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Sensitive Data of Indian Navy’s Scorpene Class Submarines Leaked

Seriously? You are entitled to whatever opinion you want but your attempts to go after the journalist in question is silly. According to you, there is nothing to bother, right? That position is yours to take but acting like everyone else who doesn't fall in line is gullible, naive or is pointless. if you believe there is nothing to the story, say so & move on. A lot of us disagree and we haven't all being bought or lack in intelligence.

It isn't embarrassment for India? Right? Tell it to the DM , the MoD and the navy who have been busy the last 24 odd hours desperately trying to keep a brave face. According to you, they should have all said who cares & gone back to sleep. Whether Australia was the main target & India was merely a side show is of no interest to me, all i know is that it is India who has been the subject of international spotlight and not at all in a pleasant way.

So we have gullible masses, presstitute media, now of course including the international media and almost all our experts & retired high ranking officers who have suggested differently to your take on the matter are all either compromised, stupid or cunning.... all but just the couple of geniuses including yourself who are the sole repositories of all intelligence and are the sole keepers of the national interest (and by default, that of DCNS)

You have no idea what the 22400 pages contain, no idea whether that is the total extent of the leak, yet you so masterfully & without a doubt, pontificate on how the rest of the world, atleast this country of ours is filled with only the stupid, the gullible &/or the conniving. Quite simply, the arrogance of that position where you refuse to allow for even an iota of doubt is mind boggling. After all, no one else knows anything...unless of course they agree with you....
So what is the Alternative? Start Crying and throw a Hissile Fit , Cancel all deals? Sink the one Sub we have? Tell AUS to cancel the deal with DCNS? Run around and pull out our hairs? Send gifts and present and award the Reporter for doing his Job ?? Ask the IN chief and DM Parrikar to resign and beg for mercy from the citizen of India ? oh wait Call the IN Intelligence he too should resign !
Get more people to check if there is more leaks and if YES , start all over again with Crying and throw a Hissile Fit and Cancel all deals? Wow that sound FUN!!!! Lets do that!
 
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Seriously? You are entitled to whatever opinion you want but your attempts to go after the journalist in question is silly. According to you, there is nothing to bother, right? That position is yours to take but acting like everyone else who doesn't fall in line is gullible, naive or is pointless. if you believe there is nothing to the story, say so & move on. A lot of us disagree and we haven't all being bought or lack in intelligence.

It isn't embarrassment for India? Right? Tell it to the DM , the MoD and the navy who have been busy the last 24 odd hours desperately trying to keep a brave face. According to you, they should have all said who cares & gone back to sleep. Whether Australia was the main target & India was merely a side show is of no interest to me, all i know is that it is India who has been the subject of international spotlight and not at all in a pleasant way.

So we have gullible masses, presstitute media, now of course including the international media and almost all our experts & retired high ranking officers who have suggested differently to your take on the matter are all either compromised, stupid or cunning.... all but just the couple of geniuses including yourself who are the sole repositories of all intelligence and are the sole keepers of the national interest (and by default, that of DCNS)

You have no idea what the 22400 pages contain, no idea whether that is the total extent of the leak, yet you so masterfully & without a trace of doubt, pontificate on how the rest of the world, atleast this country of ours is filled with only the stupid, the gullible &/or the conniving. Quite simply, the arrogance of that position where you refuse to allow for even an iota of doubt is mind boggling. After all, no one else knows anything...unless of course they agree with you....

That exactly is the position i wanted you to show.. bcz that clarifies that all logic and rationality can go to trash.. Perhaps you have not gone through all these pages thats why you feel i only believe that my view point is the correct viewpoint and nothing else is correct.

iota of doubt - lol - in what manner i did not say what those 22k if it contains proprietary part is non risky?

Indeed i am a genius.. and i am happy you could spot that.. but like everyone else who can doubt and keep doubting for next 100 years, the soldiers dont doubt when they get a weapon. They dont go out thinking their boats are compromised. or their weapons are compromised...

And yes i am also a sole keeper of DCNS (damn I missed Dassault Aviation whom i suppose to represent in the Rafale thread) perhaps a honorary French citizen sounds better.. Bcz everytime i prove with logic and rationality , i am either a DA employee or a DCNS connected one..

Nice .. I am happy you finally spotted me ..
 
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Seriously? You are entitled to whatever opinion you want but your attempts to go after the journalist in question is silly. According to you, there is nothing to bother, right? That position is yours to take but acting like everyone else who doesn't fall in line is gullible, naive or is pointless. if you believe there is nothing to the story, say so & move on. A lot of us disagree and we haven't all being bought or lack in intelligence.

It isn't embarrassment for India? Right? Tell it to the DM , the MoD and the navy who have been busy the last 24 odd hours desperately trying to keep a brave face. According to you, they should have all said who cares & gone back to sleep. Whether Australia was the main target & India was merely a side show is of no interest to me, all i know is that it is India who has been the subject of international spotlight and not at all in a pleasant way.

So we have gullible masses, presstitute media, now of course including the international media and almost all our experts & retired high ranking officers who have suggested differently to your take on the matter are all either compromised, stupid or cunning.... all but just the couple of geniuses including yourself who are the sole repositories of all intelligence and are the sole keepers of the national interest (and by default, that of DCNS)

You have no idea what the 22400 pages contain, no idea whether that is the total extent of the leak, yet you so masterfully & without a trace of doubt, pontificate on how the rest of the world, atleast this country of ours is filled with only the stupid, the gullible &/or the conniving. Quite simply, the arrogance of that position where you refuse to allow for even an iota of doubt is mind boggling. After all, no one else knows anything...unless of course they agree with you....

Ok.

Humor me.

Going off topic and tangentially.

Bofors FH-77B. The deal was 500 guns off the shelf plus 1500 to be licence produced.

My intial days on PDF in 2009, I claimed TOT was completed in 1989, members here laughed, some have become very seniors and title holders since, I used to rarely post, nowadays just feel like , so do.


How did I know? Because army was aware of it, it was an open secret. And what happened? We spent scarce foreign reserves in those days, cried wolf, deprived ourselves of money as also equipment for next quarter of a century. So, by banning, we only shot ourselves in the foot. This is not only negligence, but an act of treason against the nation along with outright theft.

Now extrapolate it to Scorpene. The 1st is out. Firstly, I reiterate what I typed earlier, restricted classification is of no serious consequence. It is serious from confidential (not too serious) but becomes outright treason at secret classification.

Assuming the worst, you can tweak all your subsequent boats. Big effing difference. The OEM is bound by the contract, you have to do the necessary leg work and your own assessment. Cancelling it means effectively relegating naval underwater arm to being only a museum piece till next project gets online.

One has to be pragmatic and not get emotional.

Now let me extrapolate it to any weapon. Every tank, artillery and missile of army has its technical specifications on net. So what? It is again the quantum of force and your 'information denial' capability that shall decide your future battles.

Every tom, whose friend dick is hairy, talks of information warfare. That era is over, now it is denial. Your "Battle space management". You deny information to enemy.


Chill.

And your point of the journalist? He should be picked up by Australian Mil Intelligence for compromising the security of a friendly nation. Waiting for that.

Cheers

PS: I addressed you because the third generation in my family uses the same personal weapon, an effing 9mm SMC, in uniform, because arm chair warriors and experts know squat and talk rot.

Just my POV.
 
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So what is the Alternative? Start Crying and throw a Hissile Fit , Cancel all deals? Sink the one Sub we have? Tell AUS to cancel the deal with DCNS? Run around and pull out our hairs? Send gifts and present and award the Reporter for doing his Job ?? Ask the IN chief and DM Parrikar to resign and beg for mercy from the citizen of India ? oh wait Call the IN Intelligence he too should resign !
Get more people to check if there is more leaks and if YES , start all over again with Crying and throw a Hissile Fit and Cancel all deals? Wow that sound FUN!!!! Lets do that!

Nope, what is necessary is to look at this dispassionately and see where we stand, where we can go from here & what steps we take. All, entirely calmly. What MoD is saying is what is expected & what they should say. However that should not prevent us from looking at this closely which the MoD too will do, behind closed doors. There may be many guys sanguine about this issue here, not many in the MoD and the navy will share that.

The alternative to not doing what you say we should not do do is not to stick our heads in the sand.

Assuming the worst, you can tweak all your subsequent boats. Big effing difference. The OEM is bound by the contract, you have to do the necessary leg work and your own assessment. Cancelling it means effectively relegating naval underwater arm to being only a museum piece till next project gets online.

Nobody has spoken of cancellation, certainly not me. I have taken issue with some posts dismissing this as of no great consequence. Even to tweak implies an acknowledgement of a possible problem

One has to be pragmatic and not get emotional.

Absolutely.


And your point of the journalist? He should be picked up by Australian Mil Intelligence for compromising the security of a friendly nation. Waiting for that.

Again, going after the wrong guy. The journalists didn't compromise the "security", he brought out the fact that it has been compromised. Are you saying we would have been better off not knowing that this information was out there thereby not even bothering to take any corrective action?
 
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Again, going after the wrong guy. The journalists didn't compromise the "security", he brought out the fact that it has been compromised. Are you saying we would have been better off not knowing that this information was out there thereby not even bothering to take any corrective action?

Just a curious question, going by your logic. If someone takes your nude pic and another guy publish it on the newspaper. You will thank the newspaper guy for letting you and everyone know that your picture was taken? Don't take me wrong, just confused by your logic.

Good Day to you!
 
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Nobody has spoken of cancellation, certainly not me. I have taken issue with some posts dismissing this as of no great consequence. Even to tweak implies an acknowledgement of a possible problem.

It IS of no great consequence, that is why one has to dismiss it as such.


Another example, an aircraft's design can only be in a certain way, the innovations and tweaking that could be done to produce an aerodynamic design with the minimal drag, have peaked and remained roughly static over the past decade and a half. So what changed? Engine - lighter, smaller with greater power. That also can add maximum 5-10% in these and efficiency criteria in various permutations and combinations. So, peaked.

Where is the money? Avionics. That is the only place where one can innovate and create new suites to enhance functionality.

Similarly, the specifications of any boat are known. A rough estimate can easily be made assuming the displacement and available engines world over. That data can be collated and extrapolated across multiple platforms. The difference comes in electronic suites, sensors and the individual boat's 'screw' acoustic signature. That, my dear friend, needs to be determined by Indian navy by tracking the sub in its sea trial phase continuously as various parameters are tested and a profile for own vessel made. The sonar, the torpedo etc, all is available in market, the data is also available. The difference is on what you add after the vessel goes operational. Think over it.

Again, going after the wrong guy. The journalists didn't compromise the "security", he brought out the fact that it has been compromised. Are you saying we would have been better off not knowing that this information was out there thereby not even bothering to take any corrective action?

I know of a certain operation which never took place officially. Can I go and shout out without being booked under Official Secrets Act of 1923 as amended time to time?

Also, being a friendly power, Australia will have to investigate the matter and inform accordingly. None of my concern if they impale him, I need my assets secured. That is all.
 
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It’s in the mail: how submarine secrets surfaced in Australia
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Secrets surfaced

In late April 2013 a Sydney postman reached into his satchel and pulled out a small envelope containing the secrets of India’s new submarine fleet.

He dropped the letter, with a Singapore stamp on it, in a private post office box and moved on.

The envelope, containing a small data disc, remained there for days, along with a Telstra bill and junk mail, before being picked up on April 24, 2013, by a man who took it home and pushed the disk into his computer.

This week the contents of that disk have become front-page news in Australia, India and France as each country grapples with the ramifications of an Edward Snowden-style leak of confidential documents disclosing the entire secret combat capability of India’s new Scorpene-class submarine fleet.


The leak is of more than passing interest to Australia because the documents come from the same French shipbuilder, DCNS, that will design 12 submarines for the Royal Australian Navy in the country’s largest and most expensive defence project.

But it is of far greater urgency to India, which fears that if a foreign spy service has acquired the data its six Scorpene submarines, costing a total of $US3 billion ($3.93bn), could be dead in the water before they sail. France is also in damage control as it tries to understand and explain how 22,400 of its secret documents on India’s submarines crossed the world to be delivered by a Sydney postie.

None of these three countries was aware of the leak until this week, when The Australian asked DCNS Australia on Monday afternoon to comment on an astonishing data file it had seen, marked “Restricted Scorpene India”, which laid bare almost every secret capability of India’s new submarines. These included the contracted parameters and capabilities of the submarine’s stealth features, its noise signatures at different speeds, its range, endurance, diving depths, magnetic and infra-red data. In other words, the full suite of submarine capability spread over 22,400 documents that any navy would consider to be classified and highly sensitive.

The news set off a remarkable chain of events, which says much about the high stakes involved for each country. On receiving questions about the leak from The Australian on Monday, the Canberra office of France’s DCNS immediately deferred to its head office in Paris.

The ramifications of a news story revealing the mega-data dump on such a sensitive project were immediately obvious. India would be furious, but so too would Malaysia, Chile and Brazil, which also have, or will soon have, DCNS Scorpene submarines. And Australia was also likely to be concerned about the security of its own new partnership with the French defence giant.

DCNS officials in Paris urgently checked their files, looking for signs of espionage.


On Tuesday morning, DCNS officials in Paris came back to their Canberra DCNS colleagues with the news that they could find no immediate evidence of a security breach that would explain such a massive data leak.

The DCNS team in Canberra met to workshop the problem. It was a sobering moment for them. The tight-knit group led by Sean Costello, former chief of staff to former defence minister David Johnston, were considered heroes by DCNS in Paris for pulling off an unlikely victory against the more heavily favoured Germans and Japanese to win the lucrative contract to design Australia’s future submarines. The leak was not their fault, but they would be saddled with its legacy, which would be that their commercial rivals would exploit every opportunity to say the French can never be trusted with Australia’s secrets.

The group reasoned that the most likely scenario was that a commercial competitor was seeking to sabotage the company and had somehow obtained and then leaked the data. The obvious suspects were the losers in the submarine bid, Germany and Japan, but why would they wait for four months after the decision to strike?


If the leak was a global attack on DCNS then Norway, rather than Australia, would have been the obvious place to strike given that DCNS is now trying to pitch its Scorpene submarine to the Norwegian Navy, whereas the Australian deal was already stitched up.

DCNS had no answers and so it was assumed the most likely source of the leak was from the Indian side. The company wrote a carefully worded statement that implied — but did not state — that the leak came from India.

By late Tuesday afternoon DCNS realised it had to tell the Australian government that some very bad news was to be published the next day. The company called the head of Defence’s Future Submarine Project, Rear Admiral Greg Sammut, who then called Defence Department secretary Dennis Richardson. Defence Industry Minister Christopher Pyne was also briefed.

In New Delhi, India’s Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar was asleep when an aide woke him at midnight and showed him the report on The Australian’s website.


For Parrikar the news was devastating. He had a strong personal investment in India’s Scorpene submarines. Just over a year earlier, on April 6, 2015, he had watched the “undocking” ceremony in Mumbai as the first of India’s six Scorpene submarines, Kalvari, meaning Tiger Shark, was celebrated. The new submarine, decked in garlands and Indian flags, represented the pinnacle of the Indian Navy. A prayer ceremony was held to bless the boat.

The Scorpenes were a badly needed replacement for India’s ageing fleet of Russian Kilo-class and German Type 209 submarines that were almost three decades old and often confined to port with technical problems.

The DCNS Scorpene, however, was ordered in 2005 to spearhead India’s submarine fleet because, it boasted, in the words of the Indian Express: “Stealth features (which) give it invulnerability, unmatched by many submarines.”

But as Parrikar woke, the invulnerability of his pet project was in doubt. He ordered his chief of navy to launch an urgent investigation into the leak and what damage it had potentially caused.

At 6.30am in Australia, Pyne had read The Australian’s report and was soon on the phone to Richardson to discuss how to respond.

Sources say Richardson was of the view that Australia’s own security arrangements surrounding the new submarine project were already robust and there was no need to reinvent the wheel on security just because of the leak.

Pyne agreed, but also wanted to give a gentle message to the French. He asked Richardson to convey “a reminder” to DCNS that Australia expects the security of classified information on the future submarine project to be as tight as Australia’s handling of security information with its closest ally, the US. The subtext was, this is serious, don’t let this happen again.

But Pyne also knew the story would run strongly in Australia unless he tried to kill it quickly, so at about 8.30am he issued a press release claiming — without having access to the 22,400 leaked documents — that Defence had advised that the leak would have “no bearing” on Australia’s submarine program.


It was a public statement at odds with his private instruction to Richardson, but in Pyne’s view the quicker he could wash Australia’s hands of what he knew would be a nasty international furore the better.

India woke on Wednesday to the report that its submarine fleet had been potentially compromised by the leak of thousands of secret documents. Within hours it was the biggest story in the country. Under pressure to provide a quick answer, Parrikar said the leak appeared to be a case of hacking but he offered nothing to support this theory, which he later backed away from.

In Paris, DCNS realised it had a public relations and security disaster on its hands, with the story being reported on the front page of the newspaper Le Monde, followed the next day by a front-page cartoon lampooning the French security services.

DCNS backed away from the claim that India had caused the leak and the French government stepped in to announce that its defence security officials would investigate.

The Indian government also announced an investigation, but with every major Indian newspaper reporting the story on its front page, the government urged patience until its navy could assess the leak and the damage caused.


But it seems that the story behind this leak may be more incompetence than espionage — more Austin Powers than James Bond. The Weekend Australian has been told by sources that the data was removed from DCNS in Paris in 2011 by a former French Navy officer who quit the service in the early 1970s and worked for French defence companies for more than 30 years before becoming a subcontractor to DCNS.

Sources say they believe this subcontractor somehow copied the sensitive data from DCNS in France and, along with a French colleague, took it to a Southeast Asian country. If so, he broke the law and may face prosecution.

The two men worked in that Southeast Asian country carrying out unclassified naval defence work.

The speculation is that the data on the Scorpene was removed to serve as a reference guide for the former naval officer’s new job, but it is unclear why anyone would risk breaking the law by taking classified data for such a purpose.

The two men are then said to have the fallen out with their employer, a private company run by a Western businessman. They were sacked and refused re-entry to their building. At least one of the men asked to retrieve the data on the Scorpene but they were refused and the company — possibly not knowing the significance of the data — held on to it.

The secret data was then sent to the company’s head office in Singapore, where the company’s IT chief — again probably not knowing its significance — tried to load it on an internet server for the person in Sydney who was slated to replace the two sacked French workers.

The data was placed on a server on April 18, 2013, and it was then that it was dangerously vulnerable to hacking or interception by a foreign intelligence service. It is not known whether the data stayed on this server for a few days or for a year. It is not known if any foreign intelligence service obtained it during this time.

Unable to send such a large file over the net and not knowing the significance of the data, the Singapore company sent it on a data disk by regular post to Sydney.

When the recipient, who was experienced in defence issues, opened the file on his home computer he was stunned. He was expecting to read notes on a low-level naval program, but before him lay the secret capabilities of the new Indian submarine fleet.

The data was not encrypted so he transferred it to an encrypted disk. That evening the man wiped the old disk with special software, grabbed a hammer and smashed it to pieces in his backyard.

He placed the new encrypted disk in a locked filing cabinet in his office and there it remained for more than two years.


In the back room of Cafe Loco, in the Melbourne suburb of Elsternwick, the man arrives, sits down and pulls out a data disk from his pocket. He orders a hamburger then slips the disk into his laptop. He says he has something to show me, but not give to me.

Why are you doing this I ask?

He replies: “In the wake of the recent future submarine decision (in Australia) this matter went from one of a very serious breach for both France and India to a matter of national security significance to Australia and the US.”

In other words, he wants Australia to know that its future submarine partner, France, has already lost control of secret data on India’s new submarines. His hope is that this will spur the Turnbull government and DCNS to step up security to ensure Australia’s $50 billion submarine project does not suffer the same fate.

He says he is a whistleblower and maintains that revealing to the world, via The Australian, that this classified data exists in a dangerously uncontrolled form is worthwhile because it will serve Australia’s interests even if it causes an international furore.

He presses a button on his computer and his screen flickers to life.

Here in a Melbourne cafe, amid the clatter of plates, laughter and the smell of coffee, he scrolls through the secrets of India’s submarine fleet. He has not broken any laws and the authorities know who he is. He plans to surrender the disk to the government on Monday.

Source:http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...bb358581cf27819acfb+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=in
 
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Its too early to jump on any conclusion, only time will tell. What is not being compromised in India anyways? From hardware to software everything is imported, even in government offices. Unless we become self reliant on everything, these incidents will keep happening.
 
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It’s in the mail: how submarine secrets surfaced in Australia
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Secrets surfaced

In late April 2013 a Sydney postman reached into his satchel and pulled out a small envelope containing the secrets of India’s new submarine fleet.

He dropped the letter, with a Singapore stamp on it, in a private post office box and moved on.

The envelope, containing a small data disc, remained there for days, along with a Telstra bill and junk mail, before being picked up on April 24, 2013, by a man who took it home and pushed the disk into his computer.

This week the contents of that disk have become front-page news in Australia, India and France as each country grapples with the ramifications of an Edward Snowden-style leak of confidential documents disclosing the entire secret combat capability of India’s new Scorpene-class submarine fleet.


The leak is of more than passing interest to Australia because the documents come from the same French shipbuilder, DCNS, that will design 12 submarines for the Royal Australian Navy in the country’s largest and most expensive defence project.

But it is of far greater urgency to India, which fears that if a foreign spy service has acquired the data its six Scorpene submarines, costing a total of $US3 billion ($3.93bn), could be dead in the water before they sail. France is also in damage control as it tries to understand and explain how 22,400 of its secret documents on India’s submarines crossed the world to be delivered by a Sydney postie.

None of these three countries was aware of the leak until this week, when The Australian asked DCNS Australia on Monday afternoon to comment on an astonishing data file it had seen, marked “Restricted Scorpene India”, which laid bare almost every secret capability of India’s new submarines. These included the contracted parameters and capabilities of the submarine’s stealth features, its noise signatures at different speeds, its range, endurance, diving depths, magnetic and infra-red data. In other words, the full suite of submarine capability spread over 22,400 documents that any navy would consider to be classified and highly sensitive.

The news set off a remarkable chain of events, which says much about the high stakes involved for each country. On receiving questions about the leak from The Australian on Monday, the Canberra office of France’s DCNS immediately deferred to its head office in Paris.

The ramifications of a news story revealing the mega-data dump on such a sensitive project were immediately obvious. India would be furious, but so too would Malaysia, Chile and Brazil, which also have, or will soon have, DCNS Scorpene submarines. And Australia was also likely to be concerned about the security of its own new partnership with the French defence giant.

DCNS officials in Paris urgently checked their files, looking for signs of espionage.


On Tuesday morning, DCNS officials in Paris came back to their Canberra DCNS colleagues with the news that they could find no immediate evidence of a security breach that would explain such a massive data leak.

The DCNS team in Canberra met to workshop the problem. It was a sobering moment for them. The tight-knit group led by Sean Costello, former chief of staff to former defence minister David Johnston, were considered heroes by DCNS in Paris for pulling off an unlikely victory against the more heavily favoured Germans and Japanese to win the lucrative contract to design Australia’s future submarines. The leak was not their fault, but they would be saddled with its legacy, which would be that their commercial rivals would exploit every opportunity to say the French can never be trusted with Australia’s secrets.

The group reasoned that the most likely scenario was that a commercial competitor was seeking to sabotage the company and had somehow obtained and then leaked the data. The obvious suspects were the losers in the submarine bid, Germany and Japan, but why would they wait for four months after the decision to strike?


If the leak was a global attack on DCNS then Norway, rather than Australia, would have been the obvious place to strike given that DCNS is now trying to pitch its Scorpene submarine to the Norwegian Navy, whereas the Australian deal was already stitched up.

DCNS had no answers and so it was assumed the most likely source of the leak was from the Indian side. The company wrote a carefully worded statement that implied — but did not state — that the leak came from India.

By late Tuesday afternoon DCNS realised it had to tell the Australian government that some very bad news was to be published the next day. The company called the head of Defence’s Future Submarine Project, Rear Admiral Greg Sammut, who then called Defence Department secretary Dennis Richardson. Defence Industry Minister Christopher Pyne was also briefed.

In New Delhi, India’s Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar was asleep when an aide woke him at midnight and showed him the report on The Australian’s website.


For Parrikar the news was devastating. He had a strong personal investment in India’s Scorpene submarines. Just over a year earlier, on April 6, 2015, he had watched the “undocking” ceremony in Mumbai as the first of India’s six Scorpene submarines, Kalvari, meaning Tiger Shark, was celebrated. The new submarine, decked in garlands and Indian flags, represented the pinnacle of the Indian Navy. A prayer ceremony was held to bless the boat.

The Scorpenes were a badly needed replacement for India’s ageing fleet of Russian Kilo-class and German Type 209 submarines that were almost three decades old and often confined to port with technical problems.

The DCNS Scorpene, however, was ordered in 2005 to spearhead India’s submarine fleet because, it boasted, in the words of the Indian Express: “Stealth features (which) give it invulnerability, unmatched by many submarines.”

But as Parrikar woke, the invulnerability of his pet project was in doubt. He ordered his chief of navy to launch an urgent investigation into the leak and what damage it had potentially caused.

At 6.30am in Australia, Pyne had read The Australian’s report and was soon on the phone to Richardson to discuss how to respond.

Sources say Richardson was of the view that Australia’s own security arrangements surrounding the new submarine project were already robust and there was no need to reinvent the wheel on security just because of the leak.

Pyne agreed, but also wanted to give a gentle message to the French. He asked Richardson to convey “a reminder” to DCNS that Australia expects the security of classified information on the future submarine project to be as tight as Australia’s handling of security information with its closest ally, the US. The subtext was, this is serious, don’t let this happen again.

But Pyne also knew the story would run strongly in Australia unless he tried to kill it quickly, so at about 8.30am he issued a press release claiming — without having access to the 22,400 leaked documents — that Defence had advised that the leak would have “no bearing” on Australia’s submarine program.


It was a public statement at odds with his private instruction to Richardson, but in Pyne’s view the quicker he could wash Australia’s hands of what he knew would be a nasty international furore the better.

India woke on Wednesday to the report that its submarine fleet had been potentially compromised by the leak of thousands of secret documents. Within hours it was the biggest story in the country. Under pressure to provide a quick answer, Parrikar said the leak appeared to be a case of hacking but he offered nothing to support this theory, which he later backed away from.

In Paris, DCNS realised it had a public relations and security disaster on its hands, with the story being reported on the front page of the newspaper Le Monde, followed the next day by a front-page cartoon lampooning the French security services.

DCNS backed away from the claim that India had caused the leak and the French government stepped in to announce that its defence security officials would investigate.

The Indian government also announced an investigation, but with every major Indian newspaper reporting the story on its front page, the government urged patience until its navy could assess the leak and the damage caused.


But it seems that the story behind this leak may be more incompetence than espionage — more Austin Powers than James Bond. The Weekend Australian has been told by sources that the data was removed from DCNS in Paris in 2011 by a former French Navy officer who quit the service in the early 1970s and worked for French defence companies for more than 30 years before becoming a subcontractor to DCNS.

Sources say they believe this subcontractor somehow copied the sensitive data from DCNS in France and, along with a French colleague, took it to a Southeast Asian country. If so, he broke the law and may face prosecution.

The two men worked in that Southeast Asian country carrying out unclassified naval defence work.

The speculation is that the data on the Scorpene was removed to serve as a reference guide for the former naval officer’s new job, but it is unclear why anyone would risk breaking the law by taking classified data for such a purpose.

The two men are then said to have the fallen out with their employer, a private company run by a Western businessman. They were sacked and refused re-entry to their building. At least one of the men asked to retrieve the data on the Scorpene but they were refused and the company — possibly not knowing the significance of the data — held on to it.

The secret data was then sent to the company’s head office in Singapore, where the company’s IT chief — again probably not knowing its significance — tried to load it on an internet server for the person in Sydney who was slated to replace the two sacked French workers.

The data was placed on a server on April 18, 2013, and it was then that it was dangerously vulnerable to hacking or interception by a foreign intelligence service. It is not known whether the data stayed on this server for a few days or for a year. It is not known if any foreign intelligence service obtained it during this time.

Unable to send such a large file over the net and not knowing the significance of the data, the Singapore company sent it on a data disk by regular post to Sydney.

When the recipient, who was experienced in defence issues, opened the file on his home computer he was stunned. He was expecting to read notes on a low-level naval program, but before him lay the secret capabilities of the new Indian submarine fleet.

The data was not encrypted so he transferred it to an encrypted disk. That evening the man wiped the old disk with special software, grabbed a hammer and smashed it to pieces in his backyard.

He placed the new encrypted disk in a locked filing cabinet in his office and there it remained for more than two years.


In the back room of Cafe Loco, in the Melbourne suburb of Elsternwick, the man arrives, sits down and pulls out a data disk from his pocket. He orders a hamburger then slips the disk into his laptop. He says he has something to show me, but not give to me.

Why are you doing this I ask?

He replies: “In the wake of the recent future submarine decision (in Australia) this matter went from one of a very serious breach for both France and India to a matter of national security significance to Australia and the US.”

In other words, he wants Australia to know that its future submarine partner, France, has already lost control of secret data on India’s new submarines. His hope is that this will spur the Turnbull government and DCNS to step up security to ensure Australia’s $50 billion submarine project does not suffer the same fate.

He says he is a whistleblower and maintains that revealing to the world, via The Australian, that this classified data exists in a dangerously uncontrolled form is worthwhile because it will serve Australia’s interests even if it causes an international furore.

He presses a button on his computer and his screen flickers to life.

Here in a Melbourne cafe, amid the clatter of plates, laughter and the smell of coffee, he scrolls through the secrets of India’s submarine fleet. He has not broken any laws and the authorities know who he is. He plans to surrender the disk to the government on Monday.

Source:http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...bb358581cf27819acfb+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=in

For Frak's sake - What is DCNS? A McDonald's or a Walmart????

And the switchroo from intial blaming India to then backing out of that. Not informing India directly which is impacted but informing Australians first. It is highly embarrassing that DM had to be woken up in the middle of night by an aide who saw the Aussie paper report online instead of being given prior information by DCNS which knew about it atleast a day before. DM said so himself..@PARIKRAMA why is that DCNS didn't inform India directly?

I expect MoD to refute this chain of event else India would have lost lot of credibility.
 
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Just a curious question, going by your logic. If someone takes your nude pic and another guy publish it on the newspaper. You will thank the newspaper guy for letting you and everyone know that your picture was taken? Don't take me wrong, just confused by your logic.

Good Day to you!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::lol::lol:
 
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Save face over here and use the opportunity to quash any regret-burdened deals with the French that are proving to be costly and unattractive, no?
 
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