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[Guest]

But that china is not congruent with even today's china minus autonomous provinces.

And both facts about one ruler and confuciusm are not correct.China was ruled by mongols who followed shamanism and buddhism.

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i said mostly not all the time, and it doesn't matter.
the point is they (the emperors) have the exprience to run a large country with huge population, and their exprience and findings were well preserved. even the CCP leaders are following their practise, mostly again .


one more thing, confuciusm is not a religion, it is a pholosophy. mongols learns them too.

 

[anonymus]

But that china is not congruent with even today's china minus autonomous provinces.

And both facts about one ruler and confuciusm are not correct.China was ruled by mongols who followed shamanism and buddhism.

Genghis Khan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i said mostly not all the time, and it doesn't matter.
the point is they (the emperors) have the exprience to run a large country with huge population, and their exprience and findings were well preserved. even the CCP leaders are following their practise, mostly again .

then that would be the case with all major civilisations.

one more thing, confuciusm is not a religion, it is a pholosophy. mongols learns them too.

Every polyatheist religion could also pass off as as a philosphy.

 

[jbond197]

But that china is not congruent with even today's china minus autonomous provinces.

And both facts about one ruler and confuciusm are not correct.China was ruled by mongols who followed shamanism and buddhism.

Genghis Khan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i said mostly not all the time, and it doesn't matter.
the point is they (the emperors) have the exprience to run a large country with huge population, and their exprience and findings were well preserved. even the CCP leaders are following their practise, mostly again .

Dude, China as a whole as it stands today was united only twice once under the rule of Manchus and then under Mongols.

Mongolian Yuan Dynasty Map

Manchu Qing Dynasty Map.

Both these are out castes in China today. So the point you are trying to make does not stand wrt to Hans as they never were united before 1949 and never ruled whole China since the time civilization came into existence..

 

[Guest]

then that would be the case with all major civilisations.

not that much when size and popluation are taken into consideration

 

[Avatar]

I hope you're not talking about IVC which is in Pakistan, Bharati.

Just like you, many other Pakistanis suffer from the same delusion and identity crisis that constantly contradicts itself. Your own history text books state that Pakistan was founded either during the birth of Islam or during the Mughal rule in India, depending on which text book you read. Even if both were considered true, there is no way Pakistan could have existed more than 5000 years ago, given that Jesus was born 2012 years ago and Islam was born only after that.

 

[RazPaK]

Just like you, many other Pakistanis suffer from the same delusion and identity crisis that constantly contradicts itself. Your own history text books state that Pakistan was founded either during the birth of Islam or during the Mughal rule in India, depending on which text book you read. Even if both were considered true, there is no way Pakistan could have existed more than 5000 years ago, given that Jesus was born 2012 years ago and Islam was born only after that.

You Bharatis claim the Taj Mahal. Plus the people have always lived there. Not you dravidians. All is fair in love and war.

 

[Rafi]

Just like you, many other Pakistanis suffer from the same delusion and identity crisis that constantly contradicts itself. Your own history text books state that Pakistan was founded either during the birth of Islam or during the Mughal rule in India, depending on which text book you read. Even if both were considered true, there is no way Pakistan could have existed more than 5000 years ago, given that Jesus was born 2012 years ago and Islam was born only after that.

No the people of Pakistan are the same as the ones living on this land 5,000 years ago, we have the same DNA, and they had nothing to do with modern india.

 

[IndoCarib]

No the people of Pakistan are the same as the ones living on this land 5,000 years ago, we have the same DNA, and they had nothing to do with modern india.

Yes. 5000 years ago there was Pakistan

 

[Rafi]

Yes. 5000 years ago there was Pakistan

Yes - people make the country, and we are the direct descendants of the people who lived here on this land 5,000 years ago.

 

[Avatar]

Yes - people make the country, and we are the direct descendants of the people who lived here on this land 5,000 years ago.

Let me rephrase. Before the year 1947, Pakistan was just a concept in the heads of people. Before 1900, there was no concept of Pakistan. Pakistan came into existence solely on the basis of religion and this is known as the Indian subcontinent for a reason. Columbus wanted to reach India, not Pakistan. There is no similarity in Pakistani culture and IVC.

 

[Avatar]

You Bharatis claim the Taj Mahal. Plus the people have always lived there. Not you dravidians. All is fair in love and war.

What does the Taj Mahal have to do with anything ? It is recognized as a Mughal monument and is one of the 7 wonders of the world. India does not need to manipulate history.

You need to step out of your imaginary little comfy world and give reality a glance. The fact that you can generalize the most diverse population on Earth goes to show what your intellectual capability is.

 

[Rafi]

indian can cry and whine all the want, the people of the IVC are from us and we are from them. Just as the ancient Greeks belong to the modern Greek people.

 

[R-DB]

indian can cry and whine all the want, the people of the IVC are from us and we are from them. Just as the ancient Greeks belong to the modern Greek people.

what is ivc?

 

[jbond197]

Rafi,

Almost another Pakistani you meet claims to have Arab, Persian and Turk ancestry so how exactly they became IVC descendants.. The people of the region who converted can claim to be IVC descendant though..

There will be no issues if you accept all of you were the people of land who converted later and none are from the armies of the looters & invaders..

 

[Rafi]

Rafi,

Almost another Pakistani you meet claims to have Arab, Persian and Turk ancestry so how exactly they became IVC descendants.. The people of the region who converted can claim to be IVC descendant though..

I can't speak for others, but I am a proud Pakistani Punjabi Jatt, my ancestor Manga was a cavalry commander allied with Porus against Alexander, the DNA extracted from the bones of the IVC people - are identical with current ethnic populations of Pakistan.