese will risk their lives to travel to those dispute islands coz they may get headshot by our fishermen fishing aroud there

vietcong pirates dressing up as fishermen trying to commit homicide(s) on innocent tourists in Chinese waters!

He's a troller, don't bother by him...

Vietnam and China are friends.

3 Chinese navy ships visit Vietnam - People's Daily Online

We have to sort out friends from villains. The vietcong pirates have to be caught and punished

 

[djsjs]

@Viet
didnt your history teacher tell you that the kings of Nhà Hậu Lý were Fujianese descendants？
in fact even your family name were from China.

 

[shuttler]

I think we will stage another street protest before the Chinese embassy in Berlin!
http://www.unser-vietnam.de/images/stories/ereignisreich/Demo_Berlin_01.10.2011/7.jpg[/IMG]

Were you there amongst the revelers? It looks like less than 100 trouble makers there!

Nice adoption of our civilzation!

I know. A true Chinese eats everything that moves, and things that don´t move, either.

So to become our enemy, you do the opposite to ours:

vietcongs eat everything that doesnt move, and things that move either?

 

[longyi]

The only hotel on disputed SCS

Only hotel on disputed Paracels

 

[Rechoice]

China is a dirty sea pirate.

 

[NiceGuy]

He's a troller, don't bother by him...

Vietnam and China are friends.

3 Chinese navy ships visit Vietnam - People's Daily Online

You see the Vietnam government even welcome Chinese warship to Ho Chin Mn City and greet us with cheers!

If you come to VN with goodwill, of course we will welcome you, that's normal. But if you try to mess up wt us, then we will teach you another lesson after 1979

 

[NiceGuy]

Two critical facts

1. The islands and seas within China's nine-dashed-lines map were discovered and claimed by China 2,000 years ago. China was the first discoverer and claimant of the South China Seas.

You can read about China's historical claims to the South China Seas over the last 2,000 years in the Chinese imperial dynastic records. There are also plenty of Chinese shipwrecks, buried bones, and buried artifacts (including wells) within the nine-dashed-lines map. China was there first and it belongs to them.

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Poor loser, try to fool himself like Ah Q, if you have enough evidence, then go to International court and talk, don't talk crap here

China refuses to participate in South China Sea arbitration

He noted that continuation of the proceedings will require China to defend the nine-dash line as a singular exception to the system of maritime zones established by UNCLOS.

“Most scholars agree that the nine-dash line is indefensible in international law, and is precisely the kind of exaggerated maritime claim that UNCLOS was designed to suppress. The inherent weakness of the position is therefore a serious disincentive for China,” he said.
CHINA REFUSES TO PARTICIPATE IN SOUTH CHINA SEA ARBITRATION - Asia Pacific Defense Forum in English

2. Among the South China Sea claimants, only one of the countries has a real navy (see videos below).

Combining points #1 (e.g. only China is the legitimate owner) and #2 (e.g. only China has the naval power to back its claims), it is clear that only China can claim sovereignty over the South China Seas.

Your cheap and low quality navy have No use in real combat. All kind of your warship can be sunk easily with our Shaddockm Yakhont, just forget the idea abt intercepting our anti-ship missile, we just simply shoot more missile than your anti-anti ship missile in your warship, then it surely wil be sunk

Game over for cheap and low quality PLAN, if you dont belive in what I said, then feel free to join in your PLAN and fight with VN, you can be the first one sunk with your cheap warship

 

[armchairPrivate]

I strongly suggest those Viet Minhs such as NiceGuy and whatnots book a cruise to the XIsha Islands and have a grant time. If you catch a fish or two, I assure you the Chinese would not fire on you.

 

[cirr]

100kg TNT + 100kg TNT = 200 Kg TNT, sure enough.

I hear the sound of a loser crying。

 

[Martian2]

I've been busy on Bloomberg (see last paragraph and citation below). I've made my presence felt in the mainstream media. What have you Viet nationalists accomplished lately besides trash-talking on this forum?

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China's 2006 declared exemption from UNCLOS with regard to maritime boundaries

China

"China exempted itself in 2006 from disputes that involve sea boundaries, historic bays, military activities or initiatives of the UN Security Council."

Declarations or Statements upon UNCLOS ratification

"China

[Original: Chinese]

Upon ratification (7 June 1996)1/:

In accordance with the decision of the Standing Committee of the Eighth National People's Congress of the People's Republic of China at its nineteenth session, the President of the People's Republic of China has hereby ratified the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea of 10 December 1982 and at the same time made the following statement:

1. In accordance with the provisions of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, the People's Republic of China shall enjoy sovereign rights and jurisdiction over an exclusive economic zone of 200 nautical miles and the continental shelf.

2. The People's Republic of China will effect, through consultations, the delimitation of the boundary of the maritime jurisdiction with the States with coasts opposite or adjacent to China respectively on the basis of international law and in accordance with the principle of equitability.

3. The People's Republic of China reaffirms its sovereignty over all its archipelagos and islands as listed in article 2 of the Law of the People's Republic of China on the territorial sea and the contiguous zone, which was promulgated on 25 February 1992.

4. The People's Republic of China reaffirms that the provisions of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea concerning innocent passage through the territorial sea shall not prejudice the right of a coastal State to request, in accordance with its laws and regulations, a foreign State to obtain advance approval from or give prior notification to the coastal State for the passage of its warships through the territorial sea of the coastal State.

Declaration made after ratification (25 August 2006)

Declaration under article 298:

The Government of the People's Republic of China does not accept any of the procedures provided for in Section 2 of Part XV of the Convention with respect to all the categories of disputes referred to in paragraph 1 (a) (b) and (c) of Article 298 of the Convention."

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My comment on Bloomberg:

"Martin Su 3 minutes ago

UNCLOS has two serious problems.

1. The United States has refused to ratify UNCLOS (ie. UN Convention on the Law of the Sea). Therefore, UNCLOS is not international law.

2. China has arguably the world's second-strongest navy. China has publicly proclaimed it does not recognize UNCLOS jurisdiction over China's maritime boundaries.

In conclusion, the world's two most powerful maritime nations do not recognize UNCLOS authority over maritime law or boundaries. Hence, UNCLOS is not international law and it is only mere guidelines recognized by weak countries."

Reference link: China

 

[cirr]

5418-tonne “MSA 01” undergoing last trials before her maiden voyage to Australia：

It won't be long before dilapidated vessels of a certain monkey are chased、banished or detained by this beauty on the open SCS。