Saudi Arabian Air, Land, Naval Forces & SANG

[Gomig-21]

What a great pic that is! Look at that flameout on those afterburners!

And speaking of afterburners...

Notice the difference in the two nozzles? The newer F-15's and specifically the SA's are getting the new General Electric engines (top one with the turkey feathers) instead of the Pratt & Whitney ones of old or new.

 

[Windjammer]

RSAF F-15C "Special" scheme under preparation for the Saudi National Day.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

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[Saif al-Arab]

RSAF:

RSAF preparations for the Kingdom's 88th National Day celebrations

RSNF MH-60R Seahawk roll out ceremony at Lockheed Martin's Owego, NY facility

 

[Saif al-Arab]

 

[Gomig-21]

Good stuff, Saif. The anniversary paint on the F-15, Tornado and Eurofighter is beautiful.

New pic of members of Royal Saudi NSG.

 

[Zarvan]

 

[Philip the Arab]

Does anyone else think that Saudi Arabia should get some type of aircraft carrier? They wouldn't even need a large one, they could get an aircraft carrier like this but that can still carry jets that use STOVL aircraft such as the F-35B https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasp-class_amphibious_assault_ship. If Saudi Arabia could get this it could help them attack enemies from the sea which are not reachable by land. If they could get F-35Bs which is unlikely it would make it a steal, the above aircraft carrier can hold 20 F-35Bs which is a very large number on such a small ship and can also carry helicopters. They could go the British way which uses one Type 45 Destroyer which Saudi Arabia does not posses a similar boat of size to that ship but might find a way to buy or substitute with maybe an Arleigh Burke class ship. Two Type 23 class frigates which are of similar size at 4725 tons to the Type 23s 4900 tons and which could be used. An Astute Class submarine is also the last ship in the carrier group but the submarine is much bigger than anything Saudi Arabia could buy short of a miracle with the weight clocking in at 7000 tons but they could put maybe 2 or 3 smaller ones at 2000 tons instead to make up for it. Again this is just my thoughts and I could be wrong so correct me if I am but I'm sure if this did happen which it probably wont it would be very expensive maybe in the 10s of billions for the whole program.

 

[Jäger]

Does anyone else think that Saudi Arabia should get some type of aircraft carrier? They wouldn't even need a large one, they could get an aircraft carrier like this but that can still carry jets that use STOVL aircraft such as the F-35B https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasp-class_amphibious_assault_ship. If Saudi Arabia could get this it could help them attack enemies from the sea which are not reachable by land. If they could get F-35Bs which is unlikely it would make it a steal, the above aircraft carrier can hold 20 F-35Bs which is a very large number on such a small ship and can also carry helicopters. They could go the British way which uses one Type 45 Destroyer which Saudi Arabia does not posses a similar boat of size to that ship but might find a way to buy or substitute with maybe an Arleigh Burke class ship. Two Type 23 class frigates which are of similar size at 4725 tons to the Type 23s 4900 tons and which could be used. An Astute Class submarine is also the last ship in the carrier group but the submarine is much bigger than anything Saudi Arabia could buy short of a miracle with the weight clocking in at 7000 tons but they could put maybe 2 or 3 smaller ones at 2000 tons instead to make up for it. Again this is just my thoughts and I could be wrong so correct me if I am but I'm sure if this did happen which it probably wont it would be very expensive maybe in the 10s of billions for the whole program.

Before Egypt acquired the 2 Mistrals from France that were built for the Russians, Saudi Arabia expressed interest in acquiring them. however the Saudis need to focus on their main fleet with buying additional frigates, corvettes and working on acquiring something like U-209/214 before moving onto an acquisition of the Mistrals or any sort equivalent. no point in acquiring a carrier of any sort without any ships providing escort and protection.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Before Egypt acquired the 2 Mistrals from France that were built for the Russians, Saudi Arabia expressed interest in acquiring them. however the Saudis need to focus on their main fleet with buying additional frigates, corvettes and working on acquiring something like U-209/214 before moving onto an acquisition of the Mistrals or any sort equivalent. no point in acquiring a carrier of any sort without any ships providing escort and protection.

I see your point, after getting even a few submarines and escort could work out by using some frig

Before Egypt acquired the 2 Mistrals from France that were built for the Russians, Saudi Arabia expressed interest in acquiring them. however the Saudis need to focus on their main fleet with buying additional frigates, corvettes and working on acquiring something like U-209/214 before moving onto an acquisition of the Mistrals or any sort equivalent. no point in acquiring a carrier of any sort without any ships providing escort and protection.

Yeah I agree, besides I could see China developing a VTOL J-31 for carrier usage and if so it would be good purchase.

 

[Jäger]

Yeah I agree, besides I could see China developing a VTOL J-31 for carrier usage and if so it would be good purchase.

in order to get VTOLs, they need to buy something larger then a Mistral, such as you previously mentioned like a Wasp class because Mistrals are smaller. however I really don't see the legitimate need of the Saudis to really focus on LHD/Carrier.
I heard rumors that the Saudis did spend a bit of money on the J-31 so it is possible to see the J-31 flying in RSAF colors, but I would not hold my breath because I heard they are expressing a bunch of interest in LM's F-35.

 

[Swordbreaker12]

in order to get VTOLs, they need to buy something larger then a Mistral, such as you previously mentioned like a Wasp class because Mistrals are smaller. however I really don't see the legitimate need of the Saudis to really focus on LHD/Carrier.
I heard rumors that the Saudis did spend a bit of money on the J-31 so it is possible to see the J-31 flying in RSAF colors, but I would not hold my breath because I heard they are expressing a bunch of interest in LM's F-35.

The are already working on their own next generation fighter

 

[Philip the Arab]

The are already working on their own next generation fighter

With who Russia? Eurofighter typhoon has a similar RCS to the Su-57 which shows how incapable they are at
making stealth aircraft.
Eurofighter Typhoon- RCS to about 0.25–0.75 m2
Su-57- RCS of the aircraft approximately 0.1–1 square meters.

Who else? China?J-20 RCS is 1m2 to 3m2 so even worse than the Typhoon.
I think the best thing Saudi Arabia can do is be prepared to invest a lot of money and cooperate with European countries on stealth fighters since they actually know how to make stealth fighters and not propaganda jets.​

 

[Swordbreaker12]

With who Russia? Eurofighter typhoon has a similar RCS to the Su-57 which shows how incapable they are at
making stealth aircraft.
Eurofighter Typhoon- RCS to about 0.25–0.75 m2
Su-57- RCS of the aircraft approximately 0.1–1 square meters.

Who else? China?J-20 RCS is 1m2 to 3m2 so even worse than the Typhoon.
I think the best thing Saudi Arabia can do is be prepared to invest a lot of money and cooperate with European countries on stealth fighters since they actually know how to make stealth fighters and not propaganda jets.​

Which propaganda jets ?

 

[Philip the Arab]

Which propaganda jets ?

The SU-57 and the J-20.