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Sleeping dragon no more: China about to replace US as strongest naval power and Washington is too la

I never said, "Call your admirals", you did. I never said "US Dares", you did.

China being pushover is not enough condition for US to enter in a conflict. Hell, US is not even entering in a conflict with Iran right now. Having muscles does not mean you beat everyone on the street. There is a difference between a street thug and a Mafia. US is a mafia, China is a common street thug.
Good comments.

But to be sincere with you, i'm worried as of today and going forward, US Navy cant securely hold both the Persian Gulf AND South China sea at the same time. Times have changed. I dont want to say much about this so some things dont look certain ways.
 
A full fledge war will be the end of humankind.... Doesn't matter F35 or whatever shit....
Only the Russians could face off US in a full fledged war, and it would be using land and sub based nukes. I don't believe the Chinese have this capability yet. The Russians having a limited budget for decades kept these programs alive while neglecting almost everything else. But they are a real deterrent. I think the US will try anything now to contain China, and if nothing works, they will resort to something serious before China gets to a point that it can defend itself or the point were it can guarantee mutual assured destruction.
 
Only the Russians could face off US in a full fledged war, and it would be using land and sub based nukes. I don't believe the Chinese have this capability yet. The Russians having a limited budget for decades kept these programs alive while neglecting almost everything else. But they are a real deterrent. I think the US will try anything now to contain China, and if nothing works, they will resort to something serious before China gets to a point that it can defend itself or the point were it can guarantee mutual assured destruction.
Nuclear stockpile building up is never part of China's plan, and it will never happen. China is not that stupid like US and Russia spending so much money and resources on nuclear stockpile maintanence and overseas military bases, we call this burning money in China, China's focus is always economic development, world dominance and hegemony is never our goal.
 
Impressive. Type 056A Corvette and Type 052D steals the show. I wonder why Type 054 Frigates were not built?
you miss the king of the show Type 55 Destroyer
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Only the Russians could face off US in a full fledged war, and it would be using land and sub based nukes. I don't believe the Chinese have this capability yet. The Russians having a limited budget for decades kept these programs alive while neglecting almost everything else. But they are a real deterrent. I think the US will try anything now to contain China, and if nothing works, they will resort to something serious before China gets to a point that it can defend itself or the point were it can guarantee mutual assured destruction.
How many warheads do you think China has? You think 094s are not deterrents? China has enough warheads to destroy the world, Russia can destroy twice and US thrice.. How many times do you thinj you need to blow up the world?
 
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So? US has system already developed and deployed since 60s and 70s.
No they don't have or only from continental North America which unable to destroy China sats at eastern pacific, Main problem for LASERS it is distort and get out of focus by slight in Atmospheric disturbance like light rain/ snow/ hails etc etc, that's why they closed their ABL project
 
How many warheads do you think China has? You think 094s are not deterrents? China has enough warheads to destroy the world, Russia can destroy twice and US thrice.. How many times do you thinj you need to blow up the world?
China has enough warheads to destroy the world once, US has warheads capable of destroying the world 100 times thus has to spend 100 times more on having them. With the same result, now tell me who is smart and who is stupid.
 
Not exactly. Hell, it won't be end of China though china will be weakened substantially.
You seriously think a nuclear war will not be the end of mankind?

China has enough warheads to destroy the world once, US has warheads capable of destroying the world 100 times thus has to spend 100 times more on having them. With the same result, now tell me who is smart and who is stupid.
Eaxctly, you only need to destroy the world once, that's the point I was trying to tell some idiots here. US and China and Russia has the same nuclear parity, because you don't need to destroy the world more than once.
 
Right now USN is ahead of PLAAN , USN large Air craft Carrier fleet and Frigates and Destroyers armed with Aegis system is a force to be reckon with, second USN presence in almost all the regions and its bases give them a unique advantage over PLAAN , Chinese Navy right now is at best a Regional Force but USN is a global force . I often say China require more AC and CBG's , Foreign naval Bases and power projection . Its time for them to flex their muscles and come out of this not involving attitude . But even after China has 5-6 AC we still wont be able to determine who will come on top of each other unless both countries goes to a full scale war , which won't happen anytime soon .
In terms of destroyer, PLAN is far ahead with 055 destroyer. Dual phased array radar is not something to be messed around. US has the quantity but not quality for destroyers.

you miss the king of the show Type 55 Destroyer
They pursposely do it and then repeat the same old US tactics that US has the tech edge to delude themselves from the fact China has finally surpass them.

Only the Russians could face off US in a full fledged war, and it would be using land and sub based nukes. I don't believe the Chinese have this capability yet. The Russians having a limited budget for decades kept these programs alive while neglecting almost everything else. But they are a real deterrent. I think the US will try anything now to contain China, and if nothing works, they will resort to something serious before China gets to a point that it can defend itself or the point were it can guarantee mutual assured destruction.
I don't know where you are during the last few months? You don't know the big news of DF-41 ICBM unveil on Oct last year?

China don't have the capability? Yes are deluding yourself. DF-41 spec even surpass topol-M becoming the most powerful road mobile ICBM ever exist in this world. The payload , range and reaction time are all unrival.
 
In terms of destroyer, PLAN is far ahead with 055 destroyer. Dual phased array radar is not something to be messed around. US has the quantity but not quality for destroyers.


They pursposely do it and then repeat the same old US tactics that US has the tech edge to delude themselves from the fact China has finally surpass them.
No sir i wont agree on this with you on this, they have decades of experience to design and develop naval ships and their system, and they don't sitting idle either, most cases you are equal but in sum cases USA ahead from you
 
No sir i wont agree on this with you on this, they have decades of experience to design and develop naval ships and their system, and they don't sitting idle either, most cases you are equal but in sum cases USA ahead from you
Lol.. typical beating the old drum. That is also how french think when they won WWI and think repeating the same tactics in WWII against German. Guess what?

Do check more of the spec of 055 destroyer. It is a turning point in history of PLAN navy and also for US Navy. Dual phased array radar are top notch. VLS of 112 outnumber US and not to mention each size silo is even bigger than coming MK-57. Tonnage are far bigger than any class of AB destroyers. Only outsize by Zumalt but Zumalt is a failure product which cannot be compare to 055.
 
Lol.. typical beating the old drum. That is also how french think when they won WWI and think repeating the same tactics in WWII against German. Guess what?

Do check more of the spec of 055 destroyer. It is a turning point in history of PLAN navy and also for US Navy. Dual phased array radar are top notch. VLS of 112 outnumber US and not to mention each size silo is even bigger than coming MK-57. Tonnage are far bigger than any class of AB destroyers. Only outsize by Zumalt but Zumalt is a failure product which cannot be compare to 055.
So, they have also latest dual phase array radar technology on board on Gerald R.ford class carriers and zumwalt class so what so special about it
 
So, they have also latest dual phase array radar technology on board on Gerald R.ford class carriers and zumwalt class so what so special about it
Then why it didn't it put on Zumalt or new flight AB block?

Not to mention US dual phased is not advance enough to be miniature to be fitted onboatd destroyer while China succeed where US failed.

If one wants to be successful. It is to embrace new idea and challenge and not to cling onto old idea...
 

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