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September 03, 2014

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All of Pakistan has its eyes focused on Islamabad nowadays. Every single movement of the leaders and the protestors is being scrutinized.


Every single Pakistani seems to have their own theory of what’s going on there and has their own opinion on who is wrong and who is right.

However, what I want to focus on in this post is one single aspect of the current political crisis…

The American statement!

Yes… The one in which they claimed that they do not back any unconstitutional measures.

Hmmm….just like they ‘did not’ back decades of dictatorships in Pakistan. Just like they ‘did not’ back drone attacks in Pakistan.

Well the good thing is that there was a fitting rebuttal to the American statement by Imran Khan, where he firmly told the Americans not to meddle in Pakistan’s internal affairs.

But… Yes, there is always a but! But the thing is, that a statement is very easy to make, but going the distance to implement it can be very difficult. Don’t get me wrong, I am not doubting his intentions, it’s just that America’s interest in Pakistan are too critical for them to just step aside because of one statement from the Kaptan.

Let’s have a closer look at the US-Pak relationship in the past.

America – Ally or Foe?

Pakistan has been a useful ally (read toy) for the US for most of our history. During the period 1954 to 1969, Pakistan was considered an ally for safeguarding of Middle East oil and as a pawn for eavesdropping on the USSR during the cold war.

From 1979 to 1989, we were at the forefront of the proxy war against the USSR in Afghanistan.

After 9/11, Pakistan was again a tool to be used in another American war, this time the War on Terror.

The intermittent years where the US did not see any use for Pakistan – i.e. there was no pressing U.S. security issue – the US conveniently distanced itself from anything Pakistani.

During the period of undying love, the US would have backdoor secret (open secret, that is) relationships and meetings with us and give us billions of dollars without any accountability. But when this love died out (all of a suddenly usually) all aid would be cut off and sanctions would come into play.

A self-proclaimed promoter of democracy, our ally has supported every Pakistani dictator just because it was the need of the hour.

So basically when we were useful they took us to bed and once they were done with us, they didn’t call back till they were in the mood again.

It’s not that Pakistan did not get anything out of this relationship. A lot of money poured into Pakistan. Where did the money go is another question! It definitely did not trickle down to the masses.

However, it was not just the US’s betrayal that we had to suffer. We were and still are facing repercussions of the wars we fought for them.

Extremism was bred in Pakistan for the Afghan war, after which we got stuck with the millions of refugees. Post the Afghan war, we had to baby sit the Taliban for the world and now the Taliban – who we so lovingly brought up – are out to destroy us.

Present Day Concerns of our ‘Ally’

Today, with the exit of American forces from Afghanistan, Pakistan has become a policy problem once more for the US; a problem they do not know how to solve yet.

They need us to keep a check on Afghanistan, especially with its extremely volatile situation, but they fear that Pakistan might fall into the hands of extremists just like after the Afghan war; except this time around we are Nuclear! The US President’s chief of staff has described Pakistan as ‘two hundred million pissed-off people, plus nuclear weapons. Scary shit!’

There is also another force that has become potent enough to drive US policy towards Pakistan; and that is India. With its growing economic clout and deep involvement in Afghanistan, India is well placed to influence the US policy towards Pakistan. Which for us is extremely dangerous as one is an out and out enemy and the other is an enemy in disguise.

The Statement

The current statement by the Americans, in my opinion, is more about letting us know that they are watching. The statement is quite generic when they say that we do not support anything ‘unconstitutional’ because the parties involved both claim that they are well within their constitutional rights.

In my opinion, the statement, in light of history, doesn’t matter at all because even if the military takes over the US will be thoroughly supportive. This is because in the current regional situation it will be easier for them to deal with one person rather than an embattled Prime Minister.

The best that could be done in this situation was exactly what Imran Khan did, give them a shut up call as there is nothing more that can actually be done.

Why Can’t We Stop Them From Meddling?

It’s not rocket science! Because we live off their donations of course! We get military, civilian, and all sorts of aid from America. We can’t bite the hand that feeds us!

A shut up call, although it takes guts, is not enough because we need to be independent in order to really force them to back off.

And believe you me, this can be achieved! Public opinion about our relationship with the US is at its all-time low. The masses realize that Pakistan has lost much more than it has gained in this relationship and will support any decision in this regard.

The only thing that is needed is the political will to do it. Even if the measures are difficult the public will support them if they are for the right cause i.e. becoming independent. And the only person that seems (double emphasis on ‘seems’)to have that will is none other than Imran Khan.

The reason I say this is that he is not corrupt. Corruption takes away a lot of your options as you tend to build and save your assets by any means rather than work for the country. And this is what all our previous leaders have done.

Right now all depends on how the current political scene plays out and I am afraid if history repeats itself we will remain ‘ghulam’s’ for the foreseeable future.

Shut Up America | Pakistan Insider
 
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I like this Imran Khan.
get the us the hell out of there man.

He's not 'anti American' as many media pundits would like to jump the gun and claim. He has stated clearly that he is willing to work with the US but not under the terms agreed in 2001, which make Pakistan all but subservient tool in order to achieve the the US foreign policy goals in the region. Those terms and conditions were agreed to by an unelected military dictator which are null and void under a democratic structure and therefore must be re-written.
 
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He's not 'anti American' as many media pundits would like to jump the gun and claim. He has stated clearly that he is willing to work with the US but not under the terms agreed in 2001, which make Pakistan all but subservient tool in order to achieve the the US foreign policy goals in the region. Those terms and conditions were agreed to by an unelected military dictator which are null and void under a democratic structure and therefore must be re-written.

if the guy can control the radicals in Pakistan he's got my vote of confidence.
 
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if the guy can control the radicals in Pakistan he's got my vote of confidence.

Radicalization in Pakistan started in 1979, taking it down will take time and careful micromanagement.

Even BBC is supporting Nawaz Sharif. Something is fishy, if USA and UK starts supporting a particular politician or a dictator.

BBC is funded by the Royal Foreign Office. Their agenda is to defend British foreign policy goals. I hope this explains why 'Nawaz' is feeling the BBC's editorial love affair. ;)
 
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Why Can’t We Stop Them From Meddling?
It’s not rocket science! Because we live off their donations of course! We get military, civilian, and all sorts of aid from America. We can’t bite the hand that feeds us!
A shut up call, although it takes guts, is not enough because we need to be independent in order to really force them to back off.
And believe you me, this can be achieved! Public opinion about our relationship with the US is at its all-time low. The masses realize that Pakistan has lost much more than it has gained in this relationship and will support any decision in this regard.
The only thing that is needed is the political will to do it. Even if the measures are difficult the public will support them if they are for the right cause i.e. becoming independent. And the only person that seems (double emphasis on ‘seems’)to have that will is none other than Imran Khan.

It will take much more than guts or will to wean Pakistan off the foreign aid teat. It will take real economic progress, and that will take much more than just one man, be it IK or anyone else, to deliver that, and even then it will decades to achieve.

In short, when Uncle Sam speaks, Pakistan will listen for years and years to come.
 
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Respect comes when you have independent government

both CNN / BBC did not cover the protest after 18 days a small news came in front

In the past BBC used to cover quite a bit

If this was a small protest against china it would be all Hollywood news

all coverage went to Ukraine

Heck even nationally most of the TV stations were told to not show live coverage


To brand Imran Khan anything but a Open Minded man or Nationalist at most is crazy. The man genuinely cares about doing something good for his nation.

And commands a respectable position in Educated class world wide who understand his views and what he is all about

His vision is very simple

Friend , but not a Servant
Modern but not with out Morality
Tradition but not with out open minded to new ideas
Focus on Social Welfare society , not Casinos and Hotels


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One of few politicians in Pakistan , who actually have a Political Science Degree from International Institutes
If Imran Khan was in USA, USA would be building communities and hospitals on Mars
 
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if the guy can control the radicals in Pakistan he's got my vote of confidence.

I agree. WAIT, he is doing this protest WITH some of the Radicals. Take a look at how much damage happened, Parliament and all attacked, innocents and policemen killed. AND someone had to open up the thread called "Shut Up America"....... instead of seeing how these two idiots doing violent protests are trying to shut up the voices of 200 MILLION people through a failed little show!

BBC is funded by the Royal Foreign Office. Their agenda is to defend British foreign policy goals. I hope this explains why 'Nawaz' is feeling the BBC's editorial love affair. ;)

What would you call the SAME BBC if it was writing articles in IK's favor that destroying your country's buildings and attacking other places is right??

Please don't tell me you'll term that as "the British Foreign Office supporting the democracy through IK" lol
 
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For a Independent Pakistan , it matters not what the opinion is outside of Pakistan
 
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Radicalization in Pakistan started in 1979, taking it down will take time and careful micromanagement.

And the first step is to have a running democratic system so that people learn to dialogue in the Parliament vs. killing each others in the street. Its democracy that changes the culture of a society by putting Parliament and Judiciary above all other institutes to settle human and political issues. Kind of like what happened in Pakistan where the Parliament has come up as the supreme power finally. The same IK who abandoned the same Parliament, was forced to send his people there today.

For a Independent Pakistan , it matters not what the opinion is outside of Pakistan

Of course it does. You live in the world and have friends and neighbors and enemies like how as a family you have friends and family and neighbors. Will you live your life without ever doing or considering anything about your neighbors or family or friends?
 
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All of the ills of Pakistan are the fault of the Pakistan Army. They feel no shame in forcing Pakistan to be subservient to the United States. Pakistani military actually tries it's utmost best to keep the Pakistani citizens living in fear of the United States.

President/COAS General (retired) Pervez Musharraf in September 2006:

"United States said that if you don't help us, be prepared to be bombed back to the Stone Age."


CNN interview with Pervez Musharraf - Video Dailymotion
 
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Pakistani military actually tries it's utmost best to keep the Pakistani citizens living in fear of the United States.
President/COAS General (retired) Pervez Musharraf in September 2006:
"United States said that if you don't help us, be prepared to be bombed back to the Stone Age."

And it was the SAME United States that you shut your doors on for SIX months when the Civilian Government complained about the unfortunate incident that happened at a check post.....so how come the US didn't attack??? Because you have to have democratic people that can negotiate, explain and get things done the right way and that's ONLY Civilians. Military produces the best soldiers, not the Economists, Politicians or the Businessmen. Different expertise.
 
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He's not 'anti American' as many media pundits would like to jump the gun and claim. He has stated clearly that he is willing to work with the US but not under the terms agreed in 2001, which make Pakistan all but subservient tool in order to achieve the the US foreign policy goals in the region. Those terms and conditions were agreed to by an unelected military dictator which are null and void under a democratic structure and therefore must be re-written.
Not likely. NRO is to be null and void too then and much of the parliamentarian will be disqualified, including Nawaz.

So, as shujhat says "mitti pao."
 
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