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Some thoughts about China's nuclear expansion

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nope but you made my point. exactly what a mental midget would write lol. Did daddy never treat you right that why you never grew up mentally into a functional adult?

You sound mad. Like really mad.
 
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You sound mad. Like really mad.
lol your angry at your dad not me. I just opened the eyes of everyone on this forum to you being a 55year old with a temperament of a 14year old troll. U gonna keep doing the 14 year old replies like U mad Bro?! Or you gonna sit there counting your food stamps haha
 
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lol your angry at your dad not me. I just opened the eyes of everyone on this forum to you being a 55year old with a temperament of a 14year old troll. U gonna keep doing the 14 year old replies like U mad Bro?! Or you gonna sit there counting your food stamps haha

You really mad bro?
 
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You really mad bro?
Hahaha everyone just realised how sad your life is 'bro'. 55 year old with the mental faculties of a 14 year old troll. How sad is a 55year old acting like a teenage troll? bruh your so sad it makes me sad that i am even wasting time posting. Its like doing charity work communicating with a lonely 55year old autistic loser. Anyways thanks for showing everyone what a 55year old posting like a 14 year old looks like hahaha
 
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Hahaha everyone just realised how sad your life is 'bro'. 55 year old with the mental faculties of a 14 year old troll. How sad is a 55year old acting like a teenage troll? bruh your so sad it makes me sad that i am even wasting time posting. Its like doing charity work communicating with a lonely 55year old autistic loser. Anyways thanks for showing everyone what a 55year old posting like a 14 year old looks like hahaha

You still mad bro?
 
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That's exactly what I said. Other than building the more "flexible" 2nd strike force in recent decades, in parallel China has been refurnishing weaponry exclusive for 1st strike, namely the silo-based ICBM, with new ABM penetration techs. In fact China even seems to be picking up momentum in expanding this 1st strike exclusive force. The rationale of doing so is exactly like what you've mentioned: NFU (No First Use) diplomacy, which is a war deterrence, may fail has to go for 1st strike. In fact there's another scenario that also prompts the use of 1st strike: when China has enough confidence in launching unstoppable strikes while at the same time possess capability to neutralize all incoming threats, i.e. no MAD but unilateral destruction of US. You're right, I don't see much of US population can survive China's 2nd strike, let alone 1st strike. Ground invasion will clear the rest.
Nor China, nor US will first strike from stationary launch positions. Think why.

Submarines are a much sure solution, and are genuinely scary military-wise. Soviets put ICBMs almost on the Chinese borders during sixties fully knowing that Mao was no fan of them, just because they had very poor early warning, and they didn't expect that electronics will advance so fast to allow EWRs/satellites to get so good in less than a decade. Otherwise they would've put them right on the norther shore. They later put bombers there though.

Carriers are peanuts in comparison to even a few generations old missile sub.
You don't seem to get it.

If the military is still intact and relatively untouched after the said "first strike," the power on the receiving end can easily use their arsenal to destroy the force of the opponent in a land invasion by using their nukes in a counter-force move.

Aka, this means one can easily win after someone "counter-value" first strikes you.

This means counter-value is a worthless tactic in the real world.

After your edit it's clear you are simply a propaganda bot instead of someone that knows anything about nuclear strategy.

You all repeat the same thing no matter how obviously wrong it is in nuclear strategy.

I'm done wasting my time talking to someone that will never understand.

WW3 will start with nukes, and end with trench warfare.
 
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There is no way any war today will ever end with just nuclear warfare. I am very sure, a case of early decapitation will only prolong the conflict when there is puny politicians suing for peace after first sabre rattling. The entirety of military doctrines of nuclear powers were built around surviving the nuclear strike, and continuing fighting, and at least some percentage of the multi-million strong force will do just that. On top of that, the designated continuity governments which will assume control in case political leadership will be taken out will be the military, and almost certainly the most reliable, and thick headed part of it picked solely for them being able to carry orders exactly as they are told.

Now, to the argument of @Communism . China is by far the only country which can even remotely consider "taking first strike" as an option. Nor Russian, nor US first strike will diminish even a quarter of China's industrial output. It physically cannot. Even tiny villages in China have steel mills, and power stations that will dwarf most American ones.

Nor US, nor Russia simply has enough warheads. Nukes are far from ultimate weapons. All nukes ever made by mankind taken together have less metatons than a few hundred meters asteroid, or a magnitude 9 earthquake. Even with big 4 cities somehow completely takes off the map, China will have quite a bit more industrial capacity than US+NATO.

The next thing after this disastrous scenario happens will be PLA generals coming out of their bunkers in the mountains, putting little pinks like beast, and beijingwalkers on a first seaworthy bathtub, and sending them into your direction.

Moreover, with most of country's educated elites living in megacities dead, there will be completely nobody to rebuild the political leadership, let alone negotiate with you. Our generals will have no problem making the populace eat grass if needed, for as long as needed, they after all demonstrated this capacity just 40 years ago.

Will American generals be able to the same? No
 
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