Shenzhen: China's start-up HEAVEN

[Itachi]

No, it won't get you and those protesters anywhere, wanna bet?

I don't bet, like any Muslim doesn't. Let's see what the future holds for HK and China.

 

[beijingwalker]

I don't bet, like any Muslim doesn't. Let's see what the future holds for HK and China.

We'll see, you won't wait for long.

 

[Tauren Paladin]

What does the Hong Kong issue have to do with the thread title? The mods should ban Itachi for derailing the thread.

 

[beijingwalker]

What does the Hong Kong issue have to do with the thread title? The mods should ban Itachi for derailing the thread.

He is just a China hater likes to jump in whatever China related threads to slander China, let him be, haters gonna hate.

 

[waz]

If Kashmiris can use Pakistani flags then you should have no problem with HK'ers using UK flags.

So you just linked, made a comparison to Kashmir, how dare you.
So according to you well off youngsters, who have never known much in the way of a hard life are to be seen in the same light as the brutally oppressed Kashmiris??

Let's leave perceptions aside, how is Hong Kong an internationally recognised dispute between two countries? The UK left the region 20 years ago and have never looked back. Discounting my opinion go ask British nationalists on their thoughts on Hong Kong and you'll get a barrage of swear words and indifference. No one cares about Hong kong here, bar a few silly statements made by politicians.
How also is the population of Hong Kong ethnically, religiously and culturally different from the mainland Chinese, like the Kashmiris clearly are?
Where's the PLA? Are they kicking the living daylights out of women, children openly on the streets of Hong kong like the Indian forces are in Kashmir?
How about rape of women? The PLA doing that as well?

Your're banned from this thread, consider yourself lucky that it wasn't the site.
@Dubious
@Irfan Baloch
@The Eagle
@WAJsal
@Arsalan

Having an opinion is one thing, but undermining a genuine struggle upon which Pakistan's interests lie is something that can never be tolerated here. Many people have asked me to watch such posters, now it's clearly evident.

P.S

I decided to ban you instead, what you did was beyond disgraceful.

 

[The Eagle]

Having an opinion is one thing, but undermining a genuine struggle upon which Pakistan's interests lie is something that can never be tolerated here. Many people have asked me to watch such posters, now it's clearly evident.

Hong Kong has nothing to do with Kashmir struggle and comparison is foolish as well as cheap stunt to provoke. Had it been the case of Palestine & Kashmir, I will say otherwise. Action is appreciated & as I said, regardless of any flag or nationality, violations shouldn't be tolerated.

Regards,

 

[waz]

Hong Kong has nothing to do with Kashmir struggle and comparison is foolish as well as cheap stunt to provoke. Had it been the case of Palestine & Kashmir, I will say otherwise. Action is appreciated & as I said, regardless of any flag or nationality, violations shouldn't be tolerated.

Regards,

Spot on bro. I just can't believe what I just read from him, using the struggle to further his own narrative on here.

 

[Dubious]

So you just linked, made a comparison to Kashmir, how dare you.
So according to you well off youngsters, who have never known much in the way of a hard life are to be seen in the same light as the brutally oppressed Kashmiris??

Let's leave perceptions aside, how is Hong Kong an internationally recognised dispute between two countries? The UK left the region 20 years ago and have never looked back. Discounting my opinion go ask British nationalists on their thoughts on Hong Kong and you'll get a barrage of swear words and indifference. No one cares about Hong kong here, bar a few silly statements made by politicians.
How also is the population of Hong Kong ethnically, religiously and culturally different from the mainland Chinese, like the Kashmiris clearly are?
Where's the PLA? Are they kicking the living daylights out of women, children openly on the streets of Hong kong like the Indian forces are in Kashmir?
How about rape of women? The PLA doing that as well?

Your're banned from this thread, consider yourself lucky that it wasn't the site.
@Dubious
@Irfan Baloch
@The Eagle
@WAJsal
@Arsalan

Having an opinion is one thing, but undermining a genuine struggle upon which Pakistan's interests lie is something that can never be tolerated here. Many people have asked me to watch such posters, now it's clearly evident.

Too many idiots on the loose

 

[waz]

Too many idiots on the loose

He's going to be banned now.
Looking back at what he's done he knew far better.

 

[oproh]

Shenzhen is going to be the new global financial center of the world soon thanks so the support of the Chinese government and the fall of new york and destruction of hongkong.

 

[letsrock]

I have my reservation against communism and by no stretch of imagination is a communist. And i really dont know what "communism with chinese characteristics" mean. but one thing I fully admire about china is now meticulously it respects agreements. Just compare it with rogue country India which has been a plague on south asian people. India unilaterally went back on every agreement it signed with either hindu states or muslim state of kashmir. It acutally sent its army to occupy goa. One third of India's territory was added post 1947 fraudently. The world barely cared which is another lucky thing for India.

Now china which even held us to a draw in korean war wayback in 1950 could have occupied hongkong if it wanted. Instead it made an agreement with Uk till 1998 or something. And when Uk left it made another agreement for 50years two systems one country. which china still meticulously honors. HK law allows free demonstrations and china respects that - no cuts to internet, no cuts to telephone or mobile like dracoanian india. Now UK could have easily offered hongkongese UK citizenship when it left but notice that it did not.

And china actually benefited from it. It has peace on every land border except the rogue India. When HK was added to china it added 20-40% of its economy. But now goa is just another third world $hit hole though still quiet better than rest of india due its christian heritage.

 

[lcloo]

Hong Kong and Shenzhen are practically a metro separated by one country two system with border control. I used to work on both sides of the border, one week in Shenzhen factory, next week in TST East office, Hong Kong. My passports were used up so quick that I have to change them once in less than 2 years.

Those years (2001-2009) in Hong Kong impressed upon me that it is very progressive, peaceful and the people were very nice, although everyone was on quicken mode (walk fast, talk fast, work fast), even the subway, elevators and public bus turn-around was fast.

A decade later Hong Kong change, and guess what, it seen to change to be worst than before in line with China-US relationship, so was it a coincident?

As for Shenzhen, it was a city still in developmental stage, many buildings were still under construction, its streets were full of immigrant workers... actually 99.99% of the city's residents were immigrant workers and businessmen from other provinces as well as people from Hong Kong, Taiwan and foreign countries. that was in year 2001.

Fast forward, today, it is a changed city, modern progressive and has a higher GDP than Hong Kong. So what makes Shenzhen a success while Hong Kong rots? Is it education and citizen awareness? or is it satisfaction and feeling of well being by its residents? And why are the Shenzhen residents feel secure while the Hong Kong residents fear the laws in China?

(personally, as a foreigner in China, I never had any fear on Chinese laws)