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Secret Memo of Zardari to Adm. Mike Mullen

Once upon a time in a land far far away, lived a boy, we shall call him Has Kani, he was a very intelligent young man, some said, he was so sharp he could cut himself, Has was a good kid, but he liked telling tales. One day the wise old wizard, and the village squire decided to play a trick on young Kani.

He trusted a little goblin - who was not - what he appeared to be, he was a shape shifter, alas young Has Kani fell into the trap - and the little goblin played him. The wise old wizard and the squire, went to Has's father, and told him - the naughty thing Has had done, Has's father was not pleased, he had told Has to be very careful. Now the father had no option but to cane poor Has.

THE END.
 
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Wouldnt you rather have a better civilian leader instead of Army ruling the country?


Give it a rest , foxbat ....

We Pakistanis love our Army. Let me explain to you Indians why we Pakistanis love our Army and why we prefer our Army over our Lowlife Politicians.

It is because in their hearts every Pakistani considers himself / herself a WARRIOR. That is why we have this trust and camaraderie with the Pak Army.

Capische ?
 
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Heads may role on Zardari’s letter issue

Islamabad: President Asif Ali Zardari has assured Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani that there was nothing more than fiction in the story of his alleged letter to Mike Mullen.

The President gave these assurances to the Army Chief in presence of Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani during a crucial troika meeting at the Presidency on Wednesday.

“I have already summoned Hussain Haqqani (Pakistan Ambassador in US), and the situation would get clear as soon as he arrives,” well-placed sources quoted the President as telling to the Army Chief. According to the sources, the army leadership was uneasy over the news that claimed President Zardari wrote a letter to former US Admiral Mike Mullen seeking support to rein in army and ISI.

“The army leadership reportedly believes that claims may be true,” the sources told Online. That is why the army chief called on President Zardari twice in 24 hours,” the sources maintained.

The sources were of the view that the reports claiming Zardari’s letter to the US Admiral against his own army and ISI was reason for services chiefs missing in the reception in honour of visiting Turkmen President.

The sources were of the view that the government may tend to make Haqqani as scapegoat to appease the injured feelings of the military leadership that felt hurt even if the story was untrue. Certain analysts were describing tricky situation between the ruling PPP and the military establishment as the precursor to a greater change.

Earlier, a handout issued on the troika meeting stated that the Prime Minister discussed the current security situation in the country with the President while Chief Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani was also present during the meeting

The Prime Minister, who met the President at Aiwan-e-Sadr, also apprised him of the government performance, it added.

After the meeting, the President also hosted a dinner for Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani and Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani.

ONLINE - International News Network
 
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WASHINGTON: Former Chairman US Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Mike Mullen has acknowledged that he received the Ijaz memo but he never paid any attention to it and took no follow up, Mullen's spokesman said.

Mullen's spokesman John Kirby said, "Neither the contents of the memo nor the proof of its existence altered or affected in any way the manner in which Adm. Mullen conducted himself in his relationship with Gen. Kayani and the Pakistani government," Kirby said.

"He did not find it at all credible and took no note of it," Kirby added.

Mullen confirms existence of secret memo - GEO.tv
 
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Wouldnt you rather have a better civilian leader instead of Army ruling the country?
Zardari, Haqqani and Co. are not 'better civilian leaders'.

If Mansoor Ijaz's claims are in fact true, then the current civilian leadership is baigharat and has sold out Pakistan, and Nawaz Sharif and Co. are no better.

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P Camacho: What is the link to the comments by Ijaz you posted above?
 
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Haqqani has been pretty clearly shown to be a slimeball and traitor - controversy after controversy since he was appointed, anti-Pakistan bastard that he is.

He hasn't traveled back to Pakistan yet despite being summoned - probably sniveling in front of his 'American contacts and Masters' to save his skin.

I'll wager that he won't return to Pakistan at all - he'll either resign or get fired, remain in the US, and badmouth the military and establishment with lies and a smear campaign that will be lapped up by an anti-Pakistan media and 'Think Tank' circuit.
 
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Wouldnt you rather have a better civilian leader instead of Army ruling the country?

Army are Patriotic Pakistanis who deeply care about Pakistan. Their homes, cars, famililes are all in Pakistan and they will even give up their lives for Pakistan.

Zardari and Nawaz Sharif just care about their Swiss Bank accounts, they got all their property in the Middle East and Europe. They dont care what happens to Pakistan. They just care about their wealth.

Imran Khan is different. When he becomes Prime Minister, it will be the best for Pakistan but he doesnt like U.S. policies at all :)
 
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it shows that whether its military rule or such civilian rule, source of power is USA.
 
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Heads may role on Zardari’s letter issue

Islamabad: President Asif Ali Zardari has assured Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani that there was nothing more than fiction in the story of his alleged letter to Mike Mullen.

The President gave these assurances to the Army Chief in presence of Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani during a crucial troika meeting at the Presidency on Wednesday.


ONLINE - International News Network

haha that must've been one hilarous place to be. Zardari trying to calm down the army chief, even puting a mediator in there, shedding crocodile tears and coming up with a sob story of how the letter wasn't written on his direction etc. Anyway, haath kangan ko arsi kiya. Gen. Kiyani wasn't born yesterday, he knows.
And as riviled as H.Haqani is, I can't help but wonder he's become the fall guy in this. Of all his trecheries, the coniving bastard went out for something of not his doing.
 
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This whole episode has sprung three
questions in my mind .
* What is 'treason' ? ... or what else is treason , if this is not.
* Was Gen. Kiyani so naive that after having known the Ambassador's doubtful loyalties portrayed by his earlier antics , He was left as ambassador in the US ?
* That Zardari is a 'living embodiment of fraud' is known , Is our top milirary leadership 'fit' to serve the security interests of the country ?
 
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Haqqani offers to resign; Mullen confirms existence of secret memo
By Reuters
Published: November 17, 2011

Pakistan's ambassador to US resigns after reports that Zardari asked Washington to help stave off an army takeover. PHOTO: AFP/FILE
WASHINGTON: Pakistan’s ambassador to Washington has offered to resign after reports that his boss, President Asif Ali Zardari, asked Washington for help to stave off a military takeover.
A Pakistani businessman alleged in a column in the Financial Times last month that a senior Pakistani diplomat asked for assistance in getting a message from Zardari to Admiral Mike Mullen, at the time chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff.
The author, Mansoor Ijaz, alleged that Zardari feared a military takeover following the US raid that killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan in May and brought unprecedented public scrutiny on Pakistani leaders.
Events in the months following the bin Laden raid have underscored the sharp tensions between Pakistan’s weak civilian government, headed by Zardari, and its military leadership, headed by General Ashfaq Kayani.
“I serve at the pleasure of the president of Pakistan and the prime minster of Pakistan. And I have communicated my willingness to resign or participate in any inquiry that brings to an end the vilification against the democratic government of Pakistan currently being undertaken by some elements in the country,” said Husain Haqqani, a former journalist who has been Pakistan’s ambassador to Washington since 2008.
There has been speculation in the Pakistani media that Haqqani had been involved in the conception or communicating of the memo.
Officials in the Pakistani government were not immediately available to say whether Haqqani’s offer had been accepted.
“I have not been named so far as having done anything wrong by anyone except through innuendo. No memo of the kind being discussed in the media was drafted or delivered by me,” Haqqani said.
“I should like to add that since I was appointed ambassador in 2008, some people have consistently vilified me as having been involved in undermining the Pakistani armed forces. Which I have never done.”
Asked about the memo referred to in the Financial Times column, Captain John Kirby, who was Mullen’s spokesman until the admiral stepped down earlier this year, said Mullen initially had no recollection of such a memo but was later able to track it down.
“Neither the contents of the memo nor the proof of its existence altered or affected in any way the manner in which Adm. Mullen conducted himself in his relationship with Gen. Kayani and the Pakistani government,” Kirby said. “He did not find it at all credible and took no note of it.”
He gave no further details.

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Gen Kiyani met with Zardari & Gillani yesterday and recalling/resignation are the result of that meeting... i wonder what else gen said to these idiots....
 
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Memorandum To Explode!

The Zardari- Mullen- Obama memo controversy continues to emit dense smoke as the fire below seems to rage with greater fury. Mansoor Ijaz’s most recent revelations of the transcripts of communication exchanges (Black Berry messages/tel calls) indicate that the memo was undoubtedly formulated and edited with help of a senior Pakistani diplomat/ official and approved allegedly by the ‘highest political authority in Pakistan’. Admiral Mike Mullen received the memo on May10 around 1400 hours from a source “whom he (Mullen) trusted and who (the source) also trusted Mansoor Ijaz”.

In his lengthy rejoinders reported in the ‘The News’ on October 31 and November 11, Mansoor Ijaz repeatedly threatened to reveal the ‘highly sensitive content’ of the memo stating, “the facts I have are irrefutable, the evidence is crystal clear.” But what may give sleepless nights to other ‘memo’ actors was Mansoor’s remark that “offers made were very much congruent with American objectives in the region”.

The memo’s hair raising contents already revealed in Mansoor Ijaz’s explosive October 10 article in UK’s Financial Times are enough to make matters difficult for Mr Zardari who ‘needed an American fist on his Army Chief’s desk to end any misguided notions of a coup – and fast’ after the Abbottabad debacle.

The quid pro quo as reported included dismantling the ‘S’( counter terrorism) Wing of ISI and bringing in a new security team (implying removal of COAS/DGISI) that would end ISI’s relations with the Haqqani network and Taliban. The very thought of a President who is also the Supreme Commander of Armed forces, acting against his own national security interests is unbelievable and frightening, too.

The pieces can be put together. While the country including its security establishment struggled to cope with the psychological impact of the May 02 Abbottabad strike, was our top leadership trying to covertly strike a deal with those who had blatantly violated Pakistan’s sovereignty? Was the bogey of a military coup being raised to consolidate and secure their own power agenda?

The American fist came down real hard on Pakistan’s security institutions which clearly went on the defensive. Pakistanis were shocked by the venomous propaganda unleashed by the American / British media through wave of articles and reports against the Army/ ISI. Themes like the Army/ ISI being incapable of safeguarding the nuclear and strategic assets, the danger of their takeover by Islamists within the Army and possibility of a ‘Colonels’ coup’ suddenly became the talk of the foreign media.

Strangely enough, no one from the American administration has denied the memo’s existence. When asked to comment on this matter during her recent Islamabad visit, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was evasive and termed it as a matter between two Presidents.

Even Mike Mullen’s spokesman commented in a roundabout manner. He stated, “I cannot say definitively that the correspondence did not come from him (Mansoor Ijaz ).” Mansoor claims he had proof that Mike Mullen acknowledged the receipt of the memo from their common friend.

I was present in Imran Khan’s historic Minar –e- Pakistan public meeting, when he bowled that unbeatable in- swinger to President Zardari about the secret SOS to President Obama. Imran emphatically mentioned our Washington Ambassador Hussain Haqqani as that ‘senior Pakistani diplomat’ who was instrumental in coordinating the memo affair.

Haqqani’s immediate denial failed to make an impact since his credibility rating was obviously no way near that of Imran Khan. In reply to Kamran Khan’s blunt question live on GEO TV few days later, whether the ‘ senior diplomat’ was indeed Hussain Haqqani, the wily Mansoor Ijaz declined to comment. Why would Mansoor not give a clean chit to Haqqani?

Will Mansoor Ijaz’s offer of a deal apparently directed towards Mr Zardari and co. to “stop telling lies about me and I might just stop telling the truth about you”, really work? Is the Presidency desperate to prevent further memo leaks? Islamabad would probably go to any extreme even if it meant striking a deal with Mansoor Ijaz or pleading to their American friends to ask this US citizen to exercise restraint. But is it too late for damage control? Denials by the Foreign Office as well as the Presidency that tried to discredit and tarnish Mansoor Ijaz’s credibility may have caused the latter’s stinging response.

Mansoor Ijaz had earlier expressed his willingness to provide on request, all details in closed door briefings to the ‘official bodies/organs of Pakistan government’ conducting an investigation and even the Supreme Court, to present the truth, which in his words, ‘will not be easy for anyone to swallow’. Should Mansoor Ijaz be summoned by the Parliamentary Committee on Defence/national security? Is this not a perfect Suo Moto Case for Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry?

Mansoor Ijaz’s sensational disclosures in Sana Buchan’s November 13 ‘Lekin’ talk show on GEO, that a Pakistani Government representative had verified the available data and forensic evidence on the subject, should ring alarm bills on Islamabad hill. Is the memo already in safe custody of some state organ in Pakistan?

For our security/intelligence setups, this is too grave a matter to be brushed aside. The concerned agencies must be carrying out their independent investigation. Is the security establishment’s intriguing silence over this issue a portent of an approaching storm?

Pakistanis anxiously await the details of other promises made in the memo as well as confirmation of the identity of that ‘senior diplomat’. The repercussion may be unimaginable, should these ‘commitments’ relate negatively to our nuclear program or the armed forces or other vital interests are deemed to be compromised.

The memo issue not only has serious implications for our national security but the moral dimension is even significant. Mr Zardari or the ‘senior diplomat’ would be discharging their national obligation by presenting the truth, before the memo hits the media, a dreadful scenario that may just be round the corner.

With fingers pointing towards our Ambassador in Washington, he has reportedly been summoned to Islamabad to explain his position. Will he be made the scapegoat? Does Mansoor Ijaz still control the timing of the memo’s release? Is the ‘memo’ bomb about to explode?

Memorandum To Explode! | PKKH.tv

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Is Ambassador Haqqani history?

Like a cat with nine lives Mr. Hussain Haqqani has been able to withstand shouts to fire him. He is dervisively called the “US Ambassador to Pakistan” and is probaby the most reviled Ambassador that has ever served the Pakistani government. He has however been able to wither the storms that face him. The press has written many obitourareis for him, but he still sits in the Pakistani Embassy. Well not this week atleast. This week, he has been summoned back to Islamabad for writing a letter to Admiral Mullen asking him to weigh in on the Pakistani Army. This brings us to Mr. Manzur Ijaz, who is also another unsavory character that comes out of the gutter every time there is a scandal. Apparently Mr. Mansoor Ijaz is said to have delivered a letter to Mike Mullen.

Pakistanis are appaled that Islamabad’s envoy would do such a thing. The writings of Mr. Haqqani and Mr. Ijaz leave no doubt that this is their mentality–run to America to seek protection from the big bad wolves in Pakistan. There are calls that the president should fire Haqqani and appoint a national security advisor for coordination. This new post would be similar to the National Security Advisor’s post in the US.

On the 10th of October of this year, Mr Ijaz claimed that President Zardari had sought Washington’s help in asking for the removal of the Army and ISI chiefs and had assured the Obama administration that he would cut all ties to militant groups if it assisted him in this regard. A meeting with a visiting congressman did seem to indicate words to this affect. Some US newspapers had quoted Mr. Zardari as calling the haqqanis a “pit of sankes” and that he wanted to wipe them out. Press reports indicate, and apparently the Pakistani Embassy confirm this– that the govt has summoned Husain Haqqani for a briefing on Pak-US relations.

Whether Mr. Haqqani stays or goes is a matter of time. He is disliked by many and loved by few. If he is dismissed he will go back to teach at Boston University and he will continue to spew venom against the Pakistani state–as he used to before he became ambassador.

He should never have been hired, and should have been fires yesterday!

Is Ambassador Haqqani history? | PKKH.tv
 
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Army is nationalist. They would rather choose to die than having to rank India as the most favoured nation... Apart from Musharraf reign, others have been successful as leaders. Take Ayub Khan as an example. He did so much for this country. I think you guys can tell i am fan of him--- cuz of my avatar.
 
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