Sneak preview of pragmatic China policy

[FairAndUnbiased]

I know there are widely-existed discrmination on Eastern border Indians looks like Chinese.
Afterall, they are Tibetans. MacMahon line is drawn by British Raj, from Tibet local government, at that time, China lost control over whole Tibet.
IF the discrimination in India and the apparent better quality of life in our side of actual border line (in material terms) can't prevent Tibetans flee to Dalai Lama, what's the point to use coercion to force those people stay with us?
It is us need to learn how to build a diversified nation and continue the nation-building process that would accomodated ethnic minorities.
In the end, we'll compete with India, not in amass arsenals, insetad, say, who can provide those people better life and opportunities. If Tibetans live a happier life both materially and spiritually than Arunachal Pradesh guys, no one can have the basis to laugh at us. In that case, it would be India to be ashamed.

Before that, let's focus internally on how to make our very own country more livable.

There are enemies, both foreign and domestic, who would want to prevent that. That is why arsenals are being built.

Our nation is already a successful model of diversity. India is not. That is why there is caste violence between Brahmins and Dalits. That is why there are armed rebels in India and over 30 armed separatist movements. Any Tibetan that goes to India does so for the multimillion dollar payouts and lifetime of no work just for merely lying about China.

 

[Tractor]

I know there are widely-existed discrmination on Eastern border Indians looks like Chinese.
Afterall, they are Tibetans. MacMahon line is drawn by British Raj, from Tibet local government, at that time, China lost control over whole Tibet.
IF the discrimination in India and the apparent better quality of life in our side of actual border line (in material terms) can't prevent Tibetans flee to Dalai Lama, what's the point to use coercion to force those people stay with us?
It is us need to learn how to build a diversified nation and continue the nation-building process that would accomodated ethnic minorities.
In the end, we'll compete with India, not in amass arsenals, insetad, say, who can provide those people better life and opportunities. If Tibetans live a happier life both materially and spiritually than Arunachal Pradesh guys, no one can have the basis to laugh at us. In that case, it would be India to be ashamed.

Before that, let's focus internally on how to make our very own country more livable.

People of Tawang are Tibetan,others just be regarded as Chinese.Whatever that land belong to China and should be considered internally somehow.

 

[shelly]

Tawang now occupied by China.


A little confusing here. Isn't Tawang occupies and administers by India?

what you guys occupy and call call tibet, is an extension of indian tawang (AP)

There are enemies, both foreign and domestic, who would want to prevent that. That is why arsenals are being built.

Our nation is already a successful model of diversity. India is not. That is why there is caste violence between Brahmins and Dalits. That is why there are armed rebels in India and over 30 armed separatist movements. Any Tibetan that goes to India does so for the multimillion dollar payouts and lifetime of no work just for merely lying about China.

you show me one article on brahmin dalit violence in the last 65 years .

 

[ksgokul]

what you guys occupy and call call tibet, is an extension of indian tawang (AP)

What is that dude? Please don't start some troll fest.

 

[ksgokul]

Our nation is already a successful model of diversity.

let me ask a question. Can a Tibetian ever get to the top position in chinese government? I thought the advantage with China is that you don't have a diversity.

India is not. That is why there is caste violence between Brahmins and Dalits. That is why there are armed rebels in India and over 30 armed separatist movements. Any Tibetan that goes to India does so for the multimillion dollar payouts and lifetime of no work just for merely lying about China.

The Caste violence exists, but not between Brahmins and Dalits. India cannot enforce order on people with its system. Only way is for the people to realise it themselves and that can happen only with increase in education. Things are looking positive and there are undoubtedly improvements. I have a strong feeling that China has to go through this phase sometime

 

[kevinx]

In terms of multi-culturism, our nation is a typical failure simply like USSR.
Uygurs, South Mongolians, in their oversea diaspora, you can easily sense there is no such thing like a common Chinese identity there.
However, mostly Indian Muslims I met are profoundly proud of their Indian identity, despite the fact a significant part of their community during British Raj period now lives in another country.

Moreover, the type of mindset which views the whole world as our enemies is somewhat self-assertive and pathetically a consequence of victimization education. A country with largest population, 2nd largest economy, hundred of nuke warheads, stealth fighters, an incoming carrier task force, 2nd largest defense expenditure, if, citizens in this country always sense the hostility and threat everywhere, I have to assume that very probably there is something wrong internally. What if the insecurity actually brought by our own government?

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

In terms of multi-culturism, our nation is a typical failure simply like USSR.
Uygurs, South Mongolians, in their oversea diaspora, you can easily sense there is no such thing like a common Chinese identity there.
However, mostly Indian Muslims I met are profoundly proud of their Indian identity, despite the fact a significant part of their community during British Raj period now lives in another country.

Moreover, the type of mindset which views the whole world as our enemies is somewhat self-assertive and pathetically a consequence of victimization education. A country with largest population, 2nd largest economy, hundred of nuke warheads, stealth fighters, an incoming carrier task force, 2nd largest defense expenditure, if, citizens in this country always sense the hostility and threat everywhere, I have to assume that very probably there is something wrong internally. What if the insecurity actually brought by our own government?

How many Chinese-Mongolians do you know? How many Uighurs do you know?

Let me change your phrasing and see if I am accurate:

In terms of multi-culturism, our nation is a typical failure simply like USSR.
Hispanics, in their oversea diaspora, you can easily sense there is no such thing like a common Amrikn identity there.
However, mostly Indian Muslims I met are profoundly proud of their Indian identity, despite the fact a significant part of their community during British Raj period now lives in another country.

Moreover, the type of mindset which views the whole world as our enemies is somewhat self-assertive and pathetically a consequence of victimization education. A country with 3rd largest population, largest economy, thousands of nuke warheads, stealth fighters, more carrier task forces than the rest of the world combined, largest defense expenditure, if, citizens in this country always sense the hostility and threat everywhere including from illiterate goat herders, I have to assume that very probably there is something wrong internally. What if the insecurity actually brought by our own government?

 

[kevinx]

I heard more about allies than enemies here in America.
People here call China "competitor" more than "enemy". The victim mindset is always tied up to inferior complex, with all due respect may I be. If my memory serves me well, the evil axis only includes a handful countries. Even during the time US wage a war on Afghanistan, Bush still emphasize that US always seek to be friend with Islam.

Hispanic American overseas would still be proud of their American identity. The place I live has a huge Hispanic American population, some of them speak Spanish more than English, but that doesn't change their mind, they still share a much deeper American identity. Even so, people are talking about discriminations, disadvantages. A society dare to admit its problems and stand up to face it always can contain the problems. While a country always claim harmony would see much more riots in multiple locations.

I'm Han Chinese from Inner Mongolia, I confided that I know much more Monglolian than most of other Han Chinese.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I heard more about allies than enemies here in America.
People here call China "competitor" more than "enemy". The victim mindset is always tied up to inferior complex, with all due respect may I be. If my memory serves me well, the evil axis only includes a handful countries. Even during the time US wage a war on Afghanistan, Bush still emphasize that US always seek to be friend with Islam.

Hispanic American overseas would still be proud of their American identity. The place I live has a huge Hispanic American population, some of them speak Spanish more than English, but that doesn't change their mind, they still share a much deeper American identity. Even so, people are talking about discriminations, disadvantages. A society dare to admit its problems and stand up to face it always can contain the problems. While a country always claim harmony would see much more riots in multiple locations.

I'm Han Chinese from Inner Mongolia, I confided that I know much more Monglolian than most of other Han Chinese.

They "would" be. That means you don't know. Ask any Hispanic in the US. They say "I'm Mexican" not "I'm American". Only the far right Cuban diaspora disown any connection to Cuba.

If we are competitors, then the interests of the US may be detrimental to those of China, and vice versa. Indeed, this conflict of interests is revealing itself more and more. As Obama said, it would be "disastrous" if Indians and Chinese became prosperous. Jon Huntsman directly said "We are going to take China down." When viewed through that lens, the conclusion is obvious.

The victim mentality may be a subtle manifestation of inferiority complex, but the most direct sign of an inferiority complex is worship of someone else and self hatred towards one's own identity.

 

[Sasquatch]

Interesting thanks.