Should Pakistan recognize Israel?

[barcelona]

i think pakistan should recognise the reality of israel and try to have relation with them it could very frutful relationship.... as india has just started to realise .......i kind of heard in media during mush era pakistan was maintaining some contact with israel

 

[Destructlord]

India is one of the bigger supporters of iran.

israel has good relations with india

does anyone see the contradiction?

I fail to see the definition of "supporter" in here?! None has ever supported us! And we don't expect you to do so!

Actually as one of the Pakistani brothers said: You have voted against us in IAEA several times, and that wont make you our supporter. We have modest relationship, for example we buy rice from you and you buy petrochemical material from us, I don't see any other cooperation in here.

 

[waraich66]

I fail to see the definition of "supporter" in here?! None has ever supported us! And we don't expect you to do so!

Actually as one of the Pakistani brothers said: You have voted against us in IAEA several times, and that wont make you our supporter. We have modest relationship, for example we buy rice from you and you buy petrochemical material from us, I don't see any other cooperation in here.

Iran should pull the trigger first ,attack is best defence , Iran,Syria and Iraq is a strong block , Pakistan , Russia and China will remain in silent mode in case of US/Israel and Iran war.

Iran should take risk before US and Israel totally take control of region which is their game plan in middle east and central asia.

I think Israel is pressurizing US to attack Iran with in year 2010.

Afghanistan/OBL is not real target of US .

 

[Kompromat]

Avoid being " Munafiq" Answer comes from Quran .!!( i don't know how many would agree with that )

Jews who do not even Recognize you as a True Religion of God and who do not Recognize Prophet Muhammad PBUH as a True Prophet , how can you expect them to be your friends? So my Answer is a Huge NO !!

And one reason given in Pros is extremely pathetic , i am talking about the one which suggests to have access to Israeli made weapon systems!

i thought after our F-16's being banned we might have learned some lessons but i am afraid i am wrong !! and if many of you still believe in relying on others and not doing anything yourself , i must say folks it is Idiotic!!

regards:

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Should Pakistan recognize Israel? Should Pakistan establish economic, political, and military ties with Israel?

That is the question, topic, and challenge I present today.



This is a very controversial issue for many of us, not only are political and social feelings are involved but religious. Historically there has been hidden animosity between the two ideological states, Pakistan and Israel.

In the views of many Muslims including Pakistanis, Israel is a occupier of Palestine, and many view Israel to be "an enemy of Islam" and a "conspirator against Islam". Many also see Israel's long history of oppression, brutality, and torture against the people of Gaza and many of it's Muslim neighbors. Some also painfully understand that Israel is a regional superpower that has been occupying and oppressing for 60+ years and presents a challenge to Muslim ambitions in the Middle East.

Pakistanis also note that Israel's MOSSAD has been engaging in operations, perhaps terrorism, sabotage within Pakistan and are trying to create balkanization within Pakistan, by supporting separatism. They also point out the Indo-Israeli axis that is highly Anti-Pakistani in it's underlying objectives.


In the views of many Jews including Israelis, Pakistan is a chance for them to establish better ties with Muslims. However, many Jews and Israelis view this ideological Islamic Republic Pakistan as a potential threat, not to mention Pakistan is the only Muslim Nuclear Power. The Israelis also remember that Pakistan sent it's PAF pilots during the 1967 War to support Syria and Arab fight against Israel, and resulted in the destruction of possibly 5-10 Israeli jets.


There appears to be animosity on both sides.


But is it time to establish better ties with Israel?


Here are some pros and cons I have listed.


Pros

1) Recognize Israel may lead to better access to western technology, particularly the ultra-modern and superior military technology the Israeli military possess and develops. Access to high-tech gadgets and military hardware. If we look at Turkey, Turkey's relationship with Israel has allowed Turkey to also have great access to modern military equipment and technology, which has provided Turkey a great modern edge in its military power.


2) Recognizing and establishing better ties with Israel, may realitically throw a wrench in the "Indo-Israel" axis which has underlying Anti-Pakistani objectives. If Israel sees a friendly Pakistan, Israel may not feel threaten by Pakistan and may also end any aggression against Pakistan through MOSSAD or it's Indo-Israeli axis. It would help to remove the underlying anti-Pakistani objectives of the Indo-Israeli axis.

3) Possibly better economic ties, Pakistan will most likely have access to better consumer goods, products, more trade, and possibly give Pakistan more markets to export.

4) A move such as this may give Pakistan less to worry about in regards to it's national security that Israel poses. Then again new security challenges may arise from such a move.

5) Loosen travel restrictions between Pakistan & Israel.

6) US may feel more comfortable about Pakistan and may also provide Pakistan better technology to reward Pakistan for such a move.

7) You may list other pros yourself.



Cons

1) Pakistan would be hated by many Muslim countries specifically Arab countries. Pakistan would be seen as a traitor to the Muslim World which is dedicated to liberating Islam's third Holiest site in Jerusalem The Dome of the Rock. Pakistan would also be seen as a target by Arab countries and militants who would perhaps begin a wave of attacks on Pakistan for it's "betrayal". Pakistan's name will be defamed in the Muslim world.

2) The conservatives and many Muslims in Pakistan would be stunned, and many demonstrations, many potential violent riots may break out in Pakistan. This may cause a major economic, political, social disruption.

3) This is a major risk, it may take many years or decades after recognition for Pakistan to benefit from the relationship with Israel. Unless agreements are signed, and cordial diplomatic ties are maintained.

4) Pakistani embassies in Arab countries may come under fire from outraged crowds and disenchanted youth.

5) Assassination attempts against Pakistani politicians who seek to establish better ties with Israel and recognize the Jewish state.

6) Recognition of Israel may lead to economic boycotts of Pakistani products in Middle East or other Muslim countries.

7) List other cons yourself.




I have provided fair information, now you decide.

Should Pakistan recognize Israel?

P.S I will answer this question my self later...

All the Muslim countries worship USA , and USA is biggest supporter for Israel , so I doubt anyone will notice little old Pakistan

 

[Hulk]

All the Muslim countries worship USA , and USA is biggest supporter for Israel , so I doubt anyone will notice little old Pakistan

You are on the dot, there would be hardly an issue externally, but cannot say internally. I think Pakistan has more extremist people then any other Muslim country maybe (minus Afghanistan). People need to learn to separate business and religion.

 

[pakistani_hawk]

we hate israel.we will apose any try to recognise israel

 

[Bas_tum_Pak]

Originally Posted by Patriot
Yes, we should recognize Israel.What's the point of living in ignorance?Israel will continue to exist.

yes man i agree with you 100%..we should recognize it

People like you restrict whole nation to stand on one point .
by doing this you will justify the israel occupation of 'Musjid -e -aqsa '
and you want to forget thousand of Palestinians Martyrs.

 

[XYON]

If Pakistan tolerates India despite its continuous and illegal occupation of Kashmir where it has killed thousands of innocent Kashmiri's, recognizing Israel should be a lesser evil. Sometimes even the minutest diplomatic connect can achieve greater results then a total disconnection.

 

[Kompromat]

yes man i agree with you 100%..we should recognize it

What do you mean by WE ?? dude you are not even a Pakistani

 

[Kompromat]

The poll is highly Rigged because of the sheer numbers of Indian Members " ITS NOT ACCURATE" in Pakistan's point of view !!!!!

 

[balbir pasha]

People like you restrict whole nation to stand on one point .
by doing this you will justify the israel occupation of 'Musjid -e -aqsa '
and you want to forget thousand of Palestinians Martyrs.

Pakistan had recognised brutal Taliban in afghanistan which is still killing muslims throughout paksitan. On the other hand, pakistan does not recognises Israel because it allegedly kills muslims elsewhere.

What an Irony !!!

 

[Red Dwarf]

The poll is highly Rigged because of the sheer numbers of Indian Members " ITS NOT ACCURATE" in Pakistan's point of view !!!!!

Yes the ideology of all Muslims are brothers so we should help the Palestinians and we must cry for them whenever Israel made an attack on them. We should hate Israeli people and must close our eyes when something bad happened to them because they are Jews. Muslims are human beings and Israels are aliens.

 

[Kompromat]

Recognizing Israel would be like accepting to pay "Bhatta"

Wake up folks stand on your own !!!
There is only one condition when Pakistan will recognize israel which is when " Islamic state of Palestine" will come into being !!

 

[gambit]

we hate israel.we will apose any try to recognise israel

Oppose? What are you going to do? Hold your breath? Egypt recognized Israel. Are you going to attack Egypt? How old are you? Twelve?