Six Americans die in suicide attack in Afghan capital

[BeyondHeretic]

The Taliban was ousted from power and we installed another government.

haha , what power? what government?

 

[AUz]

The Taliban was ousted from power and we installed another government.

A corrupt government that made even Taliban look 'better' ...

Taliban are well-poised to take over once the West leaves Afghanistan...

 

[Ayush]

RIP..............

 

[gambit]

A corrupt government that made even Taliban look 'better' ...

Taliban are well-poised to take over once the West leaves Afghanistan...

Proof that Afghanistan is a failed country. And so funny that so many here cheers for that failure.

 

[M.harris]

In 1942 it was like death to German invader.
In 2013 it is like death to American invader.

 

[AUz]

Proof that Afghanistan is a failed country. And so funny that so many here cheers for that failure.

Or it is just that U.S failed yet again in Islamic World? Iraq was destabilized and pushed into civil war..Pakistan was destabilized..Afghanistan was made worse after 10 years of bombing/killing etc..

West's intervention makes things more complicated for people everywhere...

Hope U.S will give some rest to its naked aggressive imperialism in Islamic World....

 

[Wholegrain]

Are separatist Uighurs Mujahedin freedom fighters too ???

Clashes between police and Uighurs in China leave 21 dead - latimes.com

I bet you will change your plate now

LOL@ western media title- "clashes between police and Uighurs".

Most of the police in the tarim counties in Xinjiang ARE uighur, the clash that happened was between mostly uighur police and uighur civilians and most of the dead, both police and civilians were uighur.

Uyghur separatists were backed by the Soviet Union, all the Uyghur 2nd ETR leaders were Soviet communist party members and the Soviets supported the separatist insurgents.

The last times they tried to declare independence the Uyghurs were manhandled and defeated by Hui Muslims, separatism is not a religious issue.

These were the victims of the attack. Nine of them were Uyghur policemen, three were Han chinese and one was a Mongol.

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[Wholegrain]

These were the victims of the attack. Nine of them were Uyghur policemen, three were Han chinese and one was a Mongol.

Does IndoCarib find it funny now?

 

[IndoCarib]

These were the victims of the attack. Nine of them were Uyghur policemen, three were Han chinese and one was a Mongol.

Does IndoCarib find it funny now?

No. I dont find it funny. Your own country man, HongWu may find it funny. He is a chinese taliban

 

[gambit]

Or it is just that U.S failed yet again in Islamic World? Iraq was destabilized and pushed into civil war..Pakistan was destabilized..Afghanistan was made worse after 10 years of bombing/killing etc..

West's intervention makes things more complicated for people everywhere...

Hope U.S will give some rest to its naked aggressive imperialism in Islamic World....

I have no problems agreeing to that. The US succeeded in Europe and significant parts of Asia, but failed in the ME. What does that say...

 

[AUz]

I have no problems agreeing to that. The US succeeded in Europe and significant parts of Asia, but failed in the ME. What does that say...

Unlike Japanese/South Koreans, Islamic World doesn't bend over to West. Muslims kept their own culture, traditions, religion etc globally (Western influence is there, but so is Eastern/Islamic influence in West)....OTOH, South Koreans/Japanese who "westernized" their societies and literally changed the face of their cultures by adapting the culture of their 'masters'.

Muslims see their culture as not only equal but superior to that of West's, due to many reasons (Religion, long shinning history of being global leaders/powers for 1100+ years, past conflicts with West etc). Hence any "imposition" of change by West, even if for the better, can not work with Muslims. I hope America has learnt it by now..

Let Muslims figure their sh!t out by themselves... Egypt, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey etc are showing signs of progress. People are becoming more and more politically aware. Watch Muslim Brotherhood getting BOMBED in next Egypt elections, if they didn't perform (as it seems to to be the case).

Lastly, 'changing' Europeans wasn't a big deal. America is just an extension of Western Europe..

 

[Wright]

Unlike Japanese/South Koreans, Islamic World doesn't bend over to West. Muslims kept their own culture, traditions, religion etc globally (Western influence is there, but so is Eastern/Islamic influence in West)....OTOH, South Koreans/Japanese who "westernized" their societies and literally changed the face of their cultures by adapting the culture of their 'masters'.

Muslims see their culture as not only equal but superior to that of West's, due to many reasons (Religion, long shinning history of being global leaders/powers for 1100+ years, past conflicts with West etc). Hence any "imposition" of change by West, even if for the better, can not work with Muslims. I hope America has learnt it by now..

Let Muslims figure their sh!t out by themselves... Egypt, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey etc are showing signs of progress. People are becoming more and more politically aware. Watch Muslim Brotherhood getting BOMBED in next Egypt elections, if they didn't perform (as it seems to to be the case).

Lastly, 'changing' Europeans wasn't a big deal. America is just an extension of Western Europe..

Or maybe the others are smarter and realize economy is priority. Muslims dont and thus starve while "occupied" japan, Korea, Taiwan, Germany prosper, while you are ruled by strongmen on US payroll. Muslims dont hold a candle to East Asian civilization - now or in the past. dont kid yourself.

And you being Pakistani are even lower on the muslims hierarchy - Turks, Arabs, Persians have their unique place in history. WTF do you have.

 

[AUz]

Or maybe the others are smarter and realize economy is priority

Everyone realizes that. It is just that some people become slaves of other rich guys and 'enjoy' the benefit. While some keep their self-respect and make a name out of themselves by going the hard way. E.g China.

Muslims dont and thus starve while "occupied" japan, Korea, Germany prosper

See above.

Germans were always great people..U.S aint got nothing on Germany. You could add "Canada" in place of Germany though

while you are ruled by strongmen on US payroll.

Exactly. But people do not just "accept" the rule of these people...and hence you see how people over-threw the 'strongmen' of U.S in Arab spring etc.

Only few of 'em 'strongmen' remaining.... While these strongmen screw you too actually. Hint : Saudi funding of puritanical Islam in the heartlands of West..

Muslims dont hold a candle to East Asian civilization - now or in the past. dont kid yourself.

LOL...There is no "East Asian Civilization" my Western friend.

"Muslims" always respected China. Only had strategic conflict once..which Islamic Empire won in the end (learn how Central Asia changed from being Chinese to Islamic).

And you being Pakistani are even lower on the muslims hierarchy

Still more relevant than Canada.

On a serious note : There is no hierarchy..

- Turks, Arabs, Persians have their unique place in history. WTF do you have.

Unique history of being a man from this land of Indus River.

Just because you're not-so-bright westerner and don't know crap about anything, it doesn't mean that others don't know their history etc.

 

[Wright]

Everyone realizes that. It is just that some people become slaves of other rich guys and 'enjoy' the benefit. While some keep their self-respect and make a name out of themselves by going the hard way. E.g China.

China is actually the one supplying the slave labor. Not Japan and Korea. In fact China looked up to Japans success and how it became the second largest economy, and tried to emulate it.

See above.

Germans were always great people..U.S aint got nothing on Germany. You could add "Canada" in place of Germany though

The US controlled Germany for some time and implemented economic plans as they did in Japan.

Exactly. But people do not just "accept" the rule of these people...and hence you see how people over-threw the 'strongmen' of U.S in Arab spring etc.

And yet most Arabs agree US meant to overthow Gadaffi who for years was against American interest, as with Assad.
Either way more chaos in the Arab world. Armed rebel groups fighting one another, civil strife.

Only few of 'em 'strongmen' remaining.... While these strongmen screw you too actually. Hint : Saudi funding of puritanical Islam in the heartlands of West.

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I disagree, the cycle will repeat because it is culture. Arabs have Emirs and kings. Thus far most have been willing to sell out to the US or Russians.

LOL...There is no "East Asian Civilization" my Western friend.

Just like how you have a lot in common with Indians in terms of language, family structure, food, etc - same applies to all regions of the world. East Asian countries at times have been part of one another hence the cultural closeness.

Dont deny the obvious.

"Muslims" always respected China. Only had strategic conflict once..which Islamic Empire won in the end (learn how Central Asia changed from being Chinese to Islamic).

Which Islamic empire won over China? China was never under muslim rule from my understanding, please enlighten me.

On a serious note : There is no hierarchy..

Yes there is. Why else would Arabs, Turks, Iranians argue over which empires were theirs, who contributed what, and which race is superior. Why else do you think Mustafa Kemal removed Persian and Arab words from the language?

Unique history of being a man from this land of Indus River.

Just because you're not-so-bright westerner and don't know crap about anything, it doesn't mean that others don't know their history etc

That was a local culture - not an empire like the Turkic, Arab ones I meant. Not did it shape history like theirs did.

 

[Jungibaaz]

The Taliban was ousted from power and we installed another government.

Yes, ousted from power in Kabul.
The lawless areas are plentiful in Afghanistan and that's where the US and allies have no presence.