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Sharia lessons for pupils aged six: BBC uncovers 'weekend schools' that teach pupils how to hack off thieves' hands

Sharia lessons for pupils aged six: BBC uncovers 'weekend schools' | Mail Online

Pupils asked to list the 'reprehensible' qualities of Jews
Around 5,000 children attend a network of 40 schools
Diagrams show children how to hack off hands and feet


Children in Britain are being taught brutal Sharia law punishments, including how to hack off a criminal’s hand or foot.

So-called ‘weekend schools’ for Muslim pupils as young as six also teach that the penalty for gay sex is execution and that ‘Zionists’ are plotting to take over the world for the Jews.

One set textbook challenges youngsters to list the ‘reprehensible’ qualities of Jews.

Another for six-year-olds asks them to answer what happens to someone who dies who is not a believer in Islam. The answer being looked for is ‘hellfire’.

A BBC Panorama investigation, to be screened tonight, identified a network of more than 40 weekend schools teaching around 5,000 children, from age six to 18.

The schools – which offer the hardline Saudi National Curriculum – are run under the umbrella of ‘Saudi Students Clubs and Schools in the UK and Ireland’.

They are not state-funded, and do not use Government buildings. They are able to exploit a loophole which means weekend schools are not inspected by Ofsted.

Last night, experts at the Policy Exchange think-tank warned that similar extremists could seek to exploit the Government’s policy of giving greater freedoms from state control to free schools and academies.

They call for the establishment of a due diligence unit to check whether those applying to open the schools have an extremist background.

Current checks are largely limited to fraud, criminal convictions and funding.

Education Secretary Michael Gove, who is believed to be supportive of the idea, said he would not tolerate anti-Semitism and homophobia in English schools.

The Panorama investigation identified a book for 15-year-olds being used in the classes which teaches about Sharia law and its punishments.

It says: ‘For thieves their hands will be cut off for a first offence, and their foot for a subsequent offence.’

There are diagrams showing children where cuts must be made. One passage says: ‘The specified punishment of the thief is cutting off his right hand at the wrist. Then it is cauterised to prevent him from bleeding to death.’

For acts of ‘sodomy’, children are told that the penalty is death and it states a difference of opinion whether this should be done by stoning, or burning with fire, or throwing over a cliff.

Panorama alleges that a building used for one of the schools, in Ealing, West London, is owned by the Saudi government .

Mr Gove told the programme: ‘I have no desire or wish to intervene in the decisions that the Saudi government makes in its own education system.

‘But I’m clear that we cannot have anti-Semitic material of any kind being used in English schools. Ofsted are doing some work in this area.

‘They’ll be reporting to me shortly about how we can ensure that part-time provision is better registered and better inspected in the future.’

The text books for 15-year-olds revive the so-called ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion’, which teach that Zionists want to establish world domination for Jews.

The Saudi text books instruct pupils: ‘The Jews have tried to deny them (the Protocols) but there are many proofs of their veracity and their origin among the elders of Zion.’

The text books say the ‘main goal’ of the ‘Zionist movement’ is ‘for the Jews to have control over the world and its resources’ which, the book allege, Zionists seek to achieve partly by ‘inciting rancour and rivalry among the great powers so that they fight one another.’

Mr Gove said anyone who cites the Protocols of Zion is ‘indulging in one of the oldest and foulest anti Semitic smears that, that we know of’.

In a written response to the findings, the Saudi ambassador said the schools had nothing to do with the Saudi embassy.

It stated: ‘Any tutoring activities that may have taken place among any other group of Muslims in the United Kingdom are absolutely individual to that group and not affiliated to or endorsed by the Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia.’

Referring to the lesson that tasks children to list the ‘reprehensible qualities of the Jews’, in a letter to the BBC, the Saudi ambassador said it was ‘dangerously deceptive and misleading to address such texts and discuss them out of their overall historical, cultural and linguistic contexts’.

Panorama separately claimed some Muslim private schools have expressed extreme sentiments on their school websites.

These include: ‘We need to defend our children from the forces of evil’, and ‘our children are exposed to a culture that is in opposition to almost everything Islam stands for’.

Policy Exchange says Britain’s faith and other schools are increasingly vulnerable to extremist influences.

It claims in a report that the Department for Education, Ofsted, education authorities and schools are ‘not equipped’ to meet such challenges.

Current checks for extremism are described as ‘piecemeal’.

The report adds: ‘The Government’s policy of opening up the education system to new academies and free schools programmes could be exploited unless urgent measures are taken to counter extremist influence.’


No wonder Islamophobia is on the rise across Europe if this is the sort of thing Muslim youth are being taught in their schools..It also explains to a certain extent the inexplicable and pervasive racially charged hatred displayed against Hindus on this forum and by Pakistanis in general, if the heavily criticized state curriculum in that country is anything similar (the Jews are replaced by 'Hindus' but the 'essential attributes' of the hated 'other', such as being stupid, devious, racially inferior etc etc, remain the same)

Those in the UK can catch the investigation on Panorama on BBC 1 at 8:30 pm tonight. For those outside the UK, I`ll post the video once its uploaded on Youtube
 
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lol... Lets all bash the Muslims.. hey it's easy... The boogie man is out of the closet.

What are your thoughts on the article and whether such 'schools' are compatible with the western value set?
 
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lol... Lets all bash the Muslims.. hey it's easy... The boogie man is out of the closet.

How is this bashing the muslims????Do you have any reason to doubt the veracity of the report? Do you not find it appalling that 5000 children, as young as 6, in this country are being coached in conspiracy theories and taught how to maim people?

What I am trying to do is generate debate on why this is happening and what YOU as a mainstream muslim can do to prevent it? By going into denial and characterizing it as 'muslim bashing', you are only making the job of the Wahabbis easier...

5000 is not a small number and is likely to include children from a number of muslim families who would consider themselves to be peaceful and moderate.There should be closer scrutiny of such schools not just in Europe but also in Pakistan as they are likely to act as future breeding grounds for violent extremism.As you know indoctrinating the youth has always been a time tested favourite of fascist movements (Hitler Jungen anyone)
 
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How is this bashing the muslims????Do you have any reason to doubt the veracity of the report? Do you not find it appalling that 5000 children, as young as 6, in this country are being coached in conspiracy theories and taught how to maim people?

What I am trying to do is generate debate on why this is happening and what YOU as a mainstream muslim can do to prevent it? By going into denial and characterizing it as 'muslim bashing', you are only making the job of the Wahabbis easier...

5000 is not a small number and is likely to include children from a number of muslim families who would consider themselves to be peaceful and moderate.There should be closer scrutiny of such schools not just in Europe but also in Pakistan as they are likely to act as future breeding grounds for violent extremism.As you know indoctrinating the youth has always been a time tested favourite of fascist movements (Hitler Jungen anyone)

Oh but that's the classic knee jerk response around here. Anything and everything of such nature is shrugged off as an 'isolated incident' and subsequent attempts to discuss and understand such issues are vehemently derailed by the likes of Paladin who yell Islamophobic at the top their lungs.

There isn't a single genuine attempt to address the growing rift between Islam and the West either because the two are wholly incompatible or people just find it easier to skirt the issue and point fingers. There was in fact a thread the other day about torture devices used in MEDIEVAL Europe (we're talking 14th-15th century) that further 'highlighted' the West's 'hypocritical' and 'Islamophobic' stance, never mind how such schools can operate in a nation with impunity by exploiting their rights/freedoms.
 
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Sharia lessons for pupils aged six: BBC uncovers 'weekend schools' that teach pupils how to hack off thieves' hands

Sharia lessons for pupils aged six: BBC uncovers 'weekend schools' | Mail Online

Pupils asked to list the 'reprehensible' qualities of Jews
Around 5,000 children attend a network of 40 schools
Diagrams show children how to hack off hands and feet



In a written response to the findings, the Saudi ambassador said the schools had nothing to do with the Saudi embassy.

It stated: ‘Any tutoring activities that may have taken place among any other group of Muslims in the United Kingdom are absolutely individual to that group and not affiliated to or endorsed by the Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia.’
So the Saudis provide funds to such organizations without checking their credentials or curriculum? That is plain BS.

Referring to the lesson that tasks children to list the ‘reprehensible qualities of the Jews’, in a letter to the BBC, the Saudi ambassador said it was ‘dangerously deceptive and misleading to address such texts and discuss them out of their overall historical, cultural and linguistic contexts’.

Panorama separately claimed some Muslim private schools have expressed extreme sentiments on their school websites.
As reprehensible as it is, can anyone actually point out how "in overall historical, cultural and linguistic contexts is "reprehensible qualities of Jews" in anyway acceptable?

Again, why does UK tolerate such religious BS? WTF is wrong with UK? Why are radical religious figures given such freedom in UK to spread their BS religious hatred?

No wonder Islamophobia is on the rise across Europe if this is the sort of thing Muslim youth are being taught in their schools..It also explains to a certain extent the inexplicable and pervasive racially charged hatred displayed against Hindus on this forum and by Pakistanis in general, if the heavily criticized state curriculum in that country is anything similar (the Jews are replaced by 'Hindus' but the 'essential attributes' of the hated 'other', such as being stupid, devious, racially inferior etc etc, remain the same)

Instead of condemning such issues, people (Like Paladin here) assume that this is an overall attack on their faith. Doesnt matter that a few perverted public figures and institutions impose their skewed version on the people.

Dont tell us that the parents didnt know about their kids curriculum in such "weekend schools". Either they are not fit to be parents or they are equally complicit in this entire affair of radicalizing the kids.

And yet people complain about the rise of Islamophobia.

Where are the majority "moderate" voices when you need them the most? To prevent such issues in the first place!!!
 
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So, the story is out, evidence is there with the news agency.

Where is the govt action ?? Why hasn't the govt done anything in this regard ?? Why no arrests are being made ?? Why the ones who are teaching such things not being arrested ?? Why no video news items coming on BBC, CNN & most importantly Fox news or even Sky News. Where is MI5 or Scotland Yard doing investigations ??

Where is the civilized world to take care of stopping such hate speech being spread ??

Or should I say, may be the story is cooked up, as reason is obvious.
 
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So, the story is out, evidence is there with the news agency.

Where is the govt action ?? Why hasn't the govt done anything in this regard ?? Why no arrests are being made ?? Why the ones who are teaching such things not being arrested ?? Why no video news items coming on BBC, CNN & most importantly Fox news or even Sky News. Where is MI5 or Scotland Yard doing investigations ??

Where is the civilized world to take care of stopping such hate speech being spread ??

Or should I say, may be the story is cooked up, as reason is obvious.

Christ, yet another conspiracy theory?

"They are not state-funded, and do not use Government buildings. They are able to exploit a loophole which means weekend schools are not inspected by Ofsted.Last night, experts at the Policy Exchange think-tank warned that similar extremists could seek to exploit the Government’s policy of giving greater freedoms from state control to free schools and academies. They call for the establishment of a due diligence unit to check whether those applying to open the schools have an extremist background. Current checks are largely limited to fraud, criminal convictions and funding. Education Secretary Michael Gove, who is believed to be supportive of the idea, said he would not tolerate anti-Semitism and homophobia in English schools."


It's really hard to comprehend this 'instant shell' mentality. Why don't you enlighten us as to why someone would come up with such a story? Sorry if the reasons aren't as obvious to me.
 
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What are your thoughts on the article and whether such 'schools' are compatible with the western value set?

Having been brought up in a convent my opinion is mixed. Religious schooling is not a bad thing, i am a product of Christian schooling, but religio-political indoctrination is most definitely a bad thing.

Do you have any reason to doubt the veracity of the report?
Frankly no, my main concern is what of the rest of the 1.6million muslims living in the UK? How will they be judged? As we know the British public lacks the mental throughput to think for themselves "this present" election is one such prime example.

What I am trying to do is generate debate on why this is happening and what YOU as a mainstream muslim can do to prevent it?

Why is this happening?
Why ask in PDF, why not Ask the British Muslim forum or the BMC or the Sufi Council of Great Britain?

what YOU as a mainstream muslim can do to prevent it?

Please don't preach to me... I am too busy helping my country to care about 5000 nut jobs... 5000 out of 1.6 million.. OMG that is just so scary we have to create a hullabaloo.

5000 is not a small number and is likely to include children from a number of muslim families who would consider themselves to be peaceful and moderate.

Out of 1.6 Million?

who would consider themselves to be peaceful and moderate.
How can you say that with such conviction.

Pakistan as they are likely to act as future breeding grounds for violent extremism.

Why only Pakistan? How about India, How about Bangladesh ?

http://zaheratrust.co.cc/ is one such example

As you know indoctrinating the youth has always been a time tested favourite of fascist movements (Hitler Jungen anyone)

And as you know scaremongering has always worked to rally the angry masses against a united bogey man. Times are hard in Europe with austerity measures and that, we all need something to distract the public's attention from the issues of REAL importance.

Lets slam some Muslims.
 
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How is this bashing the muslims????Do you have any reason to doubt the veracity of the report? Do you not find it appalling that 5000 children, as young as 6, in this country are being coached in conspiracy theories and taught how to maim people?

What I am trying to do is generate debate on why this is happening and what YOU as a mainstream muslim can do to prevent it? By going into denial and characterizing it as 'muslim bashing', you are only making the job of the Wahabbis easier...

5000 is not a small number and is likely to include children from a number of muslim families who would consider themselves to be peaceful and moderate.There should be closer scrutiny of such schools not just in Europe but also in Pakistan as they are likely to act as future breeding grounds for violent extremism.As you know indoctrinating the youth has always been a time tested favourite of fascist movements (Hitler Jungen anyone)

5000 is the number of pupils attending Islamic weekend schools. I couldnt find any facts on how many were taught to "chop off hands" (which I suspect was more of history lesson). Daily mail is a known scaremonger and you should know that since you live in Britain. I havent seen the BBC documentary yet but I would advise you to draw conclusions from that rather than anything the daily mail "reports".

The article makes clear this might be a rare occurrence in a Saudi funded weekend school so dont try and accuse Muslims or justify the mindless Islamophobia portrayed in the comments section by daily mail readers. Most of them are straight up bigots.
 
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I don't required to read the story as soon as I read the title.Boy oh Boy If this is really they are thinking then the Islam is really spreading fast and they are scared of it.This is the clear indication how fast Islam is spreading in the west
 
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