School van targeted by TTP in Swat

[ahaider97]

Of course, although it’s not but my post will seem like propaganda since I’m not making scapegoat of governments or leaders or military but pointing out the fact that public lost its power and integrity by itself and such a bitter truth is not what media feeds through Twitter or YouTube or tv channels because that won’t sell.

Keep blaming the government and keep suffering, that’s how weak the public is and that’s how religion is being used in different forms unfortunately to cause divisions.

We are not weak, but you should keep praying, that in the defense of those you keep writing essays, do no find that out. Weak is the one who needs your essays, not us.

Pakistan is our home, not a circus, for anyone to enjoy from outside and then blame us for not lighting more things on fire.

 

[TheSolution]

We are not weak, but you should keep praying, that in the defense of those you keep writing essays, do no find that out. Weak is the one who needs your essays, not us.

Pakistan is our home, not a circus, for anyone to enjoy from outside and then blame us for not lighting more things on fire.

Bro he's literally right, it's a two-dimensional issue

The two events are not mutually exclusive

 

[ahaider97]

Bro he's literally right, it's a two-dimensional issue

The two events are not mutually exclusive

Yet he directs his propaganda against the weak side, the poor people, not those who have the actual power to change things. We are already down and he comes up with his condescending attacks on us and not just that he defends the approach of the ones with power. He's not on the people's side, that's for sure.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Yet he directs his propaganda against the weak side, the poor people, not those who have the actual power to change things. We are already down and he comes up with his condescending attacks on us and not just that he defends the approach of the ones with power. He's not on the people's side, that's for sure.

Agreed.

@ahaider97

His argument is...

Hum ral mil ke app ghareeb aur miskeen logon ki baja re hain, aur kasoor apka he...

Full time badmashi...

 

[ahaider97]

Hum ral mil ke app ghareeb aur miskeen logon ki baja re hain, aur kasoor apka he...

You know I'm a cynical type, but reading such propaganda against a people who are drowned in floods, crushed by inflation, and have a govt imposed on them, at gunpoint, of convicted criminals and absconders, pissed even me off.

 

[Signalian]

We are not weak, but you should keep praying, that in the defense of those you keep writing essays, do no find that out. Weak is the one who needs your essays, not us.

Pakistan is our home, not a circus, for anyone to enjoy from outside and then blame us for not lighting more things on fire.

So whose responsibile for foreign and local counter terrorism?

Should KP hire a new military and air force to bomb cross boarder in Afghanistan

What about RPG and armoured vechiles should it procure it?

What about USA. Should it send it NYPD to Afghanistan to counter alqeda and Taliban?

Army has no coherent plan..if it has one it's not sharing it (WHICH IS EQUALLY, INFACT MORE IMPORTANT TO CALM THE PUBLIC)

Military operation is not the only solution. If you look at it this way, then military operations in KPK or Baluchistan will never end.

India and Pakistan can work together.

In this scenario, its highly unlikely that working together will yield any results.

 

[doorstar]

Pakistan is our home, not a circus, for anyone to enjoy from outside and then blame us for not lighting more things on fire.

but I gathered (from your posts) that your ultimate loyalty was with Iran.

 

[ahaider97]

but I gathered (from your posts) that your ultimate loyalty was with Iran.

what's the point?

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[Signalian]

What else is there?

The option of political steps by Govt as well as officials in KPK to contain this menace of TTP.

On PDF, everyone wants to be an expert of speculation and verdicts. There are three points which should be discussed as they are a reality are:

1. Kidnapping of Police officer, senior minister, killing of driver for Malala attack anniversary, threats to PMLN member KPK assembly, killing of JUI local leader.

2. The recent peaceful protest organized by leaders from political parties of SUP, Jei, ANP, MAP, NDM, PTM in which public also rallied.

3. Successful negotiations with local administration after a sit-in in which the local body said jirga will be informed and compensation to victim family.

 

[Crimson Blue]

 

[Maula Jatt]

" Govt spokesperson blames attacks on ‘splinter groups’ opposed to TTP talks.," from dawn

A- They're having talks with TTP without any input from PTI or local provincial government

B-.How did this splinter group manage to come into pakistan - or it's just that they got in with good TTP but now when they're in , they aren't listening

Even an idiot knows that TTP never ever kept it's promise from 90s to ,2000s and now
Rinse and repeat

C- what kinda traitorous deals are y'all signing that no one knows about, where's the civl involvement?

Now when the things are turning hot you're blaming the police and what not - well is the police unilaterally involved in these 10,000th edition of talks with the TTP (who don't hesitate to kill kids- that's beyond terrorism at that point)

If they're not and you're than learn to take the blame for it too

 

[Maula Jatt]

So whose responsibile for foreign and local counter terrorism?

Should KP hire a new military and air force to bomb cross boarder in Afghanistan

What about RPG and armoured vechiles should it procure it?

What about USA. Should it send it NYPD to Afghanistan to counter alqeda and Taliban?

Army has no coherent plan..if it has one it's not sharing it (WHICH IS EQUALLY, INFACT MORE IMPORTANT TO CALM THE PUBLIC)

PEOPLE are angry
they are angry at the government PTI & PDM
they are angry at army as much
People are AFRIAD THEY WILL BE SOLD AGAIN LIKE IT HAPPENED IN 2002 WHEN ARMY SOLD PUSHTOON FOR FEW BILLION DOLLARS BY LETTING INSTABILIYAND DRONES

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Even a poster from swat said unlike nowadays, most people in swat supported TTP in 2000s

When a group as wild as TTP is supported by majority population than some blame should be taken too- not that drones especially by foreigners was the solution but it's not one sided issue

 

[ahaider97]

@B.K.N bhai post q delter kar di? I was about to reply. I had once made similar arguments against a class fellow PTM member, he was pissed off. His friend later told me to be careful with him, he gets angry easy. Dudes engage in anti Punjab propaganda while on scholarships in universities here, then get angry if you show them the mirror.

 

[Crimson Blue]

 

[TheSolution]

So whose responsibile for foreign and local counter terrorism?

Should KP hire a new military and air force to bomb cross boarder in Afghanistan

What about RPG and armoured vechiles should it procure it?

What about USA. Should it send it NYPD to Afghanistan to counter alqeda and Taliban?

Army has no coherent plan..if it has one it's not sharing it (WHICH IS EQUALLY, INFACT MORE IMPORTANT TO CALM THE PUBLIC)

PEOPLE are angry
they are angry at the government PTI & PDM
they are angry at army as much
People are AFRIAD THEY WILL BE SOLD AGAIN LIKE IT HAPPENED IN 2002 WHEN ARMY SOLD PUSHTOON FOR FEW BILLION DOLLARS BY LETTING INSTABILIYAND DRONES

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TTP at one point had support from the locals and opposed army operations, it wasn't until APS they went against it.

The army can only ever succeed in internal insurgencies if it has the support of the people.