Sharjeel Usmani Speaks after Release on Bail

[IsThisNameAvailable]

They can keep dreaming.

The fact is that the AIMPLB is soon going to be rendered null, void and gutted. They're just going to have to live like the rest of us.

islamic laws in India ? gtfo

Organizations lime AIMPLB should not have been allowed to exist in the first place. It is only tip of the iceberg. India has allowed too many snaked to grow & prosper. Too many to handle. If they are not tackled now, India as we know would fall like a pack of cards. India has been made hollow from inside slowly & steadily by the poison called "secularism". The snakes have grown big & strong with this poison.

 

[Iltutmish]

The fact is that the AIMPLB is soon going to be rendered null, void and gutted. They're just going to have to live like the rest of us.

This will guarantee peace in your Country Right? Democracy for third world apes = suppressing the minority by all means

islamic laws in India ? gtfo

Forcing Muslims to become Bobs n Vagene pagans? GTFO!

 

[-=virus=-]

Organizations lime AIMPLB should not have been allowed to exist in the first place. It is only tip of the iceberg. India has allowed too many snaked to grow & prosper. Too many to handle. If they are not tackled now, India as we know would fall like a pack of cards. India has been made hollow from inside slowly & steadily by the poison called "secularism". The snakes have grown big & strong with this poison.

I am a secularist, don't want any religion to be part of government.

Nehru's unique take on it was a huge mistake, the Islamists just ran with it while those in the liberal media gave them a free hand while demonizing and ridiculing the majority every chance they got, a great injustice.

This will guarantee peace in your Country Right? Democracy for third world apes = suppressing the minority by all means

since when is equality = suppression ?

Forcing Muslims to become

We're getting rid of everyone's religious BS from the laws.

They will remain muslims and will be free to keep to their own "laws"

the sharia will just no longer be codified in the legit law of the land.

streamlining or updating/upgrading the constitution is all it is.

do they have official govt recognized islamic laws over in Germany ?

 

[Zarvan]

Slowly but steadily Indian Muslims are rising up and rising up against enemy of Islam and Muslims Narender Modi and his right hand man Amit Shah. Time for Pakistan to provide them full support and if required training for Jihad. Time to up the ante and answer India in the language it understands best.

 

[Iltutmish]

since when is equality = suppression ?

There is no such thing as equality. Forcing 200+ million Muslims to get rid of their laws will not gonna happen. The cultures are too different from each other.

We're getting rid of everyone's religious BS from the laws.

With everyone you mean especially Muslims, right?

Every religion should have their personal laws in order to sustain peace in society. Anything else will lead to unrest. An external party’s intervention will never be acceptable.

do they have official govt recognized islamic laws over in Germany ?

No, but some laws are recognized because of international private laws.

 

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There is no such thing as equality. Forcing 200+ million Muslims to get rid of their laws will not gonna happen. The cultures are too different from each other.

no, the sharia will stay for those who want to adhere to it.

just not legally recognized and implemented by the government.

some molvi or whoever islamic religious authority will still be taking care of muslim personal disputes for the overwhelming part because that is what most from that community will prefer anyway.

but then, in case of very seriously aggrieved parties who get ruled against unfairly in some inter-muslim dispute.. those people will be able to get full legal recourse, without the laws of the land being held back because the muslims have their own way of doing things... it will bring fairness and nothing really changes for the muslims.

for other communities as well, no special constitutional provisions for anyone based on their faith/religion.

nobody is banning muslims from living they way they want, or from settling issues among themselves

basically just the Shariat act will be done away with which grants them a constitutional loophole to bypass the system, which is highly unfair to actually aggrieved parties so they will have the option to challenge and over rule it by the real courts of India.

 

[-=virus=-]

With everyone you mean especially Muslims, right?

Every religion should have their personal laws in order to sustain peace in society. Anything else will lead to unrest. An external party’s intervention will never be acceptable.

muslims just happen to be the largest group who take advantage of the loophole to do things their own way

India goes one way, Muslims have been afforded too many goodies to do thing their own way.. this has only helped widen the kafir - muslim divide here. Totally understandable in the middle east or Pakistan which are explicitly Islamic countries.. the Sharia is the constitution there (which is fair imo)

but not in India, no longer.

No, but some things are recognized because of this international private laws.

what on earth are "international private laws" ?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

If India keeps attacking Islamic religious laws as they are doing, eventually they will have a homegrown insurgency. No one can blame a population for resisting such oppression as Indian Hindus are doing to Muslims.

If Indians cannot respect Muslims, then Muslims deserve their own country. India loses its right to claim Muslims and Muslim majority areas.

 

[Iltutmish]

India goes one way, Muslims have been afforded too many goodies to do thing their own way.. this has only helped widen the kafir - muslim divide here.

This divide will be there forever. No need to make everything equal whilst ignoring all the things a people is influenced by: religion, history, ethnicity, culture...

Equality cannot be achieved by force. Hindus and Muslims are two distinct (maybe the most distinct) entities, we don’t have much in common - this is not a bad thing per se - the only way to coexist is non-interference. Muslims do their stuff and are not bothered and Hindus do theirs. Nobody is insulted, nobody has the right to enforce his religious laws to the other party.

what on earth are "international private laws" ?

Conflict of laws - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Areesh]

Pajeets whining on this thread

Anyways unapologetic Muslims are an ally and a friend irrespective of where they live. Whether they live in India or USA or UK or France. We need more of such Muslims

 

[xeuss]

Pajeets whining on this thread

Anyways unapologetic Muslims are an ally and a friend irrespective of where they live. Whether they live in India or USA or UK or France. We need more of such Muslims

Lol....products of 5000 year kulcha cannot fathom that someone is standing up to their Brahmin supremacy.

 

[xeuss]

no, the sharia will stay for those who want to adhere to it.

just not legally recognized and implemented by the government.

some molvi or whoever islamic religious authority will still be taking care of muslim personal disputes for the overwhelming part because that is what most from that community will prefer anyway.

but then, in case of very seriously aggrieved parties who get ruled against unfairly in some inter-muslim dispute.. those people will be able to get full legal recourse, without the laws of the land being held back because the muslims have their own way of doing things... it will bring fairness and nothing really changes for the muslims.

for other communities as well, no special constitutional provisions for anyone based on their faith/religion.

nobody is banning muslims from living they way they want, or from settling issues among themselves

basically just the Shariat act will be done away with which grants them a constitutional loophole to bypass the system, which is highly unfair to actually aggrieved parties so they will have the option to challenge and over rule it by the real courts of India.

Couple of corrections are necessary.

1. There is no Shariat in India. There is the Muslim Personal Law Act of 1937. This Act was codified by the British and originated when Muslims of India fell under British dominion, and the British deemed it necessary to codify laws to adjudicate matters. Several states in India have variations of this Act.

2. Muslims of India do have the option (and the right) to be judged in the court of law under either the secular law or the Muslim Personal Law. Examples are you can get married by a religious ceremony, that is thus recognized, or under the Special Marriage Act of 1954. The same exists for cases of divorce and inheritance.

Rest of your comments are well taken.

 

[xeuss]

Just to let Pakistanis know, this b***ard said in a public speech that "Let us unite to break the chicken neck of India" in reference to North East

One Indian snake will definitely sympathise with another Indian snake but can few Pakistanis honestly tell what treatment would you want for a pakistani who publicly give speeches on how to break balochistan from pakistan?

That was Sharjeel Imam. He is still in jail. This is Sharjeel Usmani.

Both make you shit besides the railway tracks.

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

That was Sharjeel Imam. He is still in jail. This is Sharjeel Usmani.

Both make you shit besides the railway tracks.

Snake please hiss, dont get pissed. Teri to chaddi mein hi nikal rahi hogi 7 saal se.

Note: If these are two guys are different, it was my mistake to confuse between the two because the first name of the guy. Ye Usmani ho jo hao,hai teri hi biradari ka. Sanpola.

Note2: Wo doosra andar hai ki bahar? Uska bhi interview dig karke post kar.

 

[-=virus=-]

This divide will be there forever. No need to make everything equal whilst ignoring all the things a people is influenced by: religion, history, ethnicity, culture...

Equality cannot be achieved by force. Hindus and Muslims are two distinct (maybe the most distinct) entities, we don’t have much in common - this is not a bad thing per se - the only way to coexist is non-interference. Muslims do their stuff and are not bothered and Hindus do theirs. Nobody is insulted, nobody has the right to enforce his religious laws to the other party.

Can't say if the divide will be there forever but it sure has been here forever.

You kind of missed the point though so let me try and run it by you again.

Practically nothing will change for the muslims on the ground in terms of how they wish to live and resolve their personal matter disputes (for serious crimes the law is the same for everyone already)

However, even in case of personal disputes (not including murder etc of course as already stated) there can be times when a molvi or a council of molvis (not exactly sure how it works) the islamic authorities may rule very unfairly, even in matters which would not be considered at par with murder etc generally and left to them to sort it out.. now that is a loophole which keeps the state from stepping in and delivering JUSTICE.

So in the rare instance that happens, people who have been hurt by said unfair ruling by a sharia council, will then have the option to approach the courts, who will do the right thing, and, if needed, overrule the mullahs verdict.

This holds true for xtian inheritance and Hindu undivided family laws as well (mostly to do with inheritance fights within families)

From what I know, muslims are many times quick to ostracize people from within their families and communities for a variety of reasons, sometimes very unfair reasons. The Indian legal system should provide protection to the vulnerable from all communities.

The state is not going to be outlawing Islam or banning beards for young men and burkas/niqabs for women or anything of the sort.

We have a very broken bad secularism here, we're upgrading it.

That's all it is.