Sharjeel Usmani Speaks after Release on Bail

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Tell me, in Hindu scripture there is the phrase "Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam" whose meaning I quote from Google :

So why should you have objections to another pan-humanity-embracing ideology like Islam or for that matter a modern ideology like Communism ?

Vasudha means earth. All living beings on earth (may be even the non-living) is one family.

You need a special intelligence to confuse it with "brothers sans borders" ideology which pits one category against all other categories (one religion above country, state, language, family and of course other religions)

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

those who went to pakistan want to return , ask muhajir leader altaf hussain and other muhajir leaders .
nothing to talk about bangalis who finally got rid of tired of persecution by you people. now they are in better condition than you .

Altaf Hussain appears a retard to me. Please refrain quoting or referencing him if you want to make some statement with substance.

 

[hussain0216]

indian muslims have equal right as every indian citizen have . their condition is far far far better than hindus, sikhs, christians of pakistan who do not have equal rights as muslim of pakistan have .no indian muslim even thinks about pakistan after seeing condition of muhajirs and their leader altaf hussain ,who was forced to take asylum in england to save his life .
whole world knows about how bangalis were treated in pakistan .

No Indian is welcome here, this is a Islamic Republic

We don't have riots
We don't have lynchings
Our capital city dosent burn in communal hatred


Indian Muslims are subjected to the treatment Jinnah always warned about

He understood this decades ago

Indian Muslims and even other minorities cannot exist in a Hindutva extremist communal state

It's not possible

Partition of India is desperately needed

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Looks like someone has been drinking too much cowpiss these days to think straight.

Wo sab chod. Doosra sanpola andar hai ki bahar? Search kar news aur post kar. Ek snake dusre snake to track to kar hi raha hoga.

 

[Protest_again]

Tell me, in Hindu scripture there is the phrase "Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam" whose meaning I quote from Google :

So why should you have objections to another pan-humanity-embracing ideology like Islam or for that matter a modern ideology like Communism ?

Given Islamic nations and communist nations around the world are not following what you are preaching. Particularly Islamic nations who treat other nationalities as second class people with no rights...

You show this utopia in islamic nations before expect it in India. Thank you.

 

[hussain0216]

those who went to pakistan want to return , ask muhajir leader altaf hussain and other muhajir leaders .
nothing to talk about bangalis who finally got tired of persecution by you people. now they are in better condition than you .

Bangladesh is a Muslim state as per partition

Free of hindutva India

Altaf is a drunkard and retard, even the blind and senile have understood what a disaster India has become

Whilst social media can be untruthful it's a window into a country and in Indian case it's full of poison and hatred for other Indians

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Altaf Hussain appears a retard to me. Please refrain quoting or referencing him if you want to make some statement with substance.

Bangladesh is a Muslim state as per partition

Free of hindutva India

Altaf is a drunkard and retard, even the blind and senile have understood what a disaster India has become

Whilst social media can be untruthful it's a window into a country and in Indian case it's full of poison and hatred for other Indians

We do agree on something!!

 

[hussain0216]

don't know why, man..

but got a feeling that I have a way better grasp on what is happening in India as opposed to you, a blinded by hate foreigner provocateur troll lol.

dafuq you doing over in the UK anyway ? hightailed it the hell out of your beloved Pakistan in search of a better life lawl, you little little man.

I was born here you Muppet

But I spend up to 6 months a year in Pakistan, or have done so in last few years upto covid period


You are blinded by your nationalism




Indians hate each other

Your state is biased

The poison flowing in India is incredibly toxic


All south Asia has animosity towards you one way or the other

India is not feasible, you can't trap 1.4 billion people in such a communal country

 

[Iltutmish]

Hindutva is cultural nationalism. All other religions except Abrahamic religions are native to this land and are not anaemic to Hindutva, primacy of Indian culture.

What was before Hinduism? Indian culture was shaped by Muslims for over a millennia and now a random butthurt Hindu is coming out and tells us what Indian culture is and what not. Get over it, Islam is here to stay not only in India but all over the world!

Only Abrahamic religions particularly Islam has the tendency to be partial to other outside countries and people. That is contrarian to nationalism, hence the problem.

Abrahamic religions have rules and stuff, shocking turn of events! Every human society has a sense for „membership“ this is in our DNA, not a special Muslim thing.

As soon as muslims accept the fact that they are native to this land and their ancestors are part of a continuing culture that has been in existence for past few millennia, they'll not have a problem. Poor muslims are more aligned with that reality.

In your First paragraph you state that Abrahmic religions are not native to India and now they should accept their nativeness? Muslims don’t tend to assimilate into Hindu culture, because your concepts are alien to us and in some cases the mere antithesis to our religion and culture. No way to forcefully align this things.

Only these islamists in the garb of leftism are championing islam over nation. And in the process further dividing the country.

Leftism and Islam are like Hinduism and Islam, no sane, self respecting Muslim is a lefty. Even though a communist mullah here in this forum will disagree.

Nationalism is the flavor of the world these days. It will be so for few decades. Look at Arabs they are starting to embrace nationalism themselves and are cozying up with Israel. Only Pakistan, Turkey at present are championing Islam over boundaries. As such are being alienated even among muslim countries. Even China is heavily into nationalism.

Nationalism is not an Islamic concept and it brought many bad things especially in the last 100 years. You want Muslims to become Hindus in order to have an Indian nation. How to tell you that this will never happen? You know that, I know that, the whole world knows that. Pissing of Muslims will beget more violence and more unrest. A price Hindu nationalist are ready to pay in order to get some votes. Pathetic!

As for lynching, most states have anti cow slaughter laws. It is said in our constitution, cow slaughter will not be allowed in this land. It is not something BJP came up with. As such muslims should know the risks and should educate their peers too so they don't get caught unknowingly.
I am not condoning lynching but muslims just have to give up beef.

How about you Hindus eat what you want and don’t bother other religions with your dietary rules? And Muslim eat what they want? Or is drinking cow urine and dung part of Hindu nation building?

Other than that, none of the welfare programs have discriminated against muslims. Development may be lacking in Modi govt so far but administration is far improved. And he will keep winning because of that. Poor are quite satisfied that their welfare is being delivered directly into his account without any corruption.

Buy one half of the poor to kill the other half. Great!

 

[jamahir]

You need a special intelligence to confuse it with "brothers sans borders" ideology which pits one category against all other categories (one religion above country, state, language, family and of course other religions)

I am all for making one's birth religion private.

And what is wrong with "brothers sans borders" ? Please read my signature.

Given Islamic nations and communist nations around the world are not following what you are preaching. Particularly Islamic nations who treat other nationalities as second class people with no rights, pardon me if I don't take Islam at face value.

Pre-2003 Iraq and pre-war Syria were Muslim-majority countries yet the system allowed for citizens of other religions to achieve high positions in society.

You show this utopia before expect it in India. Thank you.

Every socialist / communist country is an experiment. An experiment towards a better way of life. India needs this experiment urgently given the various problems we have.

 

[GHALIB]

No Indian is welcome here, this is a Islamic Republic

We don't have riots
We don't have lynchings
Our capital city dosent burn in communal hatred


Indian Muslims are subjected to the treatment Jinnah always warned about

He understood this decades ago

Indian Muslims and even other minorities cannot exist in a Hindutva extremist communal state

It's not possible

Partition of India is desperately neededView attachment 671398

1 .you don't have riots you have war ( example war between muhajirs and pashtuns in karachi , shia sunni riots during ashura , latest was in karachi where anti shias slogans were shouted by sunnis )

2. you lynch and burn and kill christians and muslims and hindus for blasphemy ( example mashal khan, and christian couple burnt alive for blasphemy )
3. you blast churches , mandirs , kill hazaras for being shias

if you want i can give you more examples of killing by lashkar e jhangawi and ahle sunnat wali jamat .

so better read your history and news papers thoroughly .

and never forget genocide of bangalis .

 

[Iltutmish]

Both Islam and communism has a component of enforcement.

Communism and Islam are like sadhus and clean water. The complete opposite of each other. Islam and the practice of Islam rely heavily on self policing and not on force. Actions committed under force are null and void, so people need to understand that first. But this is a story for another thread.

 

[hussain0216]

1 .you don't have riots you have war ( example war between muhajirs and pashtuns in karachi )

2. you lynch and burn and kill christians and muslims and hindus for blasphemy ( example mashal khan, and christian couple burnt alive for blasphemy )
3. you blast churches , mandirs , kill hazaras for being shias

if you want i can give you more examples of killing by lashkar e jhangawi and ahle sunnat wali jamat .

so better read your history and news papers thoroughly .

and never forget genocide of bangalis .

Yaar we are not Switzerland, yes you have issues

But our cities don't burn in communal hatred or riots

The state, social media, general population, law enforcement is all united against any brutality towards minorities

I personally hate Hindus, but would never accept a jungle Raj where the police help mobs lynch people





This is happening in India
Your police are joining Hindutva mobs

Your politicians justify criminality and brutality


Your social media is full of toxicity and poison for other Indians


You can have a state such as this it's poison for all South Asia

 

[Protest_again]

Hindutva is cultural nationalism for Hindus


It was what Jinnah was predicting

It why PAKISTAN happened in the first place and why the two nation theory was correct



When Partition happened Jinnah was adamant this would be the fate of India and the fate of Indian Muslims who refused to understand and fight for separate territories



The lie sold to Indian Muslims at the time was that India was for everyone and nothing would change

That as loyal Indians they could express their faith and culture and the state would be equal to all



As Jinnah is being proven right your cultural nationalism is emerging as the threat he always said it would be and Indian Muslims are now in a situation that they are under attack and now need to unite and respond for lack of any other options

First of all, India was not made for Indian muslims. Nobody sold them anything. We majority choose to be secular and present Indian muslims choose to be with us. We didn't choose secularism to accommodate muslims. It is just the nature of Hinduism. And now it is the same people who is choosing nation over religion. If that is problem to someone they should emigrate.

As for Indian constitution, its definition of secularism is mooted from Hinduism. There is no strict separation of state and religion. Infact it allows for state to indulge in religion and even reform it where needed. It is the constitution Indian muslims chose to believe in then, as such they should make their bed and sleep in it. They can't cry hoarse now. Majority muslims don't, they go out make their living, go back to their homes safe and sound. It's only islamists who are politically motivated that is having a problem, and are viciating the peaceful country.

 

[Iltutmish]

1 .you don't have riots you have war ( example war between muhajirs and pashtuns in karachi , shia sunni riots during ashura , latest was in karachi where anti shias slogans were shouted by sunnis )

You as Shiite should abstain from takin a side in this discussion. You should stop insulting the Sahaba if you want to live in a majority Sunni country. Or is insulting a integral part of your religion?

2. you lynch and burn and kill christians and muslims and hindus for blasphemy ( example mashal khan, and christian couple burnt alive for blasphemy )
3. you blast churches , mandirs , kill hazaras for being shias

Don’t derail the thread.