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Singapore Navy almost the size of Pakistan Navy

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or as in case of you having amrika as the protector?- constant billion dollars military and economical AID can make the GDP do wonders?- isn't it?-
Really?
I don't see any wonders in Pakistan Economy despite billions of US$ of US aid.You guys still have less than 2.5% growth which is pathetic.
 
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Hint: If Singapore goes wars with neighbors especially Malaysia or Indonesia in the past, they wouldn't have much everything they had today in decorations. I feel US will intervene this areas soon after South Asia.

Unfortunately for haters of our success, Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore has never been anywhere close to a war for the past 50 years, we rather focus on internal matters within our countries. There are some minor disputes between Indonesia and Malaysia, none of which can't be solved with dialogue, war is never the option. We're generally peaceful people.

US has no reason to interfere here so your prediction won't happen anytime soon. We're no threat to US, in fact most of us share a good relationship with them especially Singapore.

also don't forget Singapore is one of nations which were given massive US aid to make them major economic power so it can contain Chinese influence in region

Nonsense. I've researched the Singapore economic model and compared it to the Malaysian model to figure out where we missed out, and I've never read about anything of US aid. Singapore economic success is entirely due to their good leadership and own hard work, let's not take anything away from them.

Singapore and the United States does share a long-standing and strong relationship, particularly in defence, the economy, health and education but China is Singapore's 2nd largest trade partners and also a very good ally of Singapore since the 1970s.

Like I've said before, the whole having to choose between China and US is frankly over-rated, here we work fine with both of them.
 
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I think people would be surprised how a nation with a smaller GDP then Singapore is able to have a Navy similar to Singapore.
 
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Its an island nation.Of course navy will be there priority.
 
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Singapore is a big economic country(though it's area is almost six times less than Karachi, 690km2 vs 3550km2), whereas it is sad to say there is no much concept of great economy in Pakistan. Could be due to lack of education.
 
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Well many people think pakistan is a poor country well i can bet on that pakistan is one of the richest country on God's Earth it have diamond, gold , coal , salt , cupper , marbel , iron , petrol , what the don't have is good leadership who loves their country PAkistan just need to get some good leadership how loves their country when they get their will be no war , no fight just peace , Cz some oldie once said y don't need weapons to win a war Y need man ,, same goes for a country :d y don't need resource's y just need some people who love's their Country LOve y all ,,,and about why pakistan's is spending on army when india and other's stop making guns and tanks and start making bricks we will also stop buying airplanes and ships cz we can live in hunger but we love our country and relgion then any thing else even our lifes i Love PAkistan ... PAKistan zindabad : love y rock on
 
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Mate I never say anything without researching and proper data backing my statement. I only troll when am tipsy and thats once a fortnight:lol:.




Now you are accusing me of all sorta of things which I never said, you should go back and read why I made that comment and in what context, not to forget that I was just being the devil's advocate!

Either case about the toll of WOT on Pakistan's economy, according to GOP it was 68 Billion not 90 Billion. source

And I specifically said that I am not just talking about post 9/11 WOT aid that Pakistan received, rather the Aid Pakistan has received from America over the years.

From 1947-2002 Pakistan has received about 30 Billion USD in economical assitance and 7 Billion USD as military aid. So thats 37 Billion dollar, without taking dollar inflation into account.

US Aid to Pakistan and Democracy


Never said that a country runs on aid and will get destroyed without the aid. Not even Israel.

Its funny how you give all sorts of excuse for America giving Pakistan aid, and justification the aid was meant for Americas strategic gains and fighting America's war. But you don't see the same logic in the case of Israel. Israel after all is America's solid ally right in the middle of oil rich hostile territory. So the aid that America gives to Israel is for American benefit and strategic interests after all.


And please don't accuse me of stuffs that I never said:cheesy:

And Here is for you to check that it is not 68 billion USD , Pakistan has lost 35000 lives and 80 billion USD in the 'war on terror'.flv - YouTube

And that are direct loses don't forget to count the indirect loses we suffered in monetary terms like decrease in FDI, inflation and other influences that easily make them to go beyond than 90billion USD
And for your info where the heck i in my post accused israel or bad mouth about it?

I was not giving you the excuses about the US aid but a reality check
 
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Really?
I don't see any wonders in Pakistan Economy despite billions of US$ of US aid.You guys still have less than 2.5% growth which is pathetic.

thats a pathetic comment- you should know the Pakistani engagements as comapred to Israel- Do your searches-
 
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hahaha..........btw by applying this rule indian people still don't enjoy the quality of life that can be comparable to their spendings on defence.

actually they Do coz Indian Spending on defence as a percentage of GDP is 1.8% compared Pakistan which is 4% at 8 Billion USD of a GDP OF 190 Billion USD

While our expenses on subsidy to the poor and middle class is 90 Billion USD which is 2.5 Times our Defence Budget
Also our Expense on Infrastructure DEVELOPMENT is 9 % of GDP , which is 5 times our Defence Budget , while Pakistan spends only 1-2% of GDP on Infrastructure , this is something which Riaz Haq and Zaid Hamid wont tell u
 
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And Here is for you to check that it is not 68 billion USD , Pakistan has lost 35000 lives and 80 billion USD in the 'war on terror'.flv - YouTube

And that are direct loses don't forget to count the indirect loses we suffered in monetary terms like decrease in FDI, inflation and other influences that easily make them to go beyond than 90billion USD

I was just quoting the official Government of Pakistan figure.

And for your info where the heck i in my post accused israel or bad mouth about it?

I was not giving you the excuses about the US aid but a reality check

Never said that you did. Anyways I was specifically talking about the pre WOT Economic and Military aid that Pakistan has received from America, which amounts to some 37 Billion USD.

But you felt the need to accuse me of stuffs that I never even said. Lets not digress anymore.

Later.
 
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I was just quoting the official Government of Pakistan figure.



Never said that you did. Anyways I was specifically talking about the pre WOT Economic and Military aid that Pakistan has received from America, which amounts to some 37 Billion USD.

But you felt the need to accuse me of stuffs that I never even said. Lets not digress anymore.

Later.

Nah i never accused you ,i was just providing you the reality of the aid...... Historically there have been many parameters ....anywayz lets not go much into that .....................
 
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Singapore is a big economic country(though it's area is almost six times less than Karachi, 690km2 vs 3550km2), whereas it is sad to say there is no much concept of great economy in Pakistan. Could be due to lack of education.

Singapore has its benefits having a small and controllable population and of course a good leader with foresight, I wouldn't play too much into our success because of these factors which many countries do not have. Any country with a big population is bound to be hard to control (corruption etc) even with the best of leaders at the helm.

There is nothing compare between Pakistan and Singapore with regards to economy or military, Pakistan has it much tougher then we do with a bigger population and landmass to control with different relations with her neighbors. Assuming we had a long land border with Malaysia or Indonesia things might be quite different from what we have today.

You military is focused on land base incursions whilst ours is focus to prevent the incursions from even setting foot on our land. That's why the investments are primarily in Air & Sea. Once the battle reaches our shores it is already lost, Pakistan on the other hand has a bigger landmass as a buffer between the borders to the populated areas hence the focus on land defense.

There are some positive notes which I believe there is been a recent encouragement between our government and yours for more investments between our countries. Lets see how that pans out.
 
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Nah, it's not about borders or receiving aid. Singapore has their own major disadvantages, among them severe limitation of land and zero natural resources. They even buy drinking water from Malaysia because their country has no dams.

It's about how we make the best of what we have. From what I've read, Singapore has some genius economy planners among their government. And their ultimate priority is always the economy, that's why they succeeded so well.

Same with Hong Kong actually, we import our drinking water from the mainland. :lol:

Hong Kong itself has almost no resources to speak of. We import almost everything.
 
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