Sex grooming cases with British Pakistani men spark racial tensions in uk

[Shivani Malhotra]

vilayat tou puhuch gaye, leikin zehniyat wohi do takay kay jaahil gawaar ki hai…The problem is extreme insularity mixed with extreme misogyny mixed with extreme hatred for the ‘kuffar’ that breeds this.To say that the image of Pakstanis and Muslims in the UK has been further devastated by this, would be an understatement.Its not like that image was in any way positive given the growth of extremism, terrorism, forced marriages, honor crimes, separatism, sharia courts, lack of integration, anyway.And this is just the tip of the iceberg. There are more trials coming up.

 

[amidamaru]

they are 'british pakistani' probably never saw pakistan is they life time, their mother tongue is british

but this is indigenous indian rape case

if they were british born, they wouldnt be referred to as pakistani

this really does not suprise me though... predators like these people, and including all other races (yes all races are guilty of it) should be castrated and then locked in prison for life

 

[Safriz]

vilayat tou puhuch gaye, leikin zehniyat wohi do takay kay jaahil gawaar ki hai…The problem is extreme insularity mixed with extreme misogyny mixed with extreme hatred for the ‘kuffar’ that breeds this.To say that the image of Pakstanis and Muslims in the UK has been further devastated by this, would be an understatement.Its not like that image was in any way positive given the growth of extremism, terrorism, forced marriages, honor crimes, separatism, sharia courts, lack of integration, anyway.And this is just the tip of the iceberg. There are more trials coming up.

First of all nice Urdu/Hindi written there...Liked it...
Secondly no its not what you think..Its all about "Availability" .
Older men of any race/cast creed have yearning for younger females (Yes it is wrong on all levels and an older mature man should have the strength to fight his desires)...and the likes of these men who have no shame,are on drugs will shagg just about anything that moves..The situation is made worse by the abundant availability of Young stupid White girls..But be assured,these men will do the same if they get Asian females...Its another thing that white families dont keep and eye on their vulnerable youngsters...while Asians do that,specially Pakistani muslims are very strict in this matter,which does keep their young teenage girls out of harms way.

About Image of Pakistani Muslim men...
Well i am self employed but have regular interaction with Local females of all ages as my neighbors,and as part of my business,and they know i am a Pakistani Muslim...Yet nothing changed after this incident,they still trust me and don't feel threatened when i am there...
It all depends on person to person instead of the actions of a few idiots...

Why this incident has been made so popular has political motives..Rochdale is predominantly a Tory?conservative and EDL constituency and none of them like Muslims and immigrants in general..At the same time they are in Government and failed miserably to put the economy back on track..They will use any excuse to distract public from their failure..and going tough on Muslims / Immigrants is a tried and tested escape goat..
works every time.

 

[livingdead]

First of all nice Urdu/Hindi written there...Liked it...
Secondly no its not what you think..Its all about "Availability" .
Older men of any race/cast creed have yearning for younger females (Yes it is wrong on all levels and an older mature man should have the strength to fight his desires)...and the likes of these men who have no shame,are on drugs will shagg just about anything that moves..The situation is made worse by the abundant availability of Young stupid White girls..But be assured,these men will do the same if they get Asian females...Its another thing that white families dont keep and eye on their vulnerable youngsters...while Asians do that,specially Pakistani muslims are very strict in this matter,which does keep their young teenage girls out of harms way.

You are not the first guy to blame young girls for this. And no, most older men wont look for sex with so young girls.(13, 14 years) How did you come to know about this?

Anyway, we are not talking about just having sex here, we are talking about using them as baits, passing them around like a cigarette, as if they are not human being.
It has been already acknowledged that vast majority of sex offenders / paedophiles are whites in Uk (which is obvous because they are majority of population)

It seems you still have the desi worldview, that women are fancy items and they need protection.

 

[Safriz]

You are not the first guy to blame young girls for this. And no, most older men wont look for sex with so young girls.(13, 14 years) How did you come to know about this?

Anyway, we are not talking about just having sex here, we are talking about using them as baits, passing them around like a cigarette, as if they are not human being.
It has been already acknowledged that vast majority of sex offenders / paedophiles are whites in Uk (which is obvous because they are majority of population)

You may be a saint or Sadhu..Not everybody...
Keep standing on your one leg as the Sadhus do....
I was on about general public.....
And no its not about whites in Majority..Its about breaking family ties...Parents not being able to teach their kids any morals and government making stupid laws to make it harder for Parents to control youngsters..
Unless these issues are not addressed,there will be more cases like this...Only the skin color of offenders will change....
If you go out on weekends,you will be surprised to see how many teenage girls will be ready to do anything if you go and buy them a bottle of booze...because they are not allowed to buy Alcohol...This makes them vulnerable..
and i am in no mood in arguing with people who have a preset mind .
Why bother entering a discussion if you are so sure about what you know?

 

[gubbi]

.....
And no its not about whites in Majority..Its about breaking family ties...Parents not being able to teach their kids any morals and government making stupid laws to make it harder for Parents to control youngsters..

Thats one problem you cannot club with the topic under discussion. How does any of what you say relate with a bunch/group of Asian men post their prime, preying on innocent underage girls and utilizing them in an organized manner for carnal pleasures and profit? Teenagers everywhere are rebellious. That doesnt give anyone excuse to prey upon them like meat for sexual pleasures. Especially those who profess to be true followers of the words of true God.

And those who are randomly bringing up rape cases, how is any of that connected to organized exploitation by Asian Muslim men of underage girls only because they happen to be white and are considered 'loose' and 'available'? What kind of mentality is that? And what kind of mentality supports, what can only be called-defense of these actions by quoting individual rape cases or blaming 'unruly' teenagers?

@Safriz - you seem to take pride in your neighbors' trust in you. Good for you. FYI, it was this kind of very trust that these animals abused to exploit these innocent girls. Text book cases!

 

[gambit]

Thats one problem you cannot club with the topic under discussion. How does any of what you say relate with a bunch/group of Asian men post their prime, preying on innocent underage girls and utilizing them in an organized manner for carnal pleasures and profit? Teenagers everywhere are rebellious. That doesnt give anyone excuse to prey upon them like meat for sexual pleasures. Especially those who profess to be true followers of the words of true God.

And those who are randomly bringing up rape cases, how is any of that connected to organized exploitation by Asian Muslim men of underage girls only because they happen to be white and are considered 'loose' and 'available'? What kind of mentality is that? And what kind of mentality supports, what can only be called-defense of these actions by quoting individual rape cases or blaming 'unruly' teenagers?

@Safriz - you seem to take pride in your neighbors' trust in you. Good for you. FYI, it was this kind of very trust that these animals abused to exploit these innocent girls. Text book cases!

There is the uncomfortable question...

 

[livingdead]

You may be a saint or Sadhu..Not everybody...
Keep standing on your one leg as the Sadhus do....
I was on about general public.....

I am no sadhu, I am quite 'normal'. I dont feel attracted to children, or specific type of women etc, everybody have their own 'choices'. You cant generalize that all old men fancy children (may be in Japan, lol)
About whites being majority, I was just drawing attention to the fact that majority of sex offenders/rapists/paedophiles are whites themselves not pakistani origin.
However we are talking about 'street grooming', which is a niche crime area.

 

[foxbat]

that was a cheap shot at trying to insult us...
Why would you ask if we are involved in Pedophilia? Did is ask you for sex or something? Just trying to figure out the reason behind your more than silly question.
No wonder many of us get Fixated at opening Dalit and urine threads about India....
Many of you Indians have permanent Post/pre menstrual trauma despite being men and the worst part is that we the PDF members get a barrage of your defecation on regular basis...
If ou have got issues in real life solve them in real life instead of taking out your anger on strangers over the internet...

Are you really mad?? Please re read what I have written and specially the last lines.. :facepalm:

 

[jayron]

Then may be estimate of the government.



What are you trying to say?

Pakistanis take great pride in claiming that they don't look anything like Indians. Now I get what you guys meant.

 

[Safriz]

Thats one problem you cannot club with the topic under discussion. How does any of what you say relate with a bunch/group of Asian men post their prime, preying on innocent underage girls and utilizing them in an organized manner for carnal pleasures and profit? Teenagers everywhere are rebellious. That doesnt give anyone excuse to prey upon them like meat for sexual pleasures. Especially those who profess to be true followers of the words of true God.

And those who are randomly bringing up rape cases, how is any of that connected to organized exploitation by Asian Muslim men of underage girls only because they happen to be white and are considered 'loose' and 'available'? What kind of mentality is that? And what kind of mentality supports, what can only be called-defense of these actions by quoting individual rape cases or blaming 'unruly' teenagers?

@Safriz - you seem to take pride in your neighbors' trust in you. Good for you. FYI, it was this kind of very trust that these animals abused to exploit these innocent girls. Text book cases!

You are misinformed on many levels....
Yes the issues of bad parenting and child sex abuse are inter related...Parents are respondible of teaching one basic thing to their children "dont talk to strangers".
The parents of these abused teens failed miserably at that,but that is no excuse for adult men to become sex predators..
You are cherry picking my comments. I never supported these men,and no if one is born in a muslim family thst does not make them saints...each to their own..
The media is painting the isdue as if it was abduction......the teens werent abducted and came after booze and drugs at the same time habing multiple secual intercourse before getting caught..
When they got caught they posed as if they were taken on gun point ny these men..
So yes there are many sides of the story.
If the teens were abducted,thst was a different thing.

And i am unaware of any case where asian teenage girls consented to sex for booxe anf drugs with white men...
I am sure many of you frantically googled for that..so if thee were any suvh cases therewould have been news of it..
Becsuse most asian parents keep a watchful eye on their youngsters.

i bet all the expat paks are the same, maybe even worse.

I bet you are an idiot..may be even mad..
Lol...

 

[KingMamba]

this happend is every sociaty in india 40% caught in jail are muslim and they are nearly 13.4% (sachher commitee ).any reason where muslim population growing and they create tension to other communitee

So that means 60% are not Muslims, what is your point?

People need to stop making this a religious/nationality based issue. There are bad apples in every community. Also, very disappointed by members who are blaming the "white ******" rather than the criminal men doing these acts.

Thank You, your the only Indian on this thread who didn't come here to flame. Also agree with the second part blaming the victim is stupid as hell.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

There is the uncomfortable question...

very much so
but question yourself

should a select community be hounded and made to feel guilty over the sex crime of these people who didnt give a second thought to what will be the fall out?


I wonder why those day care nursery women were not termed as White English Christians who were taking indecent pictures of todlers and infants and then passing them on to their White male gang leader.

why there is dying need to mention the race and religion if the person happens to be a non-White non-Christian. (say Asian Muslim)in the Media?

I know the Fascist Organisation like BNP is having a field day because the culprits happen to have Pakistani roots and their names suggest that they are Muslims
wow what a jackpot

but I bet a pin drop silence when yet another story of Child abuse in a Church or day care centre etc comes out and the accused happens to be White.