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Saudia, Bahrain, UAE & Egypt cut diplomatic ties with Qatar

Of course. Qatar cannot afford to mess with KSA or the GCC.



Your post is correct aside from the Arabized Sudanese. Most Northern Sudanese are in fact pure Arabs (paternally), as modern-day genetics have confirmed and which their dialect confirms, but most of them have intermarried with local Nubians.
Indeed no need of that too ..things will be resolved in couple of days ..mediation already starting through Kuwait ..it happened in 2014 too and get settled ..Qatar can't stand alone in GCC..When once is a part of GCC it can't move into different direction all along ..Further it is not viable be it economical or otherwise to stand for Qatar without GCC support..

Translation... we capitulate...
They don't have other option..Look what have happened to there economy and image in a single night..
 
every body saying same thing and KSA and Party calming to have documented avoidance , I start believing that there is something wrong , Qatar Relation with Pakistan (not NS and Family or corrupt elite) also not that positive ,
Strange world and strange things ............................................. Please only make sure food supplies for Qatari people in Ramadan .......
 
Indeed no need of that too ..things will be resolved in couple of days ..mediation already starting through Kuwait ..it happened in 2014 too and get settled ..Qatar can't stand alone in GCC..When once is a part of GCC it can't move into different direction all along ..Further it is not viable be it economical or otherwise to stand for Qatar without GCC support..


They don't have other option..Look what have happened to there economy and image in a single night..
That's true...
 
Influence.

Let me give you a short historical overview.

In 1995 the most recent past Emir, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani's father, Khalifa bin Hamad al-Thani (who ruled between 1972-1995) was removed in a coup when abroad by his own son in 1995. Some circles are saying that this coup was the work of KSA although there is very little evidence of this.

However the Al-Thani leadership (those few in power among the 1.500 or so Al-Thanis) decided that Qatar, in order not to become a complete Saudi Arabian satellite state, needed to have their own finely defined foreign policy. This would attract publicity, investments and open the country up to the world on a needed scale.

After all they had to spend the money on something as they, back then, were even fewer people than today (200.000) and there is a limit of how many modern cities that you can built within Qatar when you have so few people. That's why there is Doha (in terms of larger cities) and practically nothing else other than smaller cities and villages, which btw are quite beautiful and nice. Qatar is in fact a quite cozy peninsula with some fantastic coastline, mangroves and sand dunes and old, fairly well kept villages, especially those along the shore.

Creating Al-Jazeera in 1996 was a part of that plan. Becoming the most pro-US country in the region another so CENTCOM and 2 US military bases (largest in the region) could be established. This gave Qatar protection as long as they followed the US line. As Sayliyah Army Base (founded in 2000) and Al Ubeid Air Base (founded in 2003). Previously CENTCOM was based in KSA (Prince Sultan Air Base) but after KSA's decision to no longer allow any foreign bases, the Americans had to move elsewhere within the region and Qatar was the perfect fit, especially seeing their policy back then.

Similarly Qatar has tried to cultivate close relations to other Western countries and invested a lot in private firms, property etc. In particular in London where they own a lot. Hosting sports tournaments etc. too and investing in art. For instance the most expensive paintings in the world were bought by the Al-Thani family.

So supporting the MB, post Arab Spring, as that was the only representative (according to many experts) of the masses, was natural especially if other countries in the region did not follow such a policy. Again, Qatar wanted to stick out. Now this short-sighted policy and delusions of grandeur while in reality being a mouse and not a lion, has caught up with Qatar. Especially when the MB project failed and in particular after the increased focus on Islamism in the West and world overall. The recent Riyadh Summit showed this perfectly. I think that Qatar felt isolated so that is why the Emir made that nonsense statement during that cadet graduation where he praised Israel, Hezbollah, Iran and MB simultaneously. It really made no sense but I can see why he would have said so. It's basically a plea of desperation and a message to the US, that Qatar still matters. That's why nothing serious will happen but after this diplomatic raw Qatar will be forced to change their policies. They got 1 chance back in 2013 and 2014 but they did not listen. They will have to now.



House of Saud, Al-Sisi, Morsi or not the brotherhood between Saudi Arabians and Egyptians is unbreakable. There have never been any Egyptian pilots bombing Houthi terrorist cultists in Yemen. We the average people, do not look at the MB as something hostile. So you are wrong there. This is part of the game of thrones that usually takes place everywhere.

Tiran and Sanafir have been returned to KSA as part of the King Salman Causeway/Bridge project.
Do you have a video clip or something where Mr. Thani is praising everyone at the graduation ceremony?
 
He sat will multiple terror funding godfather, that includes host saud, Qatari Emir and few others. Trump found it convenient to point to Qatar ONLY because its not only saudi money but also with saud terrorists, he made the deal.

Do you believe US green lighted this move and it was on the table before Trump administration, or were they caught by surprise and Trump once again put the US in an awkward position since he can't seem to handle foreign affairs appropriately?

Holy crap @ this thread. :sarcastic:

Reminds me of the good ole days of PDF :lol:

@Falcon29
Saudi Foreign Minister Adel Al-Jubeir Says "Enough Is Enough", Qatar Must Stop Supporting Groups Like Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood

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Egypt, Jordan, UAE and KSA have the same positions. KSA, however, was reluctant to call out Hamas publicly. If we had a state on 67 borders that was secure and Hamas disrupted the peace, then you could justify that position. That's not the case, our state is being trampled on, and this position against Hamas and other Palestinian parties is unjust. What will it mean for KSA? Nothing really, it might tarnish the regime's image a little bit, these days though don't expect nothing. The people are comfortable with the situation as it is. With exception of Muslim Brotherhood. Now this is becoming like hunting season against the MB, and demanding Qatar abandon it's interests, while they have free rein in the region, which is stupid. It's not going to work and if they take this farther they're going to force chaos out of all this. Which I'd hate to see and trying my best to give this axis benefit of doubt.
 
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Moroccan airline stops all flight going from/to Qatar.
 
Very important_ Qatar and the siege : the victory of the Egyptian state - questions and answers

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Q : Did Egypt act in severing its relations with Qatar by following Saudi Arabia and the UAE? Why now?

A : This question is the most naive and superficial .. If we reviewed history during the past two months we will find the following:

1) In early April 2017, President Sisi visits the United States and meets with the US President and agrees with him to support Egypt in its war against terrorism and the need to pursue countries that support terrorism.

2) End of April 2017 President Sisi visits Saudi Arabia.

3) May 3, 2017 President Sisi visits the United Arab Emirates.

4) May 7, 2017 President Sisi visits Kuwait.

5) May 8, 2017 President Sisi visits Bahrain.

6) 13 May 2017 Libyan National Army Commander Field Marshal / Khalifa Hafater visits Cairo.

7) May 17, 2017 King Abdullah of Jordan visits Egypt.

8) May 21 President Sisi visits Saudi Arabia to participate in the Arab-American Summit in Riyadh, gives a historic speech on terrorism and sets out the Egyptian vision to confront terrorism and extremism and asks countries that provide safe havens to terrorist organizations and finance them. . The President's statement was adopted as an official document of the Security Council.

9) May 24, 2017 Egypt - along with Saudi Arabia and the UAE - block 21 sites containing content that supports terrorism and extremism and deliberately spread lies including country sites, especially Al Jazeera.

10) May 26 President Sisi addresses the nation after the terrorist incident in Minya and announces the targeting of air strikes against terrorist organizations in the Libyan depth and asserts that strikes will be directed against any terrorist breakers inside or outside Egypt where training to strike its national security and not reconciliation with the supporting countries Of terrorism.

11) June 2, 2017 Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed visits Riyadh.

12) June 4, 2017 Saudi Foreign Minister Adel Al-Jubeir visits Cairo.

13) June 5, 2017 Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Bahrain decide to sever relations fully with Qatar.

So the story began in Egypt and ended in Egypt, and the sanctions/cutting of all ties was coordinated by Egypt with all parties to be a collective decision unified in this form.


Q: Is reconciliation between Qatar and the boycotting countries possible?

A: It is highly unlikely that any reconciliation will take place until all the demands and conditions of the Arab states are met, foremost of which is to stop interfering in the affairs of the Arab states, stop supporting terror and terrorist organizations in all forms, stop the media attack, spread strife and lies, and clarify its position on Iran and its interventions and support. Sectarian strife in the countries of the region and the provision of the wanted on its territory to the security services present there.. and perhaps compensate Egypt for all the damage caused to it in recent years of incitement and conspiracy and financing of terrorism and embrace and contain the leaders of the terrorist groups.


Q: What are the expected scenarios for national movements in Qatar?

A: There are several main scenarios expected:

1) Change the current ruling regime and take over a moderate family member and seek to reform relations with the Arab countries, with a complete retreat as the U-Turn style from all the previous policies and the start of a new page with new rules and concepts and a transparent policy with everyone. This is the closest and most logical scenario.

2) The current Qatari regime is trying to reform the situation and respond to all the Arab demands, but this is highly unlikely with the current Arab determination and the reactions and logical acts in view of Qatar's actions against these countries, especially as it retracts often from all its previous promises not to interfere in Egyptian and Gulf affairs, and thus the current system became a burnt paper and lost all possible opportunities previously available .

3) that some retaliatory terrorist operations against Egypt and the Gulf states boycotting Qatar in solidarity with them, but this will have the full reverse effect and will return to them and will prove their involvement and full involvement in supporting terrorism and will only lead to further siege and isolation, Evolve into military action. So this scenario is also unlikely.


Q - What are the expected Egyptian conditions for reconciliation with Qatar?

A: To extradite or transfer all the Brotherhood and terrorist leaderships required for justice, instigation and participation in and financing of all terrorist operations against the Egyptian State, closing the Al-Jazeera channel or changing its current policy against Egypt in full and final and not interfering in any form in the Egyptian internal affairs; Political, moral and military support for terrorist organizations, and possibly financial compensation for the material and economic losses incurred by Egypt in recent times due to the terrorist operations that took place on its territory, rumours and false news spreading, Which negatively affected tourism and foreign investments and the stability of the political and security situation of the Egyptian state.

@Gomig-21, @MICA , @Frogman ,@EgyptianAmerican ...
 
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