Secondary education A LONG WAY TO GO.

[Nilgiri]

Please see the thread where the BD finance minister has stated that budget spending as percentage of GDP will be over 21-22% next fiscal, and will move into the 23-24% range the fiscal after.

Don't care about anything coming from any minister, especially a BAL one. BAL was caught lying about BD education figures right in this forum on one of its propaganda pamphlets.

I will only trust non-BD sources regarding its final figures for education and general govt activities...given the horrendous level of corruption, lack of institution capability and the stagnant nature of both of these:

http://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016

BD 2012 Score = 26
BD 2016 score = 26 (Change of 0) Rank of 145/176

So we are back to 13.8% as the total govt/GDP spending ratio:

http://www.heritage.org/index/explore?view=by-variables

A drop of 2.2% from its peak in 2014 for BD. Looks like a pretty terrible govt at work as usual.

Whats worse is education spending as % of GDP continues to just fluctuate around 2% according to UNESCO.

If it is to increase, I will have to see it registered as such at UNESCO, not from mouthpiece of one of the most corrupt, worthless govts in the world.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Don't care about anything coming from any minister, especially a BAL one. BAL was caught lying about BD education figures right in this forum on one of its propaganda pamphlets.

How dared to say that,painting BAL in bad light is sin,they drew Independence out bloody jaws of **** feudals when Indians were smoking weed,how dare you say that minister of BAL can lie.....oh I know.....You are a Pakistani pretending to be an Indian....
In serious notes,situation at grass root in BD hasn't changed.

 

[UKBengali]

Don't care about anything coming from any minister, especially a BAL one. BAL was caught lying about BD education figures right in this forum on one of its propaganda pamphlets.

I will only trust non-BD sources regarding its final figures for education and general govt activities...given the horrendous level of corruption, lack of institution capability and the stagnant nature of both of these:

http://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016

BD 2012 Score = 26
BD 2016 score = 26 (Change of 0) Rank of 145/176

So we are back to 13.8% as the total govt/GDP spending ratio:

http://www.heritage.org/index/explore?view=by-variables

A drop of 2.2% from its peak in 2014 for BD. Looks like a pretty terrible govt at work as usual.

Whats worse is education spending as % of GDP continues to just fluctuate around 2% according to UNESCO.

If it is to increase, I will have to see it registered as such at UNESCO, not from mouthpiece of one of the most corrupt, worthless govts in the world.

Earth to Nilgiri, anyone present?

Stop being such a douchebag as the BD government cannot lie about the budget and get away with it.

Check out below:

http://www.observerbd.com/details.php?id=35745

ADB accepted BD government claim of 7.1% GDP growth in 2015-2016 fiscal.

As BD gets richer, it will naturally get easier to collect taxes and so even though it wont get up to Indian standard of spending 28% of GDP on the budget, 23-24% by end of decade is realistic.

You can be sure that a lot of this extra money will be spent on areas like education and infrastructure to both sustain and speed up economic growth going into the future

 

[bd_4_ever]

The tragictory is upward so it is good. It only takes 2 generation to achieve universal education as had been demonstrated by Russia and china.

BD has a long way to go, but it is in the right track. Industrialisation and education goes hands in hand. It's happening. BD spends more of its limited resources in education then our neighbours but it is no where near world standards. BD government makes education a primary priority so I think BD in 2030 will be in materially different position to what it is now.

That's a precise point. Our education spending has been upwards since last few budgets but nowhere near global standard. As per own observation, the issue lies in the structure and curriculum. Apart from leading institutions, I dont think others provide much to complement the industrialization that's gradually racking up. As a result of which, many educated graduates dont find jobs and hence, move out.

Attempting to provide primary education to everyone is commendable, but they also need to revamp the system at higher educational levels. That will not only catalyze local growth but also supply more skilled employees for global market.

 

[Nilgiri]

Earth to Nilgiri, anyone present?

Stop being such a douchebag as the BD government cannot lie about the budget and get away with it.

Check out below:

http://www.observerbd.com/details.php?id=35745

ADB accepted BD government claim of 7.1% GDP growth in 2015-2016 fiscal.

As BD gets richer, it will naturally get easier to collect taxes and so even though it wont get up to Indian standard of spending 28% of GDP on the budget, 23-24% by end of decade is realistic.

You can be sure that a lot of this extra money will be spent on areas like education and infrastructure to both sustain and speed up economic growth going into the future

When a 3rd party lists the spending ratio as whatever % claimed by some BAL minister, I will accept it then.

Latest figure listed is 13.8% as posted yet again now:

http://www.heritage.org/index/explore?view=by-variables

Now if its varying set of definitions that is the main reason for such disparity (rather than BAL notorious blabbermouthing tall claims), thats fine....but I stick to the international metric with common standards for all.

So BD is at 13.8% of GDP for spending, Pakistan is at 19.8% and India at 27.9% under apples for apples, oranges for oranges.

How dared to say that,painting BAL in bad light is sin,they drew Independence out bloody jaws of **** feudals when Indians were smoking weed,how dare you say that minister of BAL can lie.....oh I know.....You are a Pakistani pretending to be an Indian....
In serious notes,situation at grass root in BD hasn't changed.

Apparently it has gotten so bad that PAkistanis saying the same thing as I are actually sanghi/bhakt false flaggers:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/who-was-responsible-for-1971.478453/page-6#post-9219064

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/who-was-responsible-for-1971.478453/page-7#post-9221285

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...-1971-genocide-pm.479414/page-14#post-9248025

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...-1971-genocide-pm.479414/page-13#post-9246239

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...-1971-genocide-pm.479414/page-12#post-9243536

 

[UKBengali]

When a 3rd party lists the spending ratio as whatever % claimed by some BAL minister, I will accept it then.

Latest figure listed is 13.8% as posted yet again now:

http://www.heritage.org/index/explore?view=by-variables

IMF claims 15.8% for 2017:

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/f...=1&pr1.x=65&pr1.y=6&c=513&s=GGX_NGDP&grp=0&a=

You are such a retard.

 

[Nilgiri]

IMF claims 15.8% for 2017:

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/f...=1&pr1.x=65&pr1.y=6&c=513&s=GGX_NGDP&grp=0&a=

You are such a retard.

OK lets follow the IMF then ....like I said keep to one 3rd party sources definition and standards when comparing from country to country. Don't you notice how the green cells are estimates too? Heritage foundation probably just used the latest year that was not an estimate by IMF

Since you posted the IMF, doesn't it contradict severely you and your minister claim of 21%+ in the "next fiscal"?

Hovering under 17% till 2021 and beyond....ouch!

Seeing how BD has seen fits and starts in its recent history, I don't blame them:

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/f...y&ds=.&br=1&c=513,564,534&s=GGX_NGDP&grp=0&a=

But its going to be all different this time right?

" BD finance minister has stated that budget spending as percentage of GDP will be over 21-22% next fiscal, and will move into the 23-24% range the fiscal after."

BBS/BAL definition/math STRONK! IMF so wrong!!!!

 

[SajjLad]

Can we stop the dick-measuring-contest this thread has become? All our countries aren't quite measuring up when you look globally.

Anyways besides that, I'd like to see a greater investment in vocational education starting from secondary school. The current system is just not suited to the modern economy, it only suits those who seek white collar jobs (the doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc), which in reality, is only the cream of the crop. What about the rest of our population? If they could learn skills in professional trades (the plumbers, electricians, IT technicians) in would improve our work force significantly in regards to expatriat remtitances (which have unfortunately become a major part of our economy). Instead of sending out manual labourers to live in horrific conditions, perhaps we could start sending skilled and semi-skilled professionals.

 

[bd_4_ever]

Can we stop the dick-measuring-contest this thread has become? All our countries aren't quite measuring up when you look globally.

Welcome to the forum! If you have lurked around enough, you will soon realize almost every thread turns into a comparison fest. Additionally, you would also identify the individuals who catalyze that as well soon.

Anyways besides that, I'd like to see a greater investment in vocational education starting from secondary school. The current system is just not suited to the modern economy, it only suits those who seek white collar jobs (the doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc), which in reality, is only the cream of the crop. What about the rest of our population? If they could learn skills in professional trades (the plumbers, electricians, IT technicians) in would improve our work force significantly in regards to expatriat remtitances (which have unfortunately become a major part of our economy). Instead of sending out manual labourers to live in horrific conditions, perhaps we could start sending skilled and semi-skilled professionals.

These suggestion are well valid but the issue is culture, before anything else. If you see the mindset of our people, any non-white collar jobs are frowned upon.. and if you are a guy, good luck getting heed in the marriage market!

 

[SajjLad]

Welcome to the forum! If you have lurked around enough, you will soon realize almost every thread turns into a comparison fest. Additionally, you would also identify the individuals who catalyze that as well soon.



These suggestion are well valid but the issue is culture, before anything else. If you see the mindset of our people, any non-white collar jobs are frowned upon.. and if you are a guy, good luck getting heed in the marriage market!

Thank you, I have been lurking for a while so I do get the gist of the forums, but I thought to join anyway there's always some decent discussion underneath the varioue one-up-manship.

Of course, I never said any of those things would be easy, but if I could advise the Bangladesh education policy, that would be what I would say. But my faith isn't particularly with the government or the public sector in general, if change comes I suspect it will be the work of the NGOs, who have done a massive service to Bangladesh in various aspects of life, why not include education in that too?