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A sane article on the need to do away with the tomfoolery at Indo Pak borders.


Showing the mirror to ourselves | Opinion | DAWN.COM

I HAVE written about this before; it begs to be written about again: the ludicrous, ridiculous, absurd, outrageous, bizarre (yes, I have the thesaurus open for it is important to use all the descriptive words for something so very childish, immature, puerile and adolescent) so-called flag-lowering ceremony at the Wagah/Attari border between the sorry countries of India and Pakistan.

Let me lay my case before you one more time, reader. First and foremost, the lowering of national flags at the sound of the haunting notes of Retreat (which used to invariably bring tears to my eyes in the days that I served our army, for they brought back thoughts of friends no more, of comrades who had left the unit for other duties elsewhere, those who we loved and appreciated as good soldiers no longer among us) when the troops are at rest after a full day of difficult, sometimes dangerous, duties, is a solemn and dignified exercise, done with grace, quiet and respect.Not the loud show of completely misplaced swagger and fake bravado and machismo and braggadocio on display every evening on the Pakistan-India border, with soldiers from both sides preening themselves, twirling their moustaches, glaring at the other, making non-regulation drill movements which have nothing whatsoever to do with the drill manuals of either country, and generally making idiots of themselves, and by sure extension, of their commanders.

It is a shameful exercise which inflames the crowds on both sides, that sit in specially constructed stands, listening to martial songs from their respective sides of the border. Whilst relations between the two nuclear-armed countries should be more civilised, more polite, this uncivilised behaviour is allowed to be demonstrated to the whole world that surely sniggers behind our backs for the cretinous fools we make of ourselves.

Let me appeal once more to the sensible (or is it asking for too much) in the two governments to please put an immediate stop to this scandalous show. If there is no agreement between the two countries to discontinue this violent display, let our country do it on its own. If India wants to continue acting like a court jester to the crowds let it do so. Let us prove that we are more sober, more respectful of our flag than others are of theirs.

Incidentally, some time ago there was a news item that India was going to unilaterally tone down this nonsensical show upon which I recall having written a laudatory piece congratulating our Indian brothers and sisters for doing the right thing. I was shocked, therefore, to see on PBS television a warming-up show for the independence days of both countries just the other day. The same old tamasha was put on display with the same old jingoism. Shame on both countries.

I might add that the recent meeting of the foreign ministers of Pakistan and India, and the vibes coming from both capitals are, thankfully, most positive, and a pointer to better relations in the future.

May one exhort both countries to continue on this path — to open our borders to one another’s citizens, to increase direct trade over the land route and direct contact between the political leaders of both countries. I want to be able to drive to Amritsar from Lahore in the morning for thandi khui dian poorian, just as my friends from Amritsar want to drive to Gujranwala for tikka kebabs. Would that this would be possible one day, and that the two countries live in peace and harmony.

For which, of course, the dinosaurs on both sides will have to be left behind: let them gnash their teeth in rage and anger; let them tear out their own flesh, for if the people of both countries come together in peace they can do nothing. It is imperative, therefore, that Sardar Manmohan Singh accept the invitation to visit Pakistan at the earliest followed by a visit by our prime minister to India. That should be followed by visits of Presidents Asif Ali Zardari and Pratibha Patil to each other’s countries.

And as suggested earlier in this same space, Indian army chief Gen Vijay Kumar Singh should visit Pakistan (after the visits of the heads of government and state), and the very next week Pakistan’s army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani should visit India.

We simply must, the Indians and us, show the world that we are a civilised people who respect the mass of the people on either side of the border; that we are not hell-bent on using our respective bums on each other’s unsuspecting and innocent populations. Come on, gentlemen, get real, get with it. For there are no winners in any zero-sum game.

On Sunday night, I saw The Help a very moving film about the experiences of African-American maids working in white households in Jackson, Mississippi, the centre of anti-black sentiment, in the late 1950s/early 1960s. As I had noted before, the treatment of these blacks by white supremacists was far better than what our domestics face in our homes and police stations in both Pakistan and northern India today.

The years have taught me that we must be one of the most racist people on the planet, the one relief being given to the domestics and farm labour during the time of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto when these poor unfortunates finally found a voice. And the backlash, as in The Help, was something to behold: the Punjab glitterati turning against ZAB saying: “Yaar Bhutto nein taan nokkar hi kharab kar dittay nain” (‘Buddy, Bhutto has even spoilt [our] servants’).
 
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Pakistan beats india everyday at wahgha so that ceremony is going nowhere....it ruins your international image everyday when your thin BSF guards either break their knee or lose their colourful turbans or pee within while trying to replicate Pakistan Ranger moves.

dawn news is just another corrupt news channel with its own aspirations,inclinations and pro indian motives.
 
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Pakistan beats india everyday at wahgha so that ceremony is going nowhere....it ruins your international image everyday when your thin BSF guards either break their knee or lose their colourful turbans or pee within while trying to replicate Pakistan Ranger moves.

dawn news is just another corrupt news channel with its own aspirations,inclinations and pro indian motives.

Are you being paid for being stupid or are you just being yourself?
 
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Pakistan beats india everyday at wahgha so that ceremony is going nowhere....it ruins your international image everyday when your thin BSF guards either break their knee or lose their colourful turbans or pee within while trying to replicate Pakistan Ranger moves.dawn news is just another corrupt news channel with its own aspirations,inclinations and pro indian motives.

Personally I couldnt care less if the ceremony goes on or does not. India has started placing ladies to compete with male Pak rangers now..

This article is written by an Ex Serviceman who is a Pakistani & published in a Pak newspaper.

Assuming for a moment that the BS highlighted above is correct , Pak would be well advised to shift the ' competetion' to other fields - economic for instance.
 
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India has started placing ladies to compete with male Pak rangers now..

what happned to your men?i heard they break a knee everyday:lol:

Pakistan won

now u paid a traitor to write an article so that u can give an impression that voice is coming from within Pakistan to tone down wagah ceremony....

the parade is going nowhere...its chitar parade for india and its free
 
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Personally I couldnt care less if the ceremony goes on or does not. India has started placing ladies to compete with male Pak rangers now..

This article is written by an Ex Serviceman who is a Pakistani & published in a Pak newspaper.

Assuming for a moment that the BS highlighted above is correct , Pak would be well advised to shift the ' competetion' to other fields - economic for instance.

why have u got a problem with what we do on our side of the border...if u dont have the balls and dont wanna do it just dont do it...why do u expect us to stop and thereby resulting in you stopping it too......if u are ashamed of your bsf guys and u know they cant pull off the Pakistan Ranger moves simply dont do it...lock your gate with "elfi" and remove your flag pole.....we will raise our flag everyday there
 
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Let the Pakistanis act how they want. Indians should be sensible and stop this circus show. I first thought the Wagha ceremony was about friendship but then realized it was just a road show to express mutual animosity. This proves that we are just barking(dancing) dogs without any resolve.
 
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I like the way the Koreans keep their DMZ, we should copy them.

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I think we should have hot cheer leaders on both sides of the border to compete instead of these 6ft + jawans.

This will help us reduce animosity and promote love on both sides :lol:
 
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Many of the men that take part in this pompous show end up with damaged knees.. as most will figure out.
The ceremony should stay.. but with the ridiculous aggression toned down.
And yousuf.. read the paper.. I have it in hard print in my home.
There is NOTHING offensive in this.. or elsewhere.
And no Pakistani beats India.. or vice versa..
The only thing they beat the crap out of are their respective patella's and knee joints.
 
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Many of the men that take part in this pompous show end up with damaged knees.. as most will figure out.
The ceremony should stay.. but with the ridiculous aggression toned down.
And yousuf.. read the paper.. I have it in hard print in my home.
There is NOTHING offensive in this.. or elsewhere.
And no Pakistani beats India.. or vice versa..The only thing they beat the crap out of are their respective patella's and knee joints.

Another sane voice on the subject.
 
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Stupid drama should end , Hopefully some creative minds (if there is any) in GOP and GOI thinks over hard and do some thing rather productive on WAGAH that would be a Giant step towards peace!
 
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Stupid drama should end , Hopefully some creative minds (if there is any) in GOP and GOI thinks over hard and do some thing rather productive on WAGAH that would be a Giant step towards peace!

yep indian buying fighter jets worth $10 billion....that surely sums up the leap towards peace.
 
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yep indian buying fighter jets worth $10 billion....that surely sums up the leap towards peace.

chalo let me ask you what purpose does this stupidty at wagah help acheive pakistan ? I have the same question to indian members who think this should be continued ??
 
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