Should Pakistan Create Another Intelligence Agency ?

[Edevelop]

I just realized that there are many countries around the world having many types of intelligence agencies.

Here is the U.S for example:

U.S Independent agencies

Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
United States Department of Defense
Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Agency (AFISRA)
Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM)
Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)
Marine Corps Intelligence Activity (MCIA)
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA)
National Reconnaissance Office (NRO)
National Security Agency (NSA)
Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI)
United States Department of Energy
Office of Intelligence and Counterintelligence (OICI)
United States Department of Homeland Security
Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A)
Coast Guard Intelligence (CGI)
United States Department of Justice
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
Drug Enforcement Administration, Office of National Security Intelligence (DEA/ONSI)
United States Department of State
Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR)
United States Department of the Treasury
Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence (TFI)

In Pakistan, is ISI the only one ??? If so, it is not good. The ISI's job and objective should be to win interests geopolitically. Its just bad when they are involved in domestic politics also. ^^ The above is a great setup and it should help solve our problems easily. Do you guys agree ?

 

[somebozo]

Pakistan needs a strong internal security agency to keep a check on jehadis, wahabis, salafis, tableeghis, jamatis, LeJ etc!

 

[Edevelop]

U.K:

MI6 Secret Intelligence Service (SIS)
Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ)
MI5 Security Service
National Criminal Intelligence Service (NCIS)
Metropolitan Police [Scotland Yard]

 

[Pakistanisage]

Actually Pakistan already has a number of Intelligence agencies in existence. Because of its international fame ISI is the most well known but there others that perform Intelligence activities around the country. So here is a more inclusive list:

1. Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI)

2. Military Intelligence (MI)

3. Intelligence Bureau (IB)

4. Federal Investigation Agency (FIA)


Military Intelligence is a composite Intelligence agency comprising of Naval Intelligence (NI), Army Intelligence and Air Intelligence. Musharraf depended more on this arm of Pakistani Intelligence than ISI because ISI has become somewhat Politicised.

Another Intelligence under the auspices of Head of the State (PM) is the intelligence Bureau (IB).

Federal Investigation Agency comes under the auspices of Interior Ministry.

 

[Edevelop]

Actually Pakistan already has a number of Intelligence agencies in existence. Because of its international fame ISI is the most well known but there others that perform Intelligence activities around the country. So here is a more inclusive list:

1. Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI)

2. Military Intelligence (MI)

3. Intelligence Bureau (IB)

4. Federal Investigation Agency (FIA)

But you know ISI sometimes gets involved in domestic politics. IB and FIA should best deal with internal crisis. Another problem here is our government. They would never empower them as they would fear for themselves first. i.e. they would never accomplish their interests such as corruption.

 

[Sugarcane]

I just realized that there are many countries around the world having many types of intelligence agencies.

Here is the U.S for example:



In Pakistan, is ISI the only one ??? If so, it is not good. The ISI's job and objective should be to win interests geopolitically. Its just bad when they are involved in domestic politics also. ^^ The above is a great setup and it should help solve our problems easily. Do you guys agree ?

ISI's main responsibility is to safeguard Pakistan's interest overseas, IB & FIA are for internal intelligence role.

 

[Edevelop]

ISI's main responsibility is to safeguard Pakistan's interest overseas, IB & FIA are for internal intelligence role.

The govt won't let IB and FIA do their job. Upon empowering them means holding their interests also at risk.

 

[Sugarcane]

But you know ISI sometimes gets involved in domestic politics. IB and FIA should best deal with internal crisis. Another problem here is our government. They would never empower them as they would fear for themselves first. i.e. they would never accomplish their interests such as corruption.

That's political wing of ISI not all ISI - However this political wing should be abandoned. Spare ISI for external threat and push IB & FIA to do what they are supposed to do, if they are not capable than sack them and create new agencies with capable people.

 

[Yaduveer]

ISI is a wild horse , to tame it bring it under civil authority i.e Your PM who is accountable to whole nation.

 

[Edevelop]

FIA mainly deals with following functions:-

Immigration Control, Smuggling of migrants and trafficking
in persons (Emigration Ordinance, P & CHTO)

Identity Fraud (Passport Act, NADRA Ordinance)

National Security (Official Secret Act, Anti National Activity Act,Anti
Terrorism Act, Arms Ordinance, Explosive Substance Act)

Fiscal and Business related Offences (Foreign Exchange Regulation
Act, Import & Export (Control) Act)

Forgery and Fraud (Criminal breach of trust, misappropriation,
cheating, currency counterfeiting etc. under PPC)

Spurious Drug (Drugs Act)

Banking crime

Corporate crime

State Bank related crime

IPR (Violations of Copy Right Ordinance)
Cyber Crime ( Prevention of Electronic Crime Ordinance,&
Electronic Transaction Ordinance)
Money Laundering fit Terrorist Financing (ATA)

 

[JonAsad]

Pakistan needs a strong internal security agency to keep a check on jehadis, wahabis, salafis, tableeghis, jamatis, LeJ etc!

Spare the tableeghis- you dont hv to put all up in one post to make your point-

 

[BATMAN]

We have many anti terror cells, in addition to CID, IB, FIA, Police etc.

All above institutions are headed by one, Rehman Malik, he was also responsible for the private security of Baynazir.

Rehman Malik, is right hand man of Asif Ali Zardar.

ISI is a wild horse , to tame it bring it under civil authority i.e Your PM who is accountable to whole nation.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

I just realized that there are many countries around the world having many types of intelligence agencies.

Here is the U.S for example:



In Pakistan, is ISI the only one ??? If so, it is not good. The ISI's job and objective should be to win interests geopolitically. Its just bad when they are involved in domestic politics also. ^^ The above is a great setup and it should help solve our problems easily. Do you guys agree ?

we already have Army Intelligence, Naval/Air Force intelligence; the Dept of Defence is not an intel agency; it's their Ministry of Defence. Their national geo-spatial intelligence is just a intel mapping organization that works directly with US intel (they dont have all their buildings in one place). The Dept of Energy is not an intelligence agency. Nor is Homeland Security (they deal with immigration, domestic security along borders and in cities, etc.).


FBI, Dept of State are not intel agencies either

 

[Edevelop]

we already have Army Intelligence, Naval/Air Force intelligence; the Dept of Defence is not an intel agency; it's their Ministry of Defence. Their national geo-spatial intelligence is just a intel mapping organization that works directly with US intel (they dont have all their buildings in one place). The Dept of Energy is not an intelligence agency. Nor is Homeland Security (they deal with immigration, domestic security along borders and in cities, etc.).

FBI, Dept of State are not intel agencies either

Yup we saw what happened in Masroor and Kamra bases. Someone from inside was messing up.

 

[Sugarcane]

ISI is a wild horse , to tame it bring it under civil authority i.e Your PM who is accountable to whole nation.

LOL!!! DG ISI already reports to PM - go and troll somewhere else