Shaheen III | News & Discussions.

[Hyperion]

Yara, no one can ever confirm if it has started already or even completed. However, I can say this much, all of the technologies existed as far back as 2007. I mean all the tech.

let suppose the project is ON or is to get The funds

Under how much can this Shaheen III with 4500km be completed?will it cost in excess of a billion dollars?

Is there really a variant of Shaheen II as Shaheen IIA-S coming up with MIRV?

 

[farhan_9909]

Yara, no one can ever confirm if it has started already or even completed. However, I can say this much, all of the technologies existed as far back as 2007. I mean all the tech.

well in 2004.if i am not wrong.

the Govt annouced to launch ghauri III after few days

But dont know why they drop the test?

does it mean the missile was developed or only faulty ones were imported from north korea?

 

[Hyperion]

In 2007, "critical" components were ready to be tested. These have been improved over the years. I'm not talking about Ghauri III. I'm talking something like Shaheen VII.....

well in 2004.if i am not wrong.

the Govt annouced to launch ghauri III after few days

But dont know why they drop the test?

does it mean the missile was developed or only faulty ones were imported from north korea?

 

[farhan_9909]

some old sources regarding the ghauri III

Pakistan Completes 'Trials' of Ghauri-III Missile Engine

Islamabad The News 30 September 1999 page 10
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has successfully completed the trials of Ghauri-III missile's engine at Kahuta Research Laboratories on Wednesday.
An official said the trials were completed at 2:30 p.m. and the ballistic missile (Ghauri-III) would cover the range of over 3,000 kilometres.

Pakistan Completes 'Trials' of Ghauri-III Missile Engine

In 2007, "critical" components were ready to be tested. These have been improved over the years. I'm not talking about Ghauri III. I'm talking something like Shaheen VII.....

i guess it would be much better to improve the Shaheen II first
Converting it into MIRV and a slightly range increase to 3500km max than getting into a completely new program

 

[Hyperion]

Doesn't work like that. Once you have mastered a technology, you can take a quantum leap. For example, canister launch of certain "cruise" missiles has helped us in parallel development of some other technology. The day we have a 'true' vertical launch capability for it, then again it will help in many other spheres. At the moment, all tech is mature to take the leap, then why crawl?

Yes, it will fail. It may fail once or twice, however, after that you will have a viable scary system. Furthermore, don't forget, some of these leaps save you big time on the cost. It's not alway that newer bigger systems are expensive. Once you have a mature platform (where you don't have to innovate and develop newer systems everyday), and when economies of scale come into play, then it becomes actually cheaper to own bigger better systems.

i guess it would be much better to improve the Shaheen II first
Converting it into MIRV and a slightly range increase to 3500km max than getting into a completely new program

 

[Hyperion]

@Dillinger, did you notice the launch of your K missile.... observe the initial ejection from the pontoon.

 

[美味中国]

BBS to brother countries for the first time, very happy, please take care.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Do we have a Classified Missile called Tipu ? I have been finding alot of speculation about the existance of such a missile

 

[AUz]

In 2007, "critical" components were ready to be tested. These have been improved over the years. I'm not talking about Ghauri III. I'm talking something like Shaheen VII

Doesn't work like that. Once you have mastered a technology, you can take a quantum leap. For example, canister launch of certain "cruise" missiles has helped us in parallel development of some other technology. The day we have a 'true' vertical launch capability for it, then again it will help in many other spheres. At the moment, all tech is mature to take the leap, then why crawl?

Yes, it will fail. It may fail once or twice, however, after that you will have a viable scary system. Furthermore, don't forget, some of these leaps save you big time on the cost. It's not alway that newer bigger systems are expensive. Once you have a mature platform (where you don't have to innovate and develop newer systems everyday), and when economies of scale come into play, then it becomes actually cheaper to own bigger better systems.

Bold words....

Can Pakistan make an effective, high-tech, MIRVed nuclear ICBM within say three years of time-period if emergency arises?

Simple answer will do..or even a hint

 

[The Deterrent]

Bold words....

Can Pakistan make an effective, high-tech, MIRVed nuclear ICBM within say three years of time-period if emergency arises?

Simple answer will do..or even a hint

Yes, everything you mentioned, minus the ICBM part (as in 5500+km range).

 

[Kompromat]

Yes, everything you mentioned, minus the ICBM part (as in 5500+km range).

Whatever happened to our SLV.

 

[The Deterrent]

Whatever happened to our SLV.

Not coming till 2016-17.

 

[Kompromat]

Not coming till 2016-17.

We ought to develop our space capabilities.

 

[The Deterrent]

We ought to develop our space capabilities.

Of course, its just that the process has been restarted with a better approach in mind, which will be beneficial in the long run.

 

[AUz]

Yes, everything you mentioned, minus the ICBM part (as in 5500+km range).

So we can have a MIRVed, high-tech, effective ballistic missile but not with the range of 5500 km?

I have *some* background in Aerospace engineering, but no way near a technical guy, but from what I understood back then was that "range" is almost the "easiest" thing to increase..if you have some critical technology like seeker, guidance etc.

How accurate my above lines are?

Do you know what "exactly" the obstacle Pakistan is facing in the path of developing an ICBM? Talking about technical obstacle, not political ramifications etc.