Signs of an arms race in the Gulf under the banner of a missile with a missile and a bomb for a bomb

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

KSA has a very long way to go because it's a puppet state. If saudi is so strong, why do they beg USA to attack Iran? and why don't they defeat houthis in one week? Just invade their capital if you say it's difficult to fight guerilla warfare. Why do arab puppets in persian gulf host foreign forces if they are strong?

Arab league and summits are always failed, without results, waste of time and money. Look how Qatar responded to the failed summit and how saudi and emirates reacted towards Qatar. There is no unity at all for simple issues, let alone for fighting houthis or any other force. Saudi has no role and will never decide for other countries be it on north africa or middle east to have ties with Iran. At most they throw few billions dollars to temporary prevent ties and people like Sisi know how to milk Saudis to receive such gifts, so this fake unity not only does not work, it will have costs for you as well.

KSA is the most influential state in the region arguably and certainly among the Muslim states. Israel can be discussed. Only state in the region with excellent ties with all 3 powers of the world. Playing all 3 out against each other successfully. Having a trade surplus with all 3 too.

Using that logic you are a puppet state of Russia and North Korea since the latter is the source of your missile program.

What long way to go? We will soon have the most sophisticated and extensive nuclear energy infrastructure and very soon we will master the nuclear cycle (already 1 working research nuclear plant). Our missile program is likely the most sophisticated as well and the known missiles (bought over 30 years ago) have the longest reach.

No such thing. The Iranian Mullah regime is having a cancerous influence in the region. KSA does not need to do anything to get the attention of the US. The failed Iranian regime does that on its own already. For 40 years in a row.

If iran is so strong, why cannot attack a single Arab country directly. Not even the smallest such as Bahrain? Why can your failed regime only use a few proxies and nothing else? Why can you only send advisors to tiny mostly flat Syria while KSA is able to conquer 85% (along with the Yemeni military) of Yemen a country 1/3 the size of Iran (larger than Iraq and Syria combined almost) and heavily mountainous?

Ask those regimes. For protection against large regional countries and to gain influence. Qatar is a prefect example of this.

No, that is not correct.

Qatar dispute is a new thing. Otherwise you cannot mention anything. And the reason for that is that the Qatari regime is stupid much like the Iranian regime. They think that they can support the MB everywhere, plot against neighbors while being a tiny entity, have good ties with the Mullah regime, the Erdogan regime and the West (hosting largest US base) all at once. That is not how the real world works like.

It works perfectly. All those states that you mention have zero ties with you but excellent ties with us and most Arab countries. As I said you can only have ties (formally) with old ally (Al-Assad that is in power temporary and his family), Iraq (post 2003 only and not for much longer) and rest is just proxies during conflict. That amounts to KSA supporting proxies (as in the past) in war-torn Afghanistan.

The fact remains. You cannot deal economically or military with even 1 Arab country (KSA) let alone the entire Arab world. There is no comparison on any fronts. It is like comparing France with the Netherlands. Makes no sense. Never heard Dutch people dreaming about conquering France. Yet Iranians seem to be (on PDF and the Mullah regime) incredibly deluded people.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

oh? really? buddy? terrorists like kulbhusan yadav aka mubarak patel? yeah, you have no room to argue!

that's the problem...had you actually USED those centrifuges, you could've been a nuclear weapons state by now. but OKAY FINE...
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we'll ask you for your "high effeciency" centrifuges if WE need to make some sugar free cotton candy! happy?


6 months to 6 days?
what the blip are you smoking?!?!?! india didn't sneak in vedic cow dung through chahbahar to you guys did they???

Russia and China are FAST starting to view you as an idiotic retarted liability that can't get its act together!

the point is NOT to GET to the point of being turned into another vietnam. taking over your oil fields would be well worth getting thousands of body bags back, if you think washington gives a crap, then you are sadly mistaken (again)!

The deal did not prevent us from developing our centrifuges. And you know what the funny thing is? the deal was made to hold us back for 13 years (2 years already passed), but the nice thing is that we exactly need 10 year to make our nuclear technology way more advanced than it is now, so for us it did not matter anyway. Why do you think Trump, zionist and their regional puppets are so mad, the deal is not in their benefit at all in longer term.

Already we can produce a nuke in 6 to 8 months, it's confirmed, so think about it when we activate our modern centrifuges, then vedic stories will come true indeed.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/48074/former-un-deputy-iran-could-make-nuclear-bomb-six-josh-hammer

Russia and China rebuked US and actually are getting tired of US bullying, I don't know where you follow news...

KSA is the most influential state in the region arguably and certainly among the Muslim states. Israel can be discussed. Only state in the region with excellent ties with all 3 powers of the world. Playing all 3 out against each other successfully. Having a trade surplus with all 3 too.

Using that logic you are a puppet state of Russia and North Korea since the latter is the source of your missile program.

What long way to go? We will soon have the most sophisticated and extensive nuclear energy infrastructure and very soon we will master the nuclear cycle (already 1 working research nuclear plant). Our missile program is likely the most sophisticated as well and the known missiles (bought over 30 years ago) have the longest reach.

No such thing. The Iranian Mullah regime is having a cancerous influence in the region. KSA does not need to do anything to get the attention of the US. The failed Iranian regime does that on its own already. For 40 years in a row.

If iran is so strong, why cannot attack a single Arab country directly. Not even the smallest such as Bahrain? Why can your failed regime only use a few proxies and nothing else? Why can you only send advisors to tiny mostly flat Syria while KSA is able to conquer 85% (along with the Yemeni military) of Yemen a country 1/3 the size of Iran (larger than Iraq and Syria combined almost) and heavily mountainous?

Ask those regimes. For protection against large regional countries and to gain influence. Qatar is a prefect example of this.

No, that is not correct.

Qatar dispute is a new thing. Otherwise you cannot mention anything. And the reason for that is that the Qatari regime is stupid much like the Iranian regime. They think that they can support the MB everywhere, plot against neighbors while being a tiny entity, have good ties with the Mullah regime, the Erdogan regime and the West (hosting largest US base) all at once. That is not how the real world works like.

It works perfectly. All those states that you mention have zero ties with you but excellent ties with us and most Arab countries. As I said you can only have ties (formally) with old ally (Al-Assad that is in power temporary and his family), Iraq (post 2003 only and not for much longer) and rest is just proxies during conflict. That amounts to KSA supporting proxies (as in the past) in war-torn Afghanistan.

The fact remains. You cannot deal economically or military with even 1 Arab country (KSA) let alone the entire Arab world. There is no comparison on any fronts. It is like comparing France with the Netherlands. Makes no sense. Never heard Dutch people dreaming about conquering France. Yet Iranians seem to be (on PDF and the Mullah regime) incredibly deluded people.

We have no Russian or North korean forces, neither do we ask them for permissions or shower them with money to buy their favour. We're not scared that Russia would plan a regime change if we do something what is against their will. So we're no puppets unlike Saudi Arabia and Emirates and Bahrain etc.

Deport US, British, French forces and start a war with us, then we will have a fair fight and fair war.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

We have no Russian or North korean forces, neither do we ask them for permissions or shower them with money to buy their favour. We're not scared that Russia would plan a regime change if we do something what is against their will. So we're no puppets unlike Saudi Arabia and Emirates and Bahrain etc.

Deport US, British, French forces and start a war with us, then we will have a fair fight and fair war.

All of your "indigenous" and so far completely unproven weapons system derive from them directly. Explain the difference. The answer is that there is none. The second your sanctions were lifted your Mullah's began to order billions wroth of Western products (civilian) and if you could, you would have ordered Western military products as well. Similar to when your Shah was buying more Western weapons than anyone else. This is the reality.

A fair fight would not be tiny Bahrain or UAE against Iran but all of Arabia. Not even going to mention all of the Arab Middle East (as that would be very unfair for you) let alone the entire Arab world (even more, suicide for you would be the result).

Qatar (regime of course not people all the 3 pro-Iran Arab countries is only regimes that are pro-Iran not people) is more friendly with you nowadays. Go ask them to remove the biggest US base in the region. Your regime is doing business (UAE is your largest trade partner in the region) with the UAE who have a US base as well. Go ask them to remove it. Same with tiny Bahrain. KSA does not have any foreign bases.

You (Iran) encouraged the US to invade Iraq back in 2003 and were in favor of it. What you could not do (defeat Saddam) the US did for you. Same with Afghanistan. KSA/Pakistani-supported Taliban crushed your Northern Alliance but only the US invasion in 2001 saved them. Now Taliban rules again.

Al-Assad will fall too. A tiny dynasty composed of Alawites (Small minority) will not rule for long after what has happened. Houthis are finished too. Barely controlling 15% and more and more Yemenis are against their incompetence and incompetent rule and lack of prospects.

What is even more important, the Iranian Mullah's are on loan as well. Either an external force will remove them or the people themselves.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

All of your "indigenous" and so far completely unproven weapons system derive from them directly. Explain the difference. The answer is that there is none. The second your sanctions were lifted your Mullah's began to order billions wroth of Western products (civilian) and if you could, you would have ordered Western military products as well. Similar to when your Shah was buying more Western weapons than anyone else. This is the reality.

A fair fight would not be tiny Bahrain or UAE against Iran but all of Arabia. Not even going to mention all of the Arab Middle East (as that would be very unfair for you) let alone the entire Arab world (even more, suicide for you would be the result).

Qatar is more friendly with you nowadays. Go ask them to remove the biggest US base in the region. Your regime is doing business (UAE is your largest trade partner in the region) with the UAE who have a US base as well. Go ask them to remove it. Same with tiny Bahrain. KSA does not have any foreign bases.

You (Iran) encouraged the US to invade Iraq back in 2003 and were in favor of it. What you could not do (defeat Saddam) the US did for you.

"Unproven", i posted the attack on Kurdish separatist forces by Iranian missiles. Also Iranian snipers and anti-tank weapons were used succesfully in Syria and Iraq.
Deriving does not mean that it's not made by Iran. Many US weapons were also derived from German weapons after world war 2.
We ordered boeings because it's a necessary product, we would have not ordered military products from a country who can switch off the items or stop delivering spare parts in case of war. We learnt from mistake of shah.
Fair fight, Iran against UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi arabia, lets even involve Jordan. Oust British, US, French forces and let it start. Moroccans, algerians are not going to die for you. Qatar, like saudis and UAE have no choice anymore about their tie with USA, if they tell the guest to leave their house, the american guest will kill the house owner, so they are scared. US decided themselves to invade Iraq.

Yemenis have the spirit of resistance, you can massacre them, but you can't defeat them.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

"Unproven", i posted the attack on Kurdish separatist forces by Iranian missiles. Also Iranian snipers and anti-tank weapons were used succesfully in Syria and Iraq.
Deriving does not mean that it's not made by Iran. Many US weapons were also derived from German weapons after world war 2.
We ordered boeings because it's a necessary product, we would have not ordered military products from a country who can switch off the items or stop delivering spare parts in case of war. We learnt from mistake of shah.
Fair fight, Iran against UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi arabia, lets even involve Jordan. Oust British, US, French forces and let it start. Moroccans, algerians are not going to die for you. Qatar, like saudis and UAE have no choice anymore about their tie with USA, if they tell the guest to leave their house, the american guest will kill the house owner, so they are scared. US decided themselves to invade Iraq.

1 missile just across the border. Your Mullah's claim 100's of new system each week (almost) and 99,9% have not been battle proven. Is there footage of that attack? What did it destroy? How many "brotherly" Kurds died?

You ordered Western products as soon as possible. If you could (according to the deal) order Western fighter jets, you would have done the exact same thing. This means that your Mullah's have zero principles and are saying one thing and doing another.

The discussion was about Iran "attacking Arab countries" (not going to happen but it is a theoretical discussion). In such a case Arab countries would be involved.

Are you sure because I am 100% sure that millions (potentially) of Arab AND Muslim volunteers would happily join such a war especially if the holy land was attacked. In particular if that war became racial in nature or sectarian. High likelihood of both. Who would come to your aid other than the few proxies? Which nation or people? Would Sunni Tajiks (many have joined Isis) join you?

KSA is extracting uranium to be used for our future nuclear power plants and working with China on the most sophisticated ballistic missile program in the region with missiles with the biggest warhead and reach in the region. China is the biggest rival of the US. KSA has excellent ties with Russia too. Sold S-400 to us without much fuss. Trump (USA) is silent. Unlike Turkey that is sanctioned and thrown out of the F-35 despite hosting US/NATO bases and doing their policy for 70 years. Unlike KSA. 9/11. Supporting the Iraqi resistance that killed 1000's of US soldiers. This is the clout of KSA. Even Trump is willing to sell highly controversial nuclear tech to us.

They are not afraid of the US but afraid of us annexing them like we de facto annexed Bahrain.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

1 missile just across the border. Your Mullah's claim 100's of new system each week (almost) and 99,9% have not been battle proven. Is there footage of that attack? What did it destroy? How many "brotherly" Kurds died?

You ordered Western products as soon as possible. If you could (according to the deal) order Western fighter jets, you would have done the exact same thing. This means that your Mullah's have zero principles and are saying one thing and doing another.

The discussion was about Iran "attacking Arab countries" (not going to happen but it is a theoretical discussion). In such a case Arab countries would be involved.

Are you sure because I am 100% sure that millions (potentially) of Arab AND Muslim volunteers would happily join such a war especially if the holy land was attacked. In particular if that war became racial in nature or sectarian. High likelihood of both. Who would come to your aid other than the few proxies? Which nation or people? Would Sunni Tajiks (many have joined Isis) join you?

KSA is extracting uranium to be used for our future nuclear power plants and working with China on the most sophisticated ballistic missile program in the region with missiles with the biggest warhead and reach in the region. China is the biggest rival of the US. KSA has excellent ties with Russia too. Sold S-400 to us without much fuss. Trump (USA) is silent. Unlike Turkey that is sanctioned and thrown out of the F-35 despite hosting US/NATO bases and doing their policy for 70 years. Unlike KSA. 9/11. Supporting the Iraqi resistance that killed 1000's of US soldiers. This is the clout of KSA. Even Trump is willing to sell highly controversial nuclear tech to us.

They are not afraid of the US but afraid of us annexing them like we de facto annexed Bahrain.

Anyway gotta go.

The missile was so accurate that it hit the conference room so many of their leaders got killed and wounded. An Iranian drone (also battle proven) filmed the scene. Less brotherly kurds died than few days of houthi attack on their enemies, however important leaders of kurdish separatists were killed. As you see in the clip, Iranian Kurds mourning Iranian soldiers demanded revenge and Iran took revenge.

We will not order western military equipment, we don't trust them, our look is towards Asia because we are Asian and the future is Asian. Trump is relatively silent because US receives a lot of money from Saudi Arabia. Till you pay you can keep them silent. But it's temporary. The proof is indeed what you wrote, they are threatening Nato country Turkey with sanctions, don't think you saudis will be safe. Turkey is militarily much more important and stronger and US really needs Turkey, so calculate what they can do to saudis who are not really needed by US except for some money.

No muslim or arab will risk its life for saudi arabia. Yemen has proven all these fairy tales about millions joining saudi to protect it are fake.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

The missile was so accurate that it hit the conference room so many of their leaders got killed and wounded. An Iranian drone (also battle proven) filmed the scene. Less brotherly kurds died than few days of houthi attack on their enemies, however important leaders of kurdish separatists were killed. As you see in the clip, Iranian Kurds mourning Iranian soldiers demanded revenge and Iran took revenge.

We will not order western military equipment, we don't trust them, our look is towards Asia because we are Asian and the future is Asian. Trump is relatively silent because US receives a lot of money from Saudi Arabia. Till you pay you can keep them silent. But it's temporary. The proof is indeed what you wrote, they are threatening Nato country Turkey with sanctions, don't think you saudis will be safe. Turkey is militarily much more important and stronger and US really needs Turkey, so calculate what they can do to saudis who are not really needed by US except for some money.

No muslim or arab will risk its life for saudi arabia. Yemen has proven all these fairy tales about millions joining saudi to protect it are fake.

Some barefooted (here we can talk about real barefoot) Kurds armed with AK-47 just across the border and that building not being fully obliterated after 7 missiles (!) is not some "out of the world" achievement. Such scenes are occurring weekly in Yemen in regards to Houthi positions being targeted. One Turkish user was so friendly so do some advertisement of that earlier today on this section.

But, was it 50 billion USD, worth of Western civilian equipment is ok, lol?

"Asian" is a quite big category. KSA is "Asian" too.

So far, during the past 70 years, US has done mostly what suited KSA and KSA has been able to do what the regime in power wanted. Even if it went against US interests.

KSA has a much bigger clout than Turkey, much more money, many more resources, much more religious and cultural importance and better ties with China (future superpower). Less dependent (economically) on the West unlike Turkey that relies completely on Europe economically.

Turkey is a NATO member solely because otherwise it would have been swallowed by the USSR. Similar to why Iran was so vehemently supported by the US. It was to protect it from falling under USSR control like during WW2. What does the US need Turkey for? KSA (GCC and all Arab allies) is more important. If what you say was true the US and certainly not Trump (who is about US first) would have acted this way. Turkey is a regional power like KSA but not some superpower.

KSA's moves are all calculated and we know the US better than anyone else in the region. Maybe with the exception of Israel who is their construct.

KSA has never been attacked by Yemen. Some useless ballistic missiles (all intercepted) is not war. KSA territory has never been threatened. Nobody has attacked Makkah or Madinah. Houthis are fellow Arabs likewise. Zaydis too. No racial aspect and hardly any religious as the war is a civil war in Yemen. Arabs don't often meddle in civil wars in the Arab world. So your premise is nonsense.

In the 1980's without any internet, difficult communication, 3-4 TV channels and 5-6 news papers there were Arab volunteers joining Iraq from all Arab countries. In a non-religious war (ideological only) and a Ba'athi ruled Iraq (back then not very religious).

One can only imagine if KSA will be involved that the situation will be totally different and that not only Arabs from all Arab countries will arrive in big masses but likewise Muslims from across the world. That is 100% sure.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Who turned the Turks Muslims in the first place? The answer to this question should enlighten you..

this question is kind of dumb because if you look back... all other nation who're muslim now accepted islam without fighting back... for the most part at least. while arabs themselves couldn't accept the prophet and islam... so the question is irrelevant

Arabs welcomed the Ottomans hence there were not any wars between the parties.

I am not claiming anything. I am writing facts

well my friend... your "facts" are merely your opinion xD

 

[The SC]

this question is kind of dumb because if you look back... all other nation who're muslim now accepted islam without fighting back... for the most part at least. while arabs themselves couldn't accept the prophet and islam... so the question is irrelevant




well my friend... your "facts" are merely your opinion xD

The real dumb thing is that you think you have preceded Arabs to Islam.. add to it your arrogance about history..and in general matters..Without the original fights for Islam by the Arabs you'll still be pagans..are you denying this fact with your ego..

 

[Michael Corleone]

The real dumb thing is that you think you have preceded Arabs to Islam.. add to it your arrogance about history..and in general matters..Without the original fights for Islam by the Arabs you'll still be pagans..are you denying this fact with your ego..

mate i'm not the one misunderstanding and trying to grab peoples throat
besides paganism and arab culture go hand in hand.... any arab who denies that is usually a westernised twat

 

[Titanium100]

Egypt won't do a sh!t for Suadi adventure ..

If shit goes down even Pakistan will **** you from the behind. You haven't seen shit son

 

[The SC]

mate i'm not the one misunderstanding and trying to grab peoples throat
besides paganism and arab culture go hand in hand.... any arab who denies that is usually a westernised twat

That is why Islam was embraced in Arabia.. it brought it out of paganism, and then they brought you out of it too..do you understand what I mean..

 

[Slav Defence]

Stick to the topic and behave yourselves or else I have to grant you exit pass.

 

[The SC]

KSA has a very long way to go because it's a puppet state. If saudi is so strong, why do they beg USA to attack Iran? and why don't they defeat houthis in one week? Just invade their capital if you say it's difficult to fight guerilla warfare. Why do arab puppets in persian gulf host foreign forces if they are strong?

Arab league and summits are always failed, without results, waste of time and money. Look how Qatar responded to the failed summit and how saudi and emirates reacted towards Qatar. There is no unity at all for simple issues, let alone for fighting houthis or any other force. Saudi has no role and will never decide for other countries be it on north africa or middle east to have ties with Iran. At most they throw few billions dollars to temporary prevent ties and people like Sisi know how to milk Saudis to receive such gifts, so this fake unity not only does not work, it will have costs for you as well.

Are you jealous of Arab unity..even OIC has condemned Iran.. keep blabbering your non-sense and take a look at Syria where you are being bombed almost everyday and hiding like rats.. while your media is all propaganda ..And why do you think this arms race is taking place.. who has triggered it in the region?

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

He is the sick @Al Watan Al Arabi.

@WebMaster @Horus @waz @Slav Defence @Jungibaaz @Arsalan @Oscar @Irfan Baloch @TaimiKhan @Zaki @Manticore

This Arabized individual needs to take his medicine and focus on his failed country rather than spreading nonsense on this thread and on topics not related to his struggling entity.

Stick to the topic and behave yourselves or else I have to grant you exit pass.

Please deal with that serial troll and his false accusations. Personal insult too.