Shangri-La Dialogue 2013 Keynote Address, Nguyen Tan Dung, Prime Minister,

[EastSea]

he he,
problem is that Jew or Hakka, who is smarter ?

 

[Soryu]

I always speak and think abt the Best thing for our country. We dont need US's help to counter poor trained and coward China army. If US try to make trouble for us, then I think Vn would rather side with China to take US down first, then we can shake hand with Russia to kick China @$$ after that

China desperately hope Vn will join on its side to counter US coz they r too weak and coward, they still can liberate TW from Japan-US's occupation until now. Both China-US are not strong enough to harm us like in 1979 now, so, We just simply pick US or China as enemy and enjoy to watch them biting each other untill one of them exhauted and collapse

I believe that if US keep showing their hostile attitude to us, then they will fall like Mongol empire after defeated by Vn and after 100 years rulling the World, so, who cares abt the threat from that dying nation

you mean "can't" ... .
Well, May be you right at all, but I'm here just for what I said in early post, so ...

Did anyone actually read that guy's speech or even care what Vietnamese PM said? /yawn

I am so scared of Vietnam, /rolleyes

Like we need you do that , you take yourself too high ...

 

[Minjitta]

That's the reality of geopolitics, gpit. Partners change, we have to utilize the Vietnamese the best way we can. They scratch our back, we use them to our advantage.

Vietnam use USA to scratch her back too. Vietnam politics are changing slowly toward the West.
Lately they are talking about change the name from communist to Republic, also changing words in her national athem, and the color of Vietnam flag.

 

[Minjitta]

LOL!

It is very interesting to hear an official from a well-known untrustworthy country to talk about trust!

Quote:


See http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-far-east/255932-vietnamese-pm-nguyen-tan-dung-q-iiss.html When asked for an example who violated what international law, this dude found himself dumbfounded.


What an international joke!

I completely understand that you lack of understanding Vietnamese, the PM said not exact quote but I sum it up, "We all know who's violated, and what country so there's no needed to repeat that?

 

[Minjitta]

then we use USA to blancing with China.

hehe you funny, Vietnam got nothing for USA to use balance with China. Vietnam is just a small piece to the puzzles in Asia.

 

[Minjitta]

To be quite frank, the United States does not consider Vietnam an ally, but a regional partner. We don't want them getting into conflicts with the PRC or ROC or the Philippines.

Status quo ante bellum is good.

If there will be conflict, the 7th Fleet will pulverize anyone who dares threatens our strategic interests. Philippines and Taiwan cannot be touched. They WILL NOT be touched.

Well China TOUCH Philippine hard and taker her island, and patrol the area I haven't see any response from USA yet.

 

[Minjitta]

I always speak and think abt the Best thing for our country. We dont need US's help to counter poor trained and coward China army. If US try to make trouble for us, then I think Vn would rather side with China to take US down first, then we can shake hand with Russia to kick China @$$ after that

China desperately hope Vn will join on its side to counter US coz they r too weak and coward, they still can liberate TW from Japan-US's occupation until now. Both China-US are not strong enough to harm us like in 1979 now, so, We just simply pick US or China as enemy and enjoy to watch them biting each other untill one of them exhauted and collapse

I believe that if US keep showing their hostile attitude to us, then they will fall like Mongol empire after defeated by Vn and after 100 years rulling the World, so, who cares abt the threat from that dying nation

What are you smoking? it must be good LOL

 

[Soryu]

Vietnam use USA to scratch her back too. Vietnam politics are changing slowly toward the West.
Lately they are talking about change the name from communist to Republic, also changing words in her national athem, and the color of Vietnam flag.

Not really, I want to say a bit about this:

_ The goal of Vietnamese always was, freedom, democracy, prosperous, but they used their way, and it's not made result as expected. So they change their way, but still same path, same goal. I have to admit Western model was good to consult for us.
_ The ideal of changing country's name from Socialist Republic of Vietnam to Democratic Republic of Vietnam was explain that they want return to original name with clear, good, natural, origin meaning.
_ But I don't think this will get through by National Assembly when there's not so many people want it.

P/S: Vietnamese congress also want to modify words for National Anthem, let it fit with new era time. I think this more easy than things above...

 

[USAHawk785]

Well China TOUCH Philippine hard and taker her island, and patrol the area I haven't see any response from USA yet.

They have not launched a military attack on the civilian or military units of the Republic of the Philippines to warrant the activation of the Washington-Manila Mutual Defense Treaty. Rest assured that if a Filipino military vessel or civilian unit is attacked by military vessels of certain nations in the region, there will be hell to pay.

 

[Minjitta]

Not really, I want to say a bit about this:

_ The goal of Vietnamese always was, freedom, democracy, prosperous, but they used their way, and it's not made result as expected. So they change their way, but still same path, same goal. I have to admit Western model was good to consult for us.
_ The ideal of changing country's name from Socialist Republic of Vietnam to Democratic Republic of Vietnam was explain that they want return to original name with clear, good, natural, origin meaning.
_ But I don't think this will get through by National Assembly when there's not so many people want it.

P/S: Vietnamese congress also want to modify words for National Anthem, let it fit with new era time. I think this more easy than things above...

HCM did the right things in the first place, going back to it original name is the right move. there are very few countries on earth are Socialist.

They have not launched a military attack on the civilian or military units of the Republic of the Philippines to warrant the activation of the Washington-Manila Mutual Defense Treaty. Rest assured that if a Filipino military vessel or civilian unit is attacked by military vessels of certain nations in the region, there will be hell to pay.

so any country can take Phillipines islands with out military it's ok to USA.? if that's the case then the agreement are worthless.

 

[USAHawk785]

HCM did the right things in the first place, going back to it original name is the right move. there are very few countries on earth are Socialist.


so any country can take Phillipines islands with out military it's ok to USA.? if that's the case then the agreement are worthless.

If Philippine military units are attacked in defense of those islands, then, the Mutual Defense Treaty will be activated. The full wrath of the United States Military shall descend upon them.

 

[Minjitta]

If Philippine military units are attacked in defense of those islands, then, the Mutual Defense Treaty will be activated. The full wrath of the United States Military shall descend upon them.

Philippines just lost it opportunity to save those islands. Philippine needed to wake up, they have been asleep too long in the region and it military are out dated at least 38 years.

 

[USAHawk785]

Philippines just lost it opportunity to save those islands. Philippine needed to wake up, they have been asleep too long in the region and it military are out dated at least 38 years.

They actually have the precarious responsibility of defending over 7,101 islands and over 36,000 km of coastline. For quantitative comparison, Vietnam has a coastline of only some 3,777 km. You can see the greater responsibility their Navy and Coast Guard have to uphold, as chartered by their Constitutional Directive and Mandate to preserve and protect their sovereign territory.

The Philippines, by shear precedent of the Manila-Washington Mutual Defense Treaty, will defend their territory and the military units that are set in place to guard said area.

Certain nations and military vessels will not fire upon military units of the Philippines guarding Philippine territory because the moment they (Philippine military vessel, aircraft, land units) are attacked by a foreign military power, then the United States will defend our strategic major non-Nato ally.

This is the very reason that no power has touched or dares to touch military vessels of the Republic of the Philippines.

Who does so shall answer to the full might of the United States Navy, Airforce, and Army.

The Philippines is a former commonwealth of ours, a former protectorate and colony. She has unprecedented strategic, tactical and historical importance for the United States. She continues to be and will remain of vital strategic importance for the United States. The forward deployment of the 7th Fleet of the Pacific Naval Command ensures her harmonious protection.

 

[USAHawk785]

Philippines just lost it opportunity to save those islands. Philippine needed to wake up, they have been asleep too long in the region and it military are out dated at least 38 years.

As far as I know, in regards to recent news clippings, they have improved their economy and grows at an unprecedented rate of over 7.8%. Their current president and administration have displayed greater transparency as compared to former presidents, which have invited the heightened attention of the United States.

They have purchased 2 former Cutters of the USCG to augment their navy. They have purchased new rifles and more artillery units that will give their army a qualitative edge. Their air force is preparing for new purchases i think. The Philippines has always had a strategic advantage in terms of defensive line. Their armed forces uphold a defensive military doctrine.

One should not presuppose that they (the Philippine Armed Forces) will remain weak. They are increasing their capability as we speak. And as one who partook in CARAT back in 2008, 2009, I worked with Filipino marines and navy personnel before. It would be unwise to think that they are weak. The Filipino people are very friendly, however, their military personnel are aggressive and dangerous fighters. What they lack in qualitative arms, they make up for their mastery of the terrain and defensive military doctrine.

 

[sweetouch]

I think US forces are very much welcome in Philippines, so why not allow US base in the Spratlys so they monitor Chinese ships passing through their EEZ?