Six accords of cooperation signed between Gwadar, China’s ports

[Meengla]

OBOR is moving in 2 directions west and south so linking Africa to Europe through China and that Places Pakistan in middle. This is really hurting Indian folks as they don't have the money to jump into Africa in a sudden. European folks are mainly bankers and this is hurting them because they are not loaning it. this leaves USA as the main hit taker because Africa is the New war due to untapped resources. Pakistan will be a collateral beneficiary of this whole thing the war between USA and China.

Overall correct. Especially the bolded part. Indeed, like much of the western Europe benefited from the USA-USSR rivalry, there is great potentials for Pakistan. Most of what Pakistan needs: Ensure political stability for the next few decades. Destroy terrorism inside Pakistan. So no more Political Dharnas. No expectation to have angels in Pakistan's parliament. Trust me: 'Corruption' is a world-wide phenomenon but political instability is a far worse damaging phenomenon. Ensure political stability and internal security.

And, at this point, I don't care too much even if it is an overtly military led govt which ensures what I have said above.

 

[BHarwana]

Sorry bro
But why would cpec ruin any indian dreams?
If their dream is pakistan's economic destruction, then yes those dreams would be crushed. They tried very hard through terrorism too .
But apart from that, it is not going to hurt India, only it can hurt India egos .it can cause jealously.
Just was watching a documentary of Calcutta today. One of the major city of India and was amazed to see such poverty that even I, who belong to Pakistan a 3rd world country, has never seen.
Our cities , if not better than India's, but they are not worse then India's.
Only a genuine leadership can turn the tides for Pakistan. Only a leadership that is acceptable to military and trusted by the people, can change the course of our country. Political stability and a little bit capacity building of law enforcement can solve huge huge problems for Pakistan.
But that doesn't in any sense mean that it is going to hurt India in anyways.
Pakistan would always want India to solve Kashmir and other issues.
Right now they feel they are all too powerful, and don't want to talk. Or solve the issue. Pretending there is no issue and repeating lies again and again. So that they started to look truth is the new Indian strategy.
Sadly.

First you have to understand what is CPEC than you can understand how it will effect India. India is a highly populated developing economy and India relies on continuous growth to maintain it's stability. It is like a house of cards if you are able to pull one card out of the house the economy will collapse. Now the question on how CPEC effects India. India is a massive exporter of energy as India is not oil rich country but an importer. What CPEC is doing is creating a large energy market in Pakistan and diverting middle east energy to China. Now this is creating more demand for energy in the region. Pakistan is highly populated country but with less infrastructure to consume energy in industry. So CPEC will act as a booster to Pakistan's production sector and will lift it up and bring in foreign investment in the country. Now this all said about energy how will it effect India. One it will increase the energy acquiring competition in Middle east and will reduce the energy cost for China due to shorter route. This will result in less Indian dominance in the region and energy prices going up for India thus making Indian products expensive in the international market. Which means less foreign exchange for India and less business for India and thus destroying many industries in India. This is just one aspect of CPEC in just energy sector. If I touch every thing it will be a much bigger debate, just giving you the idea.

 

[LeGenD]

Clearly mentioned in Hadiths that they, the people with a particular(pale) color will be ruling the world and with facial features also hinted at in different Hadiths...

Also there is a mention(Hadith) of 'seek knowledge even if you have to go to China'.....China is a land of Taoism, Philosophy of Confucius and rich in arts and culture.

Bro,

I do not recall any hadith of that sort.

As for the hadith you mentioned: https://islamqa.info/en/13637

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Bro,

I do not recall any hadith of that sort.

As for the hadith you mentioned: https://islamqa.info/en/13637

Don't rely too much on internet for Islamic teachings and seeking knowledge, better to get the Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim to get a first hand knowledge of it. Lots of concocted, doctored, skewed articles related to Islam on internet...many vested interests here and lies and falsehood spread here on purpose...internet is ideal for it.

You need to decipher, double check and look for an alternate source to get to the crux of it.

BTW the hadiths I quoted are written and discussed millions of times and they are true....saying this is not true is a falsehood.

https://islaminchina.wordpress.com/2007/11/06/authenticity-of-seek-knowledge-even-as-far-as-china/

Bro,

I do not recall any hadith of that sort.

Even Chinese people knew there is this saying or quote about it(lets for a moment leave the Hadith issue).

The point is in initial Islamic era China was a center of learning in medicine and Tibb, herbal medicine(Hakeem) and Hikmah too. Philosophy and social sciences and the reason it was quoted is that the Knowledge about wordly things is also important and not just about Deen and religion...Deen-o-Dunya need to gel in.

 

[LeGenD]

Don't rely too much on internet for Islamic teachings and seeking knowledge, better to get the Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim to get a first hand knowledge of it. Lots of concocted, doctored, skewed articles related to Islam on internet...many vested interests here and lies and falsehood spread here on purpose...internet is ideal for it.

You need to decipher, double check and look for an alternate source to get to the crux of it.

BTW the hadiths I quoted are written and discussed millions of times and they are true....saying this is not true is a falsehood.

https://islaminchina.wordpress.com/2007/11/06/authenticity-of-seek-knowledge-even-as-far-as-china/




Even Chinese people knew there is this saying or quote about it(lets for a moment leave the Hadith issue).

The point is in initial Islamic era China was a center of learning in medicine and Tibb, herbal medicine(Hakeem) and Hikmah too. Philosophy and social sciences and the reason it was quoted is that the Knowledge about wordly things is also important and not just about Deen and religion...Deen-o-Dunya need to gel in.

Bro,

I have studied these matters, and continue to study these matters.

In-fact, hadith about seeking knowledge in China is the first that opened my eyes to the reality of narrative-building and fabrications throughout Islamic city and why categorization of hadith materialized. Most unfortunate.

Dr. Zakir Naik have extensive understanding of various religions. Due to his teachings and lectures, many individuals have embraced Islam. His knowledge of even hindu religion is so good that many hardcore hindu clerics perceive him as a threat.

Now, of-course, the hadith in question, would appeal to Chinese Muslims. It is a narrative that influences their spirituality.

Nonetheless, my intention is not to start a religious debate here. Just wanted a fellow Muslim to exercise caution. Peace.

 

[Ocean]

China hadees is a weak narration and idont need to rely on it to learn knowledge. Its a weak hadees.

Just the fact that first word from quranic revelations was "IQRA" is enough to teach muslims importance of ilm.

And btw Zakir nayak isnt any authoritative personality when it comes to islamic knowledge. He is just an egotistic sort of person who loves screaming at ppl in his lectures when he cant answer questions, at best i label such people as clowns.

 

[Sugarcane]

China doesnt need Pakistan for their connectivity with Europe. China Europe train is already up and running

As for china exporting goods to africa via gwadar, do you really believe chinese will ship their goods all the way to gwadar port via land route then again they will ship their goods to africa via gwadar port?

Although, the burn you get from CPEC is not curable, but if your single digit IQ works try to understand utility of Gawadar

1. It will be Transshipment port --> Try to learn what transshipment ports are.
2. Land connectivity is mainly for northwestern region of China, And Gawadar will be nearest port for that region than any Chinese port, any Idiot except Indian can figure out this by looking at map.
3. As China is moving towards high-tech manufacturing, So Gawadar Industrial Zone will be another destination of Industries which China is relocating to remain competitive.
4. It will serve as contingency route in case sh!t hits the fan.

Above are just economic roles, for non-economic role of Gawadar as your leadership why they are crying.

 

[maravan91]

Although, the burn you get from CPEC is not curable, but if your single digit IQ works try to understand utility of Gawadar

1. It will be Transshipment port --> Try to learn what transshipment ports are.
2. Land connectivity is mainly for northwestern region of China, And Gawadar will be nearest port for that region than any Chinese port, any Idiot except Indian can figure out this by looking at map.
3. As China is moving towards high-tech manufacturing, So Gawadar Industrial Zone will be another destination of Industries which China is relocating to remain competitive.
4. It will serve as contingency route in case sh!t hits the fan.

Above are just economic roles, for non-economic role of Gawadar as your leadership why they are crying.

Pakistan china border is not like Wagah border, where you can hav unrestricted movement of goods.As of now only 15-20 semi trailers r entering pakistan via karokaram highway from China.From December to April this highway is closed for any kind of traffic. No of these semi trailers going to gwadar. This is the reason your 99% of your trade with china is happening via sea route.

 

[Sugarcane]

Pakistan china border is not like Wagah border, where you can hav unrestricted movement of goods.As of now only 15-20 semi trailers r entering pakistan via karokaram highway from China.From December to April this highway is closed for any kind of traffic. No of these semi trailers going to gwadar. This is the reason your 99% of your trade with china is happening via sea route.

Your brain cells are slower than I assumed. Get your daily dose of mental satisfaction by repeating "CPEC is hoax" and sleep tight.