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Siachen avalanche: Pakistan welcomes India's offer

Oh poor soldiers are suffering. This is very Dangerous area.Average 100 people die in one year from Pakistan and 130 people from India.
I can't believe they are protecting us even in -60C which is unbearable.
I hope they are safe.
Pak soldiers are there for a reason as India captured area in 1984.
Anyway it is peace time.
East and West Germany were worst enemy in the history, now how they are united.

I can imagine that how difficult is the rescue operation.
We should use Best machinery from the world to save those poor soldiers.

I hope their children and families with listen good news and they should be safe
Though this has lesser relevance to the topic being discused, let me put this straight/
If Pakistan Army did abide by the SHIMLA Agreement and accepted that the teritory divide between INDIA AND PAKISTAN is drawn by a line straight towards north from NJ9842, WE would have not ended up like this fighting a unneceary battle against each other and the nature herself.
Siachen conflict - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
he deadly avalanche that struck the battalion headquarters of the Northern Light Infantry (NLI) on the Siachen Glacier has brought to light the human and economic costs of sustaining the two-decade-long bloody conflict over the possession of the geographically remote and climatically inhospitable area, which has claimed the lives of over 8,000 Indian and Pakistani soldiers between April 1984 and April 2012.

The Saturday's avalanche at the highest and costliest battlefield in the world buried alive at least 125 people, most of them Pakistani soldiers from the Northern Light Infantry. Although, rescue efforts are underway at the tragedy site to find signs of life in the deep snow, the rescuers have yet to find a single body or survivor in the remote area even 48 hours after the disaster.

The catastrophe has once again highlighted the risks of deploying troops to one of the most unfriendly places on earth, reminding decision-makers on both sides of the Indo-Pak border that the longest-running armed conflict between two regular armies in the Twentieth Century continues to bleed Pakistan and India dry for almost three decades now.

The Siachen dispute has resulted in thousands of casualties from both sides, mainly because of adverse climatic conditions and harsh terrain. This is despite the fact that leaders in Islamabad and New Delhi keep acknowledging the human and economic costs of the conflict. According to careful estimates by defence analysts, Pakistan spends approximately Rs15 million a day to maintain three battalions at the Siachen Glacier, which makes Rs450 million a month and Rs5.4 billion a year. On the other hand, the deployment of seven battalions at the Glacier costs India Rs50 million a day, Rs1.5 billion a month and Rs30 billion a year.

On an average, defence experts say, one Pakistani soldier is killed every third day on the Siachen Glacier, showing approximately 100 casualties every year on an average. Similarly, one Indian soldier is killed every other day on the Siachen Glacier, at an annual average of 180 casualties. According to unofficial figures, over 3,000 Pakistani soldiers have lost their lives on the bloody Siachen Glacier between April 1984 and April 2012 as against over 5,000 Indian casualties. At present, there are approximately 7,000 Indian Army troops and about 4,000 Pakistani troops stationed at the Siachen Glacier.

Over 8,000 Indo-Pak soldiers killed in Siachen - thenews.com.pk
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Please read post no. 60.
 
he deadly avalanche that struck the battalion headquarters of the Northern Light Infantry (NLI) on the Siachen Glacier has brought to light the human and economic costs of sustaining the two-decade-long bloody conflict over the possession of the geographically remote and climatically inhospitable area, which has claimed the lives of over 8,000 Indian and Pakistani soldiers between April 1984 and April 2012.

The Saturday's avalanche at the highest and costliest battlefield in the world buried alive at least 125 people, most of them Pakistani soldiers from the Northern Light Infantry. Although, rescue efforts are underway at the tragedy site to find signs of life in the deep snow, the rescuers have yet to find a single body or survivor in the remote area even 48 hours after the disaster.

The catastrophe has once again highlighted the risks of deploying troops to one of the most unfriendly places on earth, reminding decision-makers on both sides of the Indo-Pak border that the longest-running armed conflict between two regular armies in the Twentieth Century continues to bleed Pakistan and India dry for almost three decades now.

The Siachen dispute has resulted in thousands of casualties from both sides, mainly because of adverse climatic conditions and harsh terrain. This is despite the fact that leaders in Islamabad and New Delhi keep acknowledging the human and economic costs of the conflict. According to careful estimates by defence analysts, Pakistan spends approximately Rs15 million a day to maintain three battalions at the Siachen Glacier, which makes Rs450 million a month and Rs5.4 billion a year. On the other hand, the deployment of seven battalions at the Glacier costs India Rs50 million a day, Rs1.5 billion a month and Rs30 billion a year.

On an average, defence experts say, one Pakistani soldier is killed every third day on the Siachen Glacier, showing approximately 100 casualties every year on an average. Similarly, one Indian soldier is killed every other day on the Siachen Glacier, at an annual average of 180 casualties. According to unofficial figures, over 3,000 Pakistani soldiers have lost their lives on the bloody Siachen Glacier between April 1984 and April 2012 as against over 5,000 Indian casualties. At present, there are approximately 7,000 Indian Army troops and about 4,000 Pakistani troops stationed at the Siachen Glacier.

Over 8,000 Indo-Pak soldiers killed in Siachen - thenews.com.pk
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I don't know what kind of a moral boost that the people of Pakistan get when their media write stories of more casuality on the indian side and vise versa, but is the life a army man so cheap that after enjoying the warmth that we get from the blanket he has provided we bost about the number of deaths on each side, though we are enemies where is the respect and dignity for our soliders from the very own civilians they swore to protect.
 
he deadly avalanche that struck the battalion headquarters of the Northern Light Infantry (NLI) on the Siachen Glacier has brought to light the human and economic costs of sustaining the two-decade-long bloody conflict over the possession of the geographically remote and climatically inhospitable area, which has claimed the lives of over 8,000 Indian and Pakistani soldiers between April 1984 and April 2012.

The Saturday's avalanche at the highest and costliest battlefield in the world buried alive at least 125 people, most of them Pakistani soldiers from the Northern Light Infantry. Although, rescue efforts are underway at the tragedy site to find signs of life in the deep snow, the rescuers have yet to find a single body or survivor in the remote area even 48 hours after the disaster.

The catastrophe has once again highlighted the risks of deploying troops to one of the most unfriendly places on earth, reminding decision-makers on both sides of the Indo-Pak border that the longest-running armed conflict between two regular armies in the Twentieth Century continues to bleed Pakistan and India dry for almost three decades now.

The Siachen dispute has resulted in thousands of casualties from both sides, mainly because of adverse climatic conditions and harsh terrain. This is despite the fact that leaders in Islamabad and New Delhi keep acknowledging the human and economic costs of the conflict. According to careful estimates by defence analysts, Pakistan spends approximately Rs15 million a day to maintain three battalions at the Siachen Glacier, which makes Rs450 million a month and Rs5.4 billion a year. On the other hand, the deployment of seven battalions at the Glacier costs India Rs50 million a day, Rs1.5 billion a month and Rs30 billion a year.

On an average, defence experts say, one Pakistani soldier is killed every third day on the Siachen Glacier, showing approximately 100 casualties every year on an average. Similarly, one Indian soldier is killed every other day on the Siachen Glacier, at an annual average of 180 casualties. According to unofficial figures, over 3,000 Pakistani soldiers have lost their lives on the bloody Siachen Glacier between April 1984 and April 2012 as against over 5,000 Indian casualties. At present, there are approximately 7,000 Indian Army troops and about 4,000 Pakistani troops stationed at the Siachen Glacier.

Over 8,000 Indo-Pak soldiers killed in Siachen - thenews.com.pk
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most deaths occured b4 2000's..................besides don't give a .pk website..........and these reports are not official!!
 
Its in the best interest of both the nations to with draw from that hight and operate unmaned gun post or some thing like that.

More than 100% agree...The soldier fights and the kings are heroes (Sadly!)...If bilawal bhutto and Rahul have to spent two days (Even we who just doing keyboard service) there with -70degree celsius. I'm sure these politician will understand very early that this area needs to be declared a peace centre...We have a lot of problems in our countries, so to spend money over there...
.Mostly, soldier with very poor backgrounds are suffering there to serve their families (O God!)....
Let peace give a chance at least this point...both sides wish a peace over this at least...but trust is a problem (and will remain I guess)...Why the so-called those who are plunged in this regions take an action of a mediator after this most tragic incident by considering it a gesture to resolve it earliest...
Why the so-called UN commission can't give a hand to establish a trust and some common treaty at least over this issue between Pakistan and India...peace now over this or perhap God knows...
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More than 100% agree...The soldier fights and the kings are heroes (Sadly!)...If bilawal bhutto and Rahul have to spent two days (Even we who just doing keyboard service) there with -70degree celsius. I'm sure these politician will understand very early that this area needs to be declared a peace centre...We have a lot of problems in our countries, so to spend money over there...
.Mostly, soldier with very poor backgrounds are suffering there to serve their families (O God!)....
Let peace give a chance at least this point...both sides wish a peace over this at least...but trust is a problem (and will remain I guess)...Why the so-called those who are plunged in this regions take an action of a mediator after this most tragic incident by considering it a gesture to resolve it earliest...
Why the so-called UN commission can't give a hand to establish a trust and some common treaty at least over this issue between Pakistan and India...peace now over this or perhap God knows...
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another sane minded pakistani who wants peace..................seeing a lot of them these days:)
 
More than 100% agree...The soldier fights and the kings are heroes (Sadly!)...If bilawal bhutto and Rahul have to spent two days (Even we who just doing keyboard service) there with -70degree celsius. I'm sure these politician will understand very early that this area needs to be declared a peace centre...We have a lot of problems in our countries, so to spend money over there...
.Mostly, soldier with very poor backgrounds are suffering there to serve their families (O God!)....
Let peace give a chance at least this point...both sides wish a peace over this at least...but trust is a problem (and will remain I guess)...Why the so-called those who are plunged in this regions take an action of a mediator after this most tragic incident by considering it a gesture to resolve it earliest...
Why the so-called UN commission can't give a hand to establish a trust and some common treaty at least over this issue between Pakistan and India...peace now over this or perhap God knows...
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its not political case..our military dont want to loose siachin and advantage.

and rahul,bilawal both are chors of nations...so choose smone else as example.
 
Screw the fake ego... 139 lives are much more important... than this political crap! Think of the young men trapped in tht icy hell... and their loved ones waiting for them since days... hoping and praying tht their sons come back home alive..
 
im out of this debate ohh sorry ego fight....my last advice is we are next to you guys...so IA can have some idea about those terrains...it will be stupidity to reject the offer from....just put all over ego's try to save some of those people as quick as possible...we fought many wars...what is result....lost many lives from both sides...and still we are hitting others ego by talking, we bring down your birds....does anybody thought about an soul inside the machine trying to protect every one....we can bring or make many machines but not life.....many pakistani people coming to India for surgeries or treatment,did GoI rejected or restricted them not to come India.....think like human not like street dogs....

im out of this debate ohh sorry ego fight....my last advice is we are next to you guys...so IA can have some idea about those terrains...it will be stupidity to reject the offer from....just put all over ego's try to save some of those people as quick as possible...we fought many wars...what is result....lost many lives from both sides...and still we are hitting others ego by talking, we bring down your birds....does anybody thought about an soul inside the machine trying to protect every one....we can bring or make many machines but not life.....many pakistani people coming to India for surgeries or treatment,did GoI rejected or restricted them not to come India.....think like human not like street dogs..........
 
Screw the fake ego... 139 lives are much more important... than this political crap! Think of the young men trapped in tht icy hell... and their loved ones waiting for them since days... hoping and praying tht their sons come back home alive..

are you seriously kidding us?, your comments dont make any sense, because the army guys are hired toput theirlives on the line, if its all aboutpolitics and stuff, there shouldnt be army presence there at all
 
are you seriously kidding us?, your comments dont make any sense, because the army guys are hired toput theirlives on the line, if its all aboutpolitics and stuff, there shouldnt be army presence there at all

Il pay you 20,000 per month (keeping in mind the salary of a LT is lower thn tht) go serve in siachin n face the music... and guard the frontier n be ready to die anytime... u willing? its not just a few "takas" tht those men went there for.... its something people like u wouldnt understand... its called "HONOUR,SACRIFICE,LOVE FOR THE NATION"... U are digusting.
 
are you seriously kidding us?, your comments dont make any sense, because the army guys are hired toput theirlives on the line, if its all aboutpolitics and stuff, there shouldnt be army presence there at all

It is insulting to the profession of arms to say they are ' hired' to stick their neck out as suggested above. It also displays poor judgement.

I sincerely suggest that such thought are not voiced in the presence of soldiers any where in the world least of all in India & Pak where we have volunteer armies and not conscripts.
 
Here is the answer for who ever was asking about China...

China expresses condolences, considers aid for Siachen avalanche

China on Monday expressed its condolences for the at least 124 Pakistani soldiers and 11 civilians still missing following Saturday’s avalanche on the Siachen glacier, but did not say whether it would be providing either technical assistance or military support to help with rescue operations in the sensitive region.

“We express our condolences to the Pakistani victims in the avalanche and express our sympathies to the bereaved families,” Foreign Ministry spokesperson Liu Weimin told reporters.

Rescuers on Sunday continued to struggle through the heavy snow and fallen boulders that had buried the headquarters of a battalion in the Giari area, as hopes for survivors faded in the harsh 15,000 feet-high terrain of Siachen.

Mr. Liu did not reply to a question on whether China would be sending financial support, technical assistance or personnel to Siachen to help with on-going rescue operations, although diplomatic sources said China was considering providing some form of assistance.

The People’s Liberation Army (PLA) has close ties with the Pakistani Army, and sent several thousand troops, mainly from its engineering and construction corps, to assist in flood-relief in the disputed Gilgit-Baltistan region of ***************** Kashmir (***) in 2010.

China provided $ 250 million to aid rescue and recovery operations following the 2010 floods. This was the largest-ever grant of humanitarian aid by China to any foreign country, and also marked the first instance of China sending aid over land. The government and the PLA dispatched 101 trucks to Gilgit from the Xinjiang region, which neighbours ***, over the Karakoram highway to the dry port at Sust through the Khunjerab pass.

Diplomats said China would most certainly send some form of financial and technical assistance to help rescue work. While the experience from two years ago would also enable China to dispatch personnel support quickly, it would carefully weigh the option of sending military personnel considering the concerns that were raised by the posting of PLA troops in Gilgit in 2010.

The presence of PLA troops in the disputed region worried India, even prompting Indian officials in Beijing to bring up the matter with the Chinese government two years ago. Chinese officials then assured India that the personnel were present only for flood-relief work and to provide humanitarian assistance.

Indian Army Chief General V.K. Singh said last year that there were between 3,000 and 4,000 Chinese military personnel present in Gilgit, including construction working teams and personnel for security purposes, according to Indian estimates. He said many of the troops were engineering corps but were also, as in the case of the Indian Army's support personnel as well, “combat engineers” and in some way still “part of the PLA”.

The Hindu : News / International : China expresses condolences, considers aid for Siachen avalanche
 
Here is the answer for who ever was asking about China...

China expresses condolences, considers aid for Siachen avalanche

So they are still considering ? When are they actually going to take the decision? It's a rescue/recovery mission ffs. It's not an earthquake where millions would need help for a long long time. Strange words from the all weather friend when foes like the Americans are out there working on the rescue mission, heck, even the eternal enemy India also offered help already.
 
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