season 2016-2017: Bangladesh Defence & paramilitary-security budget worth approx $5.503 billion USD

[Michael Corleone]

@Nilgiri you should look at the awe on their faces when they visit a modern city like Kolkata! The only city Bangladesh has, Dhaka, is the world's 2nd least liveable city...it's only a little better than a war torn Syrian city.

Kolkata and Dhaka are both shit. What is nicest state in India is Kerala! That's a beauty. Exactly like my village... Bikrampur

 

[Nabil365]

Comparing Dhaka with a Somalia like state called Kolkata is a disgrace to us Bangladeshis.

 

[bongbang]

If Bangladesh's weapons are against India, then it's an even bigger waste, we are not attacking Bangladesh for the sheer futility of such an exercise, and Bangladesh can't dare, and for what?

Besides, it's better not to sit in the exam if you are ill-prepared and destined to fail miserably, Bangladeshi military preparedness against India is just that, it's better not to have it at all.

Two more reason to accept my proposal.

Look, Bangladeshis are too much nationalist. Dont tell what to do. Bangladesh is designed as people's army. India wont dare to attack BD. A street kid with stones will turn freedom fighter to be martyr. Comprising of Army (active+reserve), navy, air force, BGB, police, bncc, Ansar-vdp this is huge force. Plus patriotic non gov arms cadres also have huge stocks. And nobody wont like to turn other BD Muslims into Mujahid mode. France Germany UK all shares good relations but they maintain their army as well, they also know none of them going to attack each other. Its pride, wont get through tailless fox's head. BD isnt Bhutan. We can work jointly but wont turn down weapons. Refrain from trolling.

 

[Nilgiri]

Comparing Dhaka with a Somalia like state called Kolkata is a disgrace to us Bangladeshis.

So I guess Somalia is also much richer than Dhaka and Bangladesh....that "basket case" as Henry Kissinger put it.

Yes tell your elite to stop coming to Kolkata then for all their shopping. See if they stop to even listen to you

Has anyone even really heard of Dhaka outside of Bangladesh? Has anyone really heard of Bangladesh to begin with? How many Bangladeshis get called as Indian and refuse/are reluctant to correct (a la Indian restaurant phenomenon)?

You ride off India's coattails worldwide....after all India was instrumental in your creation in the current political form.

We should look up the terms of trade for manufacturing and launching satellites to underwear fabrication.

It explains why one of our middle/lagging city and state is ahead of your best city and country as a whole economically.

Look, Bangladeshis are too much nationalist. Dont tell what to do. Bangladesh is designed as people's army. India wont dare to attack BD. A street kid with stones will turn freedom fighter to be martyr. Comprising of Army (active+reserve), navy, air force, BGB, police, bncc, Ansar-vdp this is huge force. Plus patriotic non gov arms cadres also have huge stocks. And nobody wont like to turn other BD Muslims into Mujahid mode. France Germany UK all shares good relations but they maintain their army as well, they also know none of them going to attack each other. Its pride, wont get through tailless fox's head. BD isnt Bhutan. We can work jointly but wont turn down weapons. Refrain from trolling.

Bangladesh has near 0 military deterrence available w.r.t India....only option is good relations. If we really need to (and its unliked since we are setting up BAL to keep power for a good long time yet), we will go through your "military" (if you can call it that) like a hot knife through butter....make no mistake about that.

Better off focusing on Burma and making sure they dont thrash your border guards and return them without any apology like the last time. Focus on the important direct problems first.

 

[bongbang]

Bangladesh has near 0 military deterrence available w.r.t India....only option is good relations. If we really need to (and its unliked since we are setting up BAL to keep power for a good long time yet), we will go through your "military" (if you can call it that) like a hot knife through butter....make no mistake about that.

Better off focusing on Burma and making sure they dont thrash your border guards and return them without any apology like the last time. Focus on the important direct problems first.

Stop acting like mucho internet retard. Did I reply you?

 

[UKBengali]

So I guess Somalia is also much richer than Dhaka and Bangladesh....that "basket case" as Henry Kissinger put it.

Yes tell your elite to stop coming to Kolkata then for all their shopping. See if they stop to even listen to you

Has anyone even really heard of Dhaka outside of Bangladesh? Has anyone really heard of Bangladesh to begin with? How many Bangladeshis get called as Indian and refuse/are reluctant to correct (a la Indian restaurant phenomenon)?

You ride off India's coattails worldwide....after all India was instrumental in your creation in the current political form.

We should look up the terms of trade for manufacturing and launching satellites to underwear fabrication.

It explains why one of our middle/lagging city and state is ahead of your best city and country as a whole economically.

For the 2014-2015 financial year, BD GDP/capita was at 1300 US dollars compared to 1200 dollars for West Bengal.

Now this is taking into account that BD gained it's independence in 1971, and West Bengal become part of Indian Union in 1947.

BD will eventually take over the economy of both W Bengal and the NE states.

 

[Nilgiri]

For the 2014-2015 financial year, BD GDP/capita was at 1300 US dollars compared to 1200 dollars for West Bengal.

OK lets compare 2014/15 FY (i.e year 2014 in IMF parlance):

Nominal GDP per capita for Bangladesh was 1161 (NOT 1300)

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft...&ds=.&br=1&c=513,534&s=NGDPDPC,PPPPC&grp=0&a=

Nominal GDP per capita for West Bengal:

One source gives as 120 billion USD, another as 138 Billion USD given exchange rate fluctuation throughout the year. Both agree that GSDP of West Bengal in 2014/15 FY was 800,000 crore INR (published by Indian govt data for that fiscal year). Average exchange rate in 2014/15 was about 61.1 INR per USD. You can verify here:

http://www.x-rates.com/average/?from=USD&to=INR&amount=1&year=2014

So 800,000 crore divide by 61.1 = 130.858 billion USD.

Population of West Bengal in 2014 was around 94 million (using projection of 1.1% population growth rate from 2011 population of 91 million...for reference yearly population growth rate from 2001 to 2011 in WB was around 1.3% p.a).

Nominal GDP per capita in WB for 2014 is thus approx: 130858/94 = 1392 USD

Now which is bigger? 1161 or 1392?

In PPP terms, assuming WB has same multiplier as India in 2014 (around 3.6), PPP GDP per capita is about 5011 USD.

Bangladesh PPP GDP per capita for 2014 is 3390 USD.

So WB is 20% higher in nominal USD terms (about 3 years ahead) and about 48% higher in PPP terms (about 6 years ahead) compared to Bangladesh (According to IMF, since Doyalbaba will start his diatribe if I don't include this note).

I have provided the sources to back my statements unlike what you just did. I would expect you to do the same next time. Then we can look at the quality of the sources (IMF and Indian govt versus whatever you are quoting from).

Stop acting like mucho internet retard. Did I reply you?

You addressed India in "India wont dare to attack Bangladesh". If you provide the conditions and rationale for us, we certainly will and it will end only one way...complete destruction and surrender of bangladesh military in a very short time span (aforementioned 0 deterrence provided by Bangladesh military).

So dont provide the conditions and rationale for that to happen and everything is good. You are on the correct path now, keep it going. BAL in power is a very safe guarantee of it being just an internet board talk and nothing more.

 

[dray]

Look, Bangladeshis are too much nationalist. Dont tell what to do. Bangladesh is designed as people's army. India wont dare to attack BD. A street kid with stones will turn freedom fighter to be martyr. Comprising of Army (active+reserve), navy, air force, BGB, police, bncc, Ansar-vdp this is huge force. Plus patriotic non gov arms cadres also have huge stocks. And nobody wont like to turn other BD Muslims into Mujahid mode. France Germany UK all shares good relations but they maintain their army as well, they also know none of them going to attack each other. Its pride, wont get through tailless fox's head. BD isnt Bhutan. We can work jointly but wont turn down weapons. Refrain from trolling.

You missed the bus buddy, my offer stands withdrawn!

 

[BDforever]

You missed the bus buddy, my offer stands withdrawn!

@Nilgiri , you two .....
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Muri kha

 

[Nabil365]

Pathetic butthurt keep coming to Bangladesh forums...
Haha Kolkata is always gonna be shitty when compared to Dhaka.

 

[UKBengali]

Pathetic butthurt keep coming to Bangladesh forums...
Haha Kolkata is always gonna be shitty when compared to Dhaka.

These Indian Bengali losers are sore that they are not part of BD.

BD's economy will touch digit digit GDP growth by the early 2020s, when all the current major infrastructure projects are complete, and it's infrastructure will start looking like first world standards by 2030. What is happening as regards infrastructure in BD now is nothing compared to what will happen next decade.

@Nilgiri : You really think that PPP multiples for India and BD reflect the cost of living for the average citizen?

Let us compare some food staples in the subcontinent like milk,eggs, rice and onions:

1. Milk India = 0.16 US dollars compared to 0.21 US dollars in BD
2. Eggs India= 0.17 US dollars compared to 0.25 US dollars in BD
3. Rice India = 0.07 US dollars compared to 0.06 US dollars in BD
4. Onions India = 0.05 US dollars compared to 0.06 US dollars in BD

As you can see the two most important stables like rice and onions are very similar prices in BD and India. Yes, other important stables like milk and eggs are a around 20-30% more expensive in BD but this does not justify the large gap in PPP multiplier between BD and India that is touted.

As has already been mentioned, these Western PPP figures also includes things like cars and electronic items which are not currently a major figure in the consumption habits of either country.

After all, if India has so much more higher PPP per capita than BD, then at least we would not expect BD citizens to live 3-4 years longer on average than Indians.

 

[Nilgiri]

You really think that PPP multiples for India and BD reflect the cost of living for the average citizen?

Let us compare some food staples in the subcontinent like milk,eggs, rice and onions:

1. Milk India = 0.16 US dollars compared to 0.21 US dollars in BD
2. Eggs India= 0.17 US dollars compared to 0.25 US dollars in BD
3. Rice India = 0.07 US dollars compared to 0.06 US dollars in BD
4. Onions India = 0.05 US dollars compared to 0.06 US dollars in BD

As you can see the two most important stables like rice and onions are very similar prices in BD and India. Yes, other important stables like milk and eggs are a around 20-30% more expensive in BD but this does not justify the large gap in PPP multiplier between BD and India that is touted.

As has already been mentioned, these Western PPP figures also includes things like cars and electronic items which are not currently a major figure in the consumption habits of either country.

After all, if India has so much more higher PPP per capita than BD, then at least we would not expect BD citizens to live 3-4 years longer on average than Indians.

Please submit your analysis to the ICP program of IMF (and maybe start with complaining to your own B'desh bureau of statistics to say something). You obviously know a lot more than they do.

I have already said its the land price caused by population density that is the major factor. That just reflects in various commodities later...but taking a snapshot of them is not going to provide the full picture. What is your source anyway?

 

[UKBengali]

Please submit your analysis to the ICP program of IMF (and maybe start with complaining to your own B'desh bureau of statistics to say something). You obviously know a lot more than they do.

I have already said its the land price caused by population density that is the major factor. That just reflects in various commodities later...but taking a snapshot of them is not going to provide the full picture. What is your source anyway?

http://www.numbeo.com/food-prices/country_result.jsp?country=Bangladesh
& http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=India


Property prices are actually cheaper compared to salary in BD than in India as per below:

http://www.numbeo.com/property-investment/rankings_by_country.jsp with Bangladesh at ratio of nearly 9
and India at nearly 10 price to income ratio.

So the two major components of the cost of living to the average BD and Indian citizen end up roughly the same cost, then why the massive difference in PPP multiplier? Only logical explanation is that stuff like cars and electronics such as TVs are much lower in India than in BD. This makes sense for developed countries as these items are an integral part of the consumption habits in rich countries but they are not applicable to S Asia.

Again, how on earth can BD citizens live 3-4 years longer than Indian citizens and have a standard of living 40% lower? It makes no sense even when you take into account the Indian average being taken down by the BIMARU states.

 

[dray]

Please submit your analysis to the ICP program of IMF (and maybe start with complaining to your own B'desh bureau of statistics to say something). You obviously know a lot more than they do.

I have already said its the land price caused by population density that is the major factor. That just reflects in various commodities later...but taking a snapshot of them is not going to provide the full picture. What is your source anyway?

Bangladesh doesn't have a middle class, they only have a small number of rich and a huge number of poor (that explains their 2 per 1000 personal car). So the handful of rich with internet connections cook up these stories of good life in Bangladesh, but the voiceless majority of poor know the truth.

 

[Nilgiri]

Property prices are actually cheaper compared to salary in BD than in India as per below:

I'm not talking property prices (these will be more pricey in Indian cities and suburbs for sure). I'm talking the price of land to build large industry* and large scale manufacturing** outside the cities. Almost every bit of Bangladesh is inhabited densely except for where the terrain is not flat (CHT etc). There is no cheap more "available" land to buy like say between Bombay and Pune....or between TN and Bangalore or the satellite towns of Delhi that does not impact tens of thousands of people per acquisition (and this reflects in the combined cost of acquiring the land and not just the land price by itself). You can see the results of this basic difference in the range and depth of goods and services India produces compared to Bangladesh.


*/** it is the products made by such activities that diminsh the cost of logistics, transport and energy which feed into helping a country's external account + internal logistical efficiency which lead to the PPP multiplier. The exposure of this gap over time to external markets is what "operationalises" the PPP into nominal.

Bangladesh doesn't have a middle class, they only have a small number of rich and a huge number of poor (that explains their 2 per 1000 personal car). So the handful of rich with internet connections cook up these stories of good life in Bangladesh, but the voiceless majority of poor know the truth.

Yes their middle class is small but growing. It will take 10 or so years for them to mature more so we can gauge the size and dynamic. Now its still too early to tell clearly. There just isn't the same level of analysis/study that many banks and organisations do for India.

Private transport per person is one indicator for sure. But also electricity consumption, energy consumption, steel consumption, appliance consumption you name it.