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Some Pakistani industries view India trade with alarm.
By Augustine Anthony

ISLAMABAD | Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:41am EDT

Oct 27 (Reuters) - Efforts by longtime nuclear-armed foes Pakistan and India to liberalise their restrictive trade regimes have sent jitters across some Pakistani sectors which feel threatened by free trade with the neighbouring economic powerhouse.

Pakistan's Commerce Ministry is in the process of increasing the number of goods India can export to its neighbour. But some industries like pharmaceuticals feel cheap Indian goods will ravage local producers.

"There will be a sudden downfall," said Riaz Hussain, General Secretary of the Pakistan Pharmaceutical Manufacturers' Association. He says the local industry is worth $1.64 billion and produces 90 percent of the drugs for the domestic market.

"They will flood the market ... We feel that all finished products should be on the negative list," he said referring to a list of banned Indian goods.

The textile industry, which accounts for nearly 60 percent of Pakistan's exports, is also worried.

"We are particularly concerned about synthetic fibre and synthetic made-ups that should be on the negative list," said Mohsin Aziz, chairman of the All Pakistan Textile Manufacturers' Association.

"We are with the government on this but we can't open everything," said Abdul Waheed Khan, Director General of the Karachi-based Pakistan Automotive Manufacturers' Association.

"The system should not be put into a sudden shock."

But in addition to some domestic opposition in Pakistan, there are other concerns. While India granted Pakistan Most Favoured Nation status in 1996, Pakistan has yet to reciprocate.

Pakistan Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar said recently a decision had been taken "in principle" to accord MFN status to India, but officials say that should go hand in hand with New Delhi removing non-trade barriers against Pakistan goods.

Pakistan has long complained that Indian quality standards and customs procedures have hindered the flow of Pakistani goods into India.

Of the $1.4 billion in trade recorded in 2009/10, Indian exports to Pakistan stood at $1.2 billion while Pakistan exports totalled $268 million, according to official data.

And the economic disparity is stark. Pakistan reported 2.4 percent growth in gross domestic product in fiscal year 2010-11 while India reported 8.5 percent growth.

Since the 1960s, when Pakistan was an Asian tiger economy and India a basket case, India's economy has swelled to $1.06 trillion, more than eight times the size of Pakistan's $207 billion.

POLITICAL ISSUES

Trade has long been tied to political issues between the hostile neighbours, which have fought three wars since independence from Britain in 1947, two over Kashmir, the disputed Himalayan region at the heart of the their decades-old enmity.

Trade ties were severed after the second war in 1965 and have yet to recover fully.

But despite the challenges, the two now appear more keen to remove barriers to trade and the two countries' commerce ministries say trade could easily triple in three years.

India last month dropped opposition to EU tariff cuts offered to Pakistan on its textile goods in the wake of 2010's devastating floods, a move hailed by Islamabad as a big confidence-building measure by New Delhi.

Both sides are close on an accord for a more liberal business visa regime following an agreement to boost trade through at the Atari-Wagah border crossing by increasing trading hours and speeding cargo clearance.

Pakistan currently allows only 1,946 items from India, including things like cosmetics and spices.

But most aren't traded directly. Only 109 goods are allowed through Atari-Wagah, while the bulk is channelled via third countries such as Dubai and Singapore, slowing deliveries and increasing costs.

Restrictions and freight cost have encouraged smuggling in items like tyres and machine parts across their border and also through Afghanistan. Analysts estimate the smuggling at up to $2 billion, more than the legal trade.

A new list of items being prepared by the Pakistani Commerce Ministry would replace the current list of tradable items with a much smaller list of banned items. The list is still being negotiated.

FLURRY OF ACTIVITY

All this follows a flurry of trade meetings this year, including the first trip by a Pakistani commerce minister to India in more than three decades. Their commerce sectaries will meet next month, likely in New Delhi, for their second meeting this year.

Hopes are that progress in trade ties would help bolster a fragile peace process, which the two resumed in February. India broke off talks after the November 2008 attack on Mumbai by Pakistan-based militants who killed 166 people.

The United States has also been pushing Pakistan and India to improve relations, including trade ties, which it sees as vital for a stable South Asian region and helping a troubled transition in Afghanistan as foreign troops begin to withdraw.

"There is an express wish today to deepen the economic engagement, which will be both rewarding for Pakistan and India," Indian Trade Minister Anand Sharma told Reuters on Tuesday.

Some Pakistani businessman could not agree more.

"The poor masses of both the countries will get great benefit from the free trade between India and Pakistan," said S.M. Muneer, the president of the Karachi-based India-Pakistan Chamber of Commerce and Industry. (Additional reporting Matthias Willaim in New Delhi; Editing by Chris Allbritton)

FEATURE-Some Pakistani industries view India trade with alarm | Reuters
 
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India gave Pakistan Most Favoured Nation status in 1996, Pakistan has yet to reciprocate.

Pakistan Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar said recently a decision had been taken "in principle" to accord MFN status to India, but officials say that should go hand in hand with New Delhi removing non-trade barriers against Pakistan goods.

First reciprocate with a MFN status and the removal of non trade barriers will come off when Pakistan does the same.
 
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An article in a similar vein.


Why Pakistani industries fear trade with India
Reuters / Islamabad October 27, 2011, 10:39 IST

Efforts by longtime nuclear-armed foes Pakistan and India to liberalise their restrictive trade regimes have sent jitters across some Pakistani sectors which feel threatened by free trade with the neighbouring economic powerhouse.

Pakistan's Commerce Ministry is in the process of increasing the number of goods India can export to its neighbour. But some industries like pharmaceuticals feel cheap Indian goods will ravage local producers.

"There will be a sudden downfall," said Riaz Hussain, General Secretary of the Pakistan Pharmaceutical Manufacturers' Association. He says the local industry is worth $1.64 billion and produces 90% of the drugs for the domestic market.
"They will flood the market ... We feel that all finished products should be on the negative list," he said referring to a list of banned Indian goods.

The textile industry, which accounts for nearly 60% of Pakistan's exports, is also worried.

"We are particularly concerned about synthetic fibre and synthetic made-ups that should be on the negative list," said Mohsin Aziz, chairman of the All Pakistan Textile Manufacturers' Association.

"We are with the government on this but we can't open everything," said Abdul Waheed Khan, Director General of the Karachi-based Pakistan Automotive Manufacturers' Association.

"The system should not be put into a sudden shock."

But in addition to some domestic opposition in Pakistan, there are other concerns. While India granted Pakistan Most Favoured Nation status in 1996, Pakistan has yet to reciprocate.

Pakistan Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar said recently a decision had been taken "in principle" to accord MFN status to India, but officials say that should go hand in hand with New Delhi removing non-trade barriers against Pakistan goods.

Pakistan has long complained that Indian quality standards and customs procedures have hindered the flow of Pakistani goods into India.

Of the $1.4 billion in trade recorded in 2009/10, Indian exports to Pakistan stood at $1.2 billion while Pakistan exports totalled $268 million, according to official data.

And the economic disparity is stark. Pakistan reported 2.4% growth in gross domestic product in fiscal year 2010-11 while India reported 8.5% growth.

Since the 1960s, when Pakistan was an Asian tiger economy and India a basket case, India's economy has swelled to $1.06 trillion, more than eight times the size of Pakistan's $207 billion.

POLITICAL ISSUES

Trade has long been tied to political issues between the hostile neighbours, which have fought three wars since independence from Britain in 1947, two over Kashmir, the disputed Himalayan region at the heart of the their decades-old enmity.

Trade ties were severed after the second war in 1965 and have yet to recover fully.

But despite the challenges, the two now appear more keen to remove barriers to trade and the two countries' commerce ministries say trade could easily triple in three years.

India last month dropped opposition to EU tariff cuts offered to Pakistan on its textile goods in the wake of 2010's devastating floods, a move hailed by Islamabad as a big confidence-building measure by New Delhi.

Both sides are close on an accord for a more liberal business visa regime following an agreement to boost trade through at the Atari-Wagah border crossing by increasing trading hours and speeding cargo clearance.

Pakistan currently allows only 1,946 items from India, including things like cosmetics and spices.

But most aren't traded directly. Only 109 goods are allowed through Atari-Wagah, while the bulk is channelled via third countries such as Dubai and Singapore, slowing deliveries and increasing costs.

Restrictions and freight cost have encouraged smuggling in items like tyres and machine parts across their border and also through Afghanistan. Analysts estimate the smuggling at up to $2 billion, more than the legal trade.

A new list of items being prepared by the Pakistani Commerce Ministry would replace the current list of tradable items with a much smaller list of banned items. The list is still being negotiated.

FLURRY OF ACTIVITY

All this follows a flurry of trade meetings this year, including the first trip by a Pakistani commerce minister to India in more than three decades. Their commerce sectaries will meet next month, likely in New Delhi, for their second meeting this year.

Hopes are that progress in trade ties would help bolster a fragile peace process, which the two resumed in February. India broke off talks after the November 2008 attack on Mumbai by Pakistan-based militants who killed 166 people.

The United States has also been pushing Pakistan and India to improve relations, including trade ties, which it sees as vital for a stable South Asian region and helping a troubled transition in Afghanistan as foreign troops begin to withdraw.

"There is an express wish today to deepen the economic engagement, which will be both rewarding for Pakistan and India," Indian Trade Minister Anand Sharma told Reuters on Tuesday.

Some Pakistani businessman could not agree more.

"The poor masses of both the countries will get great benefit from the free trade between India and Pakistan," said S.M. Muneer, the president of the Karachi-based India-Pakistan Chamber of Commerce and Industry.
 
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Trade should be allowed but not at the expense of local industry. Also political relations between the two are not that strong yet so free trade will take time. Zardari should open his eyes and protect local industry rather putting all efforts in pleasing his masters.
Pakistan comes first.
 
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Trade should be allowed but not at the expense of local industry. Also political relations between the two are not that strong yet so free trade will take time. Zardari should open his eyes and protect local industry rather putting all efforts in pleasing his masters.
Pakistan comes first.

When the local industry comes first then you create monopolies and inefficient ecosystems that bring down value for your buck. I agree that the trade barriers should be removed over time by I disagree that the local industry should be shielded against competition.
 
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Trade should be allowed but not at the expense of local industry. Also political relations between the two are not that strong yet so free trade will take time. Zardari should open his eyes and protect local industry rather putting all efforts in pleasing his masters.
Pakistan comes first.

Stop importing chinese goods then.. Pakistan should either give india access to its market or loose access to indian market.
even if pakistan gives access to its markets to indian traders in exchange for indian market for its goods pakistan its the beneficiary as india is 15 times bigger market than pakistan. In business there is only give and take.
 
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Let us say for once that the local industry will be affected.And it is true, such a massive influx will affect the industry.
But if the industry is so fragile in its current state then it is not worth protecting in the first place.

The local industry will also learn from the Indian industry, that is inevitable.It will make competition fierce and will improve the business processes of your industry, thus making your industries more mature. Ofcourse such maturity will come at a price, and that is a price you have to pay if you want to make your businesses more relevant in these times.

Nothing will be got from sitting inside a well, you must jump into the ocean and learn new tricks.Well-handled liberalization always generate benefits, for the industry as well as the consumer, albeit with short term losses. I wish you have to foresight to look ahead and not be unrealistically protectionist.
 
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I seriously doubt whether trade with India would cripple the pakistan industries. If they can withstand the inflow of goods from China and still run their businesses, they can easily withstand India. There is no advantage for a business person in India gets compares to one in Pakistan. Or am i missing something?

Thanks.
 
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Trade should be allowed but not at the expense of local industry. Also political relations between the two are not that strong yet so free trade will take time. Zardari should open his eyes and protect local industry rather putting all efforts in pleasing his masters.
Pakistan comes first.

You'll be getting the same deal and worse if you go too cosy commercially with the Chinese. China produces 5 times more than what even we produce. Meaning that you'd be getting the same deal. Tonnes of Chinese made goods will flood your local markets in a matter of days. Pharmaceuticals, machinery, tools, hardware, electronics, communication devices, clothes, raw materials, finished consumables... you name it. With its powerful manufacturing, China can easily drown your market in a matter of months.

The only difference here in your opinion would be that we're your enemies and Chinese are "brothers". But let me tell you this; when it comes to hardcore business, money is the best friend, brother and partner. This is how trade is a tool of war. Your local industries are finished already if you're thinking that by avoiding us you're saved. Your local industries started their destruction the day you signed free trade agreement with China as well.

Either ramp up local production through knowledge economy structure and massive manufacturing integration, or just close down local businesses and let our and Chinese goods run Pakistani markets.
 
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ISLAMABAD, Oct 27 (Reuters) - Efforts by longtime nuclear-armed foes Pakistan and India to liberalise their restrictive trade regimes have sent jitters across some Pakistani sectors which feel threatened by free trade with the neighbouring economic powerhouse.
Pakistan's Commerce Ministry is in the process of increasing the number of goods India can export to its neighbour. But some industries like pharmaceuticals feel Affordable Indian goods will ravage local producers.
I think its better to use Affordable here then cheap....
 
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You are just thinking like we thought before 1991. I want to say to all my pakistani friend, our economy was like your, we thouhgt globalization will kill our domestic industry but it didn't happen but thing goes beyond our expectation. We were bankrupt in 1990 but now look at us out economy is growing at double digit rate.

When your indutries compete with other than your industries will also improve!
 
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Judging by the reactions there are many lobbies against India-Pakistan trade. Ranging from Kashmir to local industry issues.
Lets see what happens in the future. Whether MFN is granted or not?
 
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The open smuggling of Indian goods, allowed by Zardari regime have already destroyed Pakistan industry in last three years.

I think this govt. has done so much damage to Pakistan industry, that India could not have achieved it in any other possible way.

This govt. has tried its best to close Pakistan industry or raise the cost of doing business in Pakistan, so that shortage fall be met with imports from India.
 
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Judging by the reactions there are many lobbies against India-Pakistan trade. Ranging from Kashmir to local industry issues.
Lets see what happens in the future. Whether MFN is granted or not?

You don't deserve it... sorry to say no cheaters deserve it!

Pakistan market is flooded with Indian goods and local industry is suffering due to this unfair competition and all of the workforce which is connected to industry.

We need answers.. how indians goods are being imported in such a large quantity... it never happened before.

We also need to know, what is govts. plan to make Pakistan industry more competitive.
 
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