Signs of an arms race in the Gulf under the banner of a missile with a missile and a bomb for a bomb

[Peaceful Civilian]

nah man, iran burnt the bridges with barfing out the nuclear help, with chabahar and with kubhusan...they should seriously count their blessings and consider themselves lucky that we aren't putting them on our sh!tlist...

Well, I think after world Wars ,Islamic war can happen . There is clear division. Turkey, Iran , Qatar on one side, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, U.A.E alliance on other side. Some major war is coming .

 

[Aramagedon]

Well, I think after world Wars ,Islamic war can happen . There is clear division. Turkey, Iran , Qatar on one side, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, U.A.E alliance on other side. Some major war is coming .

Egypt won't do a sh!t for Suadi adventure ..

 

[Wilhelm II]

In next 10 years nor Suadi or Emirate would exist.

First you should go back to school from first level to learn how you must write Saudi word!!!!
Second you need change your drugs man they will kill you

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

OKAY, DUDE...do NOT force Pakistan to take a side...we're REALLY trying to be neutral and the peace maker here but if we are left with no choice then we'll take saudi Arabia's side...then your existence will be in trouble! watch it...

First learn how to milk them like Sisi and Trump, then send at least some forces to Yemen instead of emotional rants.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Complete and utter nonsense. First of all I am talking about the ancient historical region known as Arabia and its history. Secondly none of the states are “fake”. Thirdly the Ottomans (majority of the Ottomans were Arabs, the language and culture was more Arabic than anything else, so was most of the land) never had much presence in Arabia and mostly where confined to Hijaz where the native Sharif of Makkah ruled. There are not any conflicts in Arabia other than Yemen which is a North and South divide. Other than that there is a so far completely peaceful dispute between most Arab states and the Qatari regime. As for the royal families (current dynasties in power) all of them have ruled for at least 300 years more or less so nothing fake about them either and they came to power long before the short British presence in the smaller GCC states. As for KSA it was unified by a local dynasty (House of Saud) and is composed of ancient (several millennia old) historical regions of parts of Arabia that KSA is made up of which mainly is Hijaz, Najd, Eastern Arabia, South and the North.
Go educate yourself a bit my Bangladeshi friend or stick to your own region if posting such nonsense. No offense.

In fact the only “fake” (as if all countries past and present in the world where not just lines on a map at the end of the day) we can talk about Kuwait and Qatar. The first should be part of KSA or divided between KSA and Iraq and Qatar should be part of KSA (Al Sharqiya province). UAE a bit of the same story.

ottomans were arabs? lmao

i'm not going to argue with you but give you two videos to watch and then disagree with if you like but these two videos basically describe what i'm trying to say

i am Bangladeshi whose motherland is Kuwait

well... so?

From Iraq to Morocco, all Arab states have an ancient history.. concentrate and find out what is ancient history.. and BTW, think who brought Islam to Bangladesh and when..

if you do not understand what i'm saying it's better not to reply...
modern iraq, the country with it's current border didn't exist back then for ex... same with libya, syria etc
just because a bengal state existed since forever doesn't mean bangladesh existed since forever

Actually the first Saudi state was founded in 1744 before the United States in 1776. 32 years older.

yes but not under the kingdom of saudi arabia flagship and not entirely controlled by the saud's

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

ottomans were arabs? lmao

i'm not going to argue with you but give you two videos to watch and then disagree with if you like but these two videos basically describe what i'm trying to say

well... so?


if you do not understand what i'm saying it's better not to reply...
modern iraq, the country with it's current border didn't exist back then for ex... same with libya, syria etc
just because a bengal state existed since forever doesn't mean bangladesh existed since forever


yes but not under the kingdom of saudi arabia flagship and not entirely controlled by the saud's

Yes, most Ottoman citizens and people were Arabs as were the lands, as was the language (Ottoman Arabic was basically an Arabic dialect), as was the script (Arabic), as was most of the culture. As was the bureaucracy (modeled on the previous Arab Caliphates and the most recent one, Abbasid) and Selim I took over the Caliphate from an Abbasid Caliph based in Cairo in 1517. Of course not by getting the title of Caliph as a gift but by taking it by force and being the strongest ruler of the time. So people (Arabs) accepted him openly hence why there was no Arab-Ottoman wars until 100 years ago (Arab Revolt). Even the name Ottoman derives from the Arabic name (Uthman).

What you wrote is historically and factually incorrect and I argued and showcased that for all to see. It is not about what you or I believe in. Why are you posting some Youtube videos made by some random YouTuber? What is this supposed to prove? The Arab world was united or ruled as part of a Caliphate for over 1000 years, hence the extremely many similarities on every front despite the geographic distances although you can walk from Mauritania in the West to Oman in the East on foot without setting foot in a single non-Arab state.

If you do not recognize the fact that Arabia happens to be one of the oldest regions on the entire planet (with the oldest human presence outside of Eastern Africa and Horn of Africa) and that modern-day KSA is made up of several ancient historical regions, all native to Arabia (most of it in fact) and that the name contains ARABIA (rightly so) and that the House of Saud first created their own state in 1744 (BEFORE the VAST majority of all nation states, including in Europe) I cannot help you.

Using that logic (the borders were different) what the hell do you say about all the neighboring countries whether Arab or non-Arab? Iran's borders have changed constantly. That country did not exist for almost 1000 years between the Arab Conquest and the Safavids. Turkey is a 90 year old creation and so are its borders.

The country that you happen to be based in currently (Ukraine) never existed until 30 years ago yet Eastern Slavs consider it their homeland due to Kievan Rus some 1000 years ago.

EVERY country is "FAKE" in the sense that it is made up of RANDOM borders (not physical) on a map. Borders and entities have ALWAYS come and gone.

 

[The SC]

if you do not understand what i'm saying it's better not to reply...
modern iraq, the country with it's current border didn't exist back then for ex... same with libya, syria etc

Say it like that in the first place..because how you said it created misunderstandings..

 

[GumNaam]

First learn how to milk them like Sisi and Trump, then send at least some forces to Yemen instead of emotional rants.

Oh ok sure no problem. How are those mock ups coming along of the super secret stealth fighter?

 

[Michael Corleone]

Yes, most Ottoman citizens and people were Arabs as were the lands, as was the language (Ottoman Arabic was basically an Arabic dialect), as was the script (Arabic), as was most of the culture. As was the bureaucracy (modeled on the previous Arab Caliphates and the most recent one, Abbasid) and Selim I took over the Caliphate from an Abbasid Caliph based in Cairo in 1517. Of course not by getting the title of Caliph as a gift but by taking it by force and being the strongest ruler of the time. So people (Arabs) accepted him openly hence why there was no Arab-Ottoman wars until 100 years ago (Arab Revolt). Even the name Ottoman derives from the Arabic name (Uthman).

What you wrote is historically and factually incorrect and I argued and showcased that for all to see. It is not about what you or I believe in. Why are you posting some Youtube videos made by some random YouTuber? What is this supposed to prove? The Arab world was united or ruled as part of a Caliphate for over 1000 years, hence the extremely many similarities on every front despite the geographic distances although you can walk from Mauritania in the West to Oman in the East on foot without setting foot in a single non-Arab state.

If you do not recognize the fact that Arabia happens to be one of the oldest regions on the entire planet (with the oldest human presence outside of Eastern Africa and Horn of Africa) and that modern-day KSA is made up of several ancient historical regions, all native to Arabia (most of it in fact) and that the name contains ARABIA (rightly so) and that the House of Saud first created their own state in 1744 (BEFORE the VAST majority of all nation states, including in Europe) I cannot help you.

Using that logic (the borders were different) what the hell do you say about all the neighboring countries whether Arab or non-Arab? Iran's borders have changed constantly. That country did not exist for almost 1000 years between the Arab Conquest and the Safavids. Turkey is a 90 year old creation and so are its borders.

The country that you happen to be based in currently (Ukraine) never existed until 30 years ago yet Eastern Slavs consider it their homeland due to Kievan Rus some 1000 years ago.

EVERY country is "FAKE" in the sense that it is made up of RANDOM borders (not physical) on a map. Borders and entities have ALWAYS come and gone.

second video addresses your opinion... arabs, yes were large part of ottoman population but never considered ottoman, arabs hated the turks and likewise...
the ottoman culture isn't inherently arab but turk... same goes with language and the whole shebang

and the "random youtuber" is actually quite well accredited for his work so that's why i posted them instead of writing it all down what i wanted to elaborate on

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

First learn how to milk them like Sisi and Trump, then send at least some forces to Yemen instead of emotional rants.

What milking are you talking about? Giving two strategic islands to KSA not far from the future NEOM project? Egypt being on KSA's side on every position like ever since Nasser died? Helping a brotherly and sisterly neighborly country that is poised to be a regional power again and making very lucrative investments and Egypt giving priority to Saudi Arabian firms? What is a few billion dollars in loan compared to all that? Even if a few were given for "free". The answer is nothing.

As for the US, KSA has had a positive trade balance with the US for 40+ straight years. Several billions each year in annual trade surplus.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5170.html

"Milking" by selling KSA strategic weapons, nuclear tech, helping KSA's local arms industry (a few days ago Raytheon agree to built high-tech US bombs in KSA)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/under-trump-arms-deal-high-tech-u-s-bombs-be-n1015346

and having the foremost superpower as an ally. KSA should have followed the "highly successful" Iranian model instead, I understand!

second video addresses your opinion... arabs, yes were large part of ottoman population but never considered ottoman, arabs hated the turks and likewise...
the ottoman culture isn't inherently arab but turk... same goes with language and the whole shebang

and the "random youtuber" is actually quite well accredited for his work so that's why i posted them instead of writing it all down what i wanted to elaborate on

"Large part". Try with vast majority. You are blabbering unfunded nonsense. If there was deep hatred Arabs would have picked that entity apart very quickly and not at the end where a few Arab tribes did the job.
Ottoman Turkic was more Arabic than Turkic. Every linguist would tell you that. Turks, unless they can read the Arabic script and understand Arabic, cannot read Ottoman Arabic while most Arabs can. Explain that to me. The script was Arabic too. As was most of the culture (surprise that an entity composed of majority Arabs, lands and modeled on previous Arab Caliphates is similar, WHAT a surprise!) and bureaucracy based on the previous Abbasid Caliphate.

You wrote some utter nonsense. I and other users countered it while providing historical facts and showing the ground realities. Live with it or stop writing nonsense or go concentrate on Bangladesh instead and that neighborhood.

@The SC @Wilhelm II @dani92

 

[Timur]

we are left with no choice then we'll take saudi Arabia's side

indeed you would take sa side no matter who the oponnend would be.. slave mentality.. you gain nothing in hurting your country better stay away from both extremists..

Egypt won't do a sh!t for Suadi adventure ..

they were the most extreem in their actions.. you forgot the ship incdent where egypt fired at one of your ships some years ago as a strong message... dont think arabs wouldnt side against you I even would bet balis would side with sauds against you.. you stay alone you need wise steps and descalation.. (I know the jewish part is pushing for war you may have no chance avoiding it)

 

[Michael Corleone]

What milking are you talking about? Giving two strategic islands to KSA not far from the future NEOM project? Egypt being on KSA's side on every position like ever since Nasser died? Helping a brotherly and sisterly neighborly country that is poised to be a regional power again and making very lucrative investments and Egypt giving priority to Saudi Arabian firms? What is a few billion dollars in loan compared to all that? Even if a few were given for "free". The answer is nothing.

As for the US, KSA has had a positive trade balance with the US for 40+ straight years. Several billions each year in annual trade surplus.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5170.html

"Milking" by selling KSA strategic weapons, nuclear tech, helping KSA's local arms industry (a few days ago Raytheon agree to built high-tech US bombs in KSA)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/under-trump-arms-deal-high-tech-u-s-bombs-be-n1015346

and having the foremost superpower as an ally. KSA should have followed the "highly successful" Iranian model instead, I understand!



"Large part". Try with vast majority. You are blabbering unfunded nonsense. If there was deep hatred Arabs would have picked that entity apart very quickly and not at the end where a few Arab tribes did the job.
Ottoman Turkic was more Arabic than Turkic. Every linguist would tell you that. Turks, unless they can read the Arabic script and understand Arabic, cannot read Ottoman Arabic while most Arabs can. Explain that to me. The script was Arabic too. As was most of the culture (surprise that an entity composed of majority Arabs, lands and modeled on previous Arab Caliphates is similar, WHAT a surprise!) and bureaucracy based on the previous Abbasid Caliphate.

You wrote some utter nonsense. I and other users countered it while providing historical facts and showing the ground realities. Live with it or stop writing nonsense or go concentrate on Bangladesh instead and that neighborhood.

@The SC @Wilhelm II @dani92

so you're telling me arabs had the military economic might it has now to challenge ottoman conquest back in the day?
you're chiming in your two cents and i'm mine... but don't be disrespectful telling me where to go and have an opinion on... this is the internet... not saudi arabia

 

[Timur]

so you're telling me arabs had the military economic might it has now to challenge ottoman conquest back in the day?
you're chiming in your two cents and i'm mine... but don't be disrespectful telling me where to go and have an opinion on... this is the internet... not saudi arabia

dont bother him he is a known public troll..

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

so you're telling me arabs had the military economic might it has now to challenge ottoman conquest back in the day?
you're chiming in your two cents and i'm mine... but don't be disrespectful telling me where to go and have an opinion on... this is the internet... not saudi arabia

Arabs welcomed the Ottomans hence there were not any wars between the parties. You forgot that Arabs played a key role in every aspect of Ottoman society. They were a key part of it. Without Arabs there would be no Ottomans outside of tiny Anatolia and Balkans (not even all of it).

I am not claiming anything. I am writing facts (as did all the other users that wrote similar things) while you wrote a baseless nonsense post initially that is a historical lie so I can easily tell you to stop trolling. Has nothing to do with KSA or no KSA. For a supposed guy that claims to have lived in Kuwait you are pretty clueless and ignorant. Better left in Ukraine, I believe or Bangladesh.

dont bother him he is a known public troll..

Says the Arab-obsessed Arabized and Turkified Anatolian troll. Anyway you were right about 1 thing. In case of any attack on KSA every Arab country and 95% of all Arabs (other than Shia Arab extremists aligned to the Iranian Wilayat al-Faqih Mullah regime) will take the side of their brothers and sisters and help defend the holy land and to defeat the enemy. Just like already happened 1400 years ago and many times in the past. Especially Arabs from countries that the Satanic Republic helped destroy. I am sure that we could easily establish a several million strong Syrian army just alone.

 

[The SC]

First learn how to milk them like Sisi and Trump, then send at least some forces to Yemen instead of emotional rants.

You are seeing Iran like this, so don't try to project it on others.. we know what you are thinking and why..

second video addresses your opinion... arabs, yes were large part of ottoman population but never considered ottoman, arabs hated the turks and likewise...
the ottoman culture isn't inherently arab but turk... same goes with language and the whole shebang

and the "random youtuber" is actually quite well accredited for his work so that's why i posted them instead of writing it all down what i wanted to elaborate on

Who turned the Turks Muslims in the first place? The answer to this question should enlighten you..