Saudi Arabia to execute three prominent moderate scholars after Ramadan

[The SC]

Wait for future

One of Erdogan's advisors sent an open letter to king Salman a few days back..telling him that there is a very big danger to Saudi Arabia, looming around the corner..if he goes through with the executions.. because these scholars have the same rank as the prophets..
Conclusion: "The scream is always proportional to the pain"
So it is obvious for who's interests they were working..

 

[Wilhelm II]

"Secular Arabia" but it will not works..

If turkey was a theocracy this developments were impossible

One of Erdogan's advisors sent an open letter to king Salman a few days back..telling him that there is a very big danger to Saudi Arabia, looming around the corner..if he goes through with the executions.. because these scholars have the same rank as the prophets..
Conclusion: "The scream is always proportional to the pain"
So it is obvious for who's interests they were working..

Wow that was so extremely!!!!

 

[Dai Toruko]

If turkey was a theocracy this developments were impossible

You can try it but there will be nothing left of Arabia.

 

[The SC]

If turkey was a theocracy this developments were impossible

The theocrats are there to advise on religious matters..There is a whole science of governance and politics that is beyond them..Bureaucrats take care of it..and this is not necessarily secularism..

 

[Wilhelm II]

You can try it but there will be nothing left of Arabia.

It is impossible to see secular Saudi Arabia because this country have a powerful face of Islam in heart of any Saudi but development is not a secular thing UAE is a big simple for development by humans ability

 

[Numerous]

Both Islamists and Iran have a common underlying denominator in politicizing Islam..These "Moderate (not according to Sharia')", "Scholars (unknown to be prominent)" Were working according to foreign countries agendas..That did not line up with their own country's interests.

That's not true. These scholars are simply in this position because they didn't follow Bin Salman's line.

Sure westerners calling them moderators is wrong since being a moderate Muslim to westerners is basically rejecting parts of Islam, but I'm sure these scholars don't do that and they are just normal muslim scholars.

 

[maithil]

Lust for human blood is just not ending for MBS. How much more does he need to drink ?

 

[Aramagedon]

I would've gave you a negative rating too. You said the Qur'an has been changed by arabs. You deserved it.

Some ayas of Quran in Surah al-Ahzab about Ahlulbayt are removed. Even hadiths of Prophet (PBUH) were burnt purposely at time of Umar and Uthman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Umar's_ban_on_hadith

If it wasn't Umar and Uthman attitude there wouldn't be Moaviah, Yazeed, Sufiyani, Karbala, Najd, martyrdom of 11 Shia Imams (son in-law and grandsons of Prophet Muhammad (PBUT) and absense of 12th imam, Imam Mahdi (PBUH).

Allah intends only to remove from you the impurity [of sin], O people of the [Prophet's] household, and to purify you with [extensive] purification. {33:33}

http://en.mobile.wikishia.net/view/Integrity_of_the_Holy_Qur'an

Umar was the first person who repeled Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) during his lifetime and martyred her daughter at age 18 after demise of holy Prophet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_the_pen_and_paper

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Umar_at_Fatimah's_house

 

[Numerous]

Some ayas of Quran in Surah al-Ahzab about Ahlulbayt are removed. Even hadiths of Prophet (PBUH) were burnt purposely at time of Umar and Uthman. If it wasn't Umar and Uthman attitude there wouldn't be Moaviah, Yazeed, Sufiyani, Karbala, Najd, martyrdom of 11 Shia Imams (son in-law and grandsons of Holy Prophet(PBUT)) and absense 12th imam, Imam Mahdi (PBUH).

Allah intends only to remove from you the impurity [of sin], O people of the [Prophet's] household, and to purify you with [extensive] purification. {33:33}

http://en.mobile.wikishia.net/view/Integrity_of_the_Holy_Qur'an

Umar was the person who repeled Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) during prophet lifetime and martyred her daughter at age inly 18 after his demise:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_the_pen_and_paper

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Umar_at_Fatimah's_house

You do know that saying the Qur'an has been changed is a kufr belief? That's how serious your actions are at this point.

 

[Aramagedon]

You do know that saying the Qur'an has been changed is a kufr belief? That's how serious your actions are at this point.

Burning hadiths of Holy Prophet about Ahlulbayt is also kufr. However Quran is not changed but some part of it at time of second caliph is removed. [1/3 of Surah al-Ahzab from what I've heard]

http://en.mobile.wikishia.net/view/Integrity_of_the_Holy_Qur'an

 

[Numerous]

Burning hadiths of Holy Prophet about Ahlulbayt is also kufr. However Quran is not changed but some part of it at time of second caliph Umar is removed. [1/3 of Surah al-ahzab from what I've heard]

http://en.mobile.wikishia.net/view/Integrity_of_the_Holy_Qur'an

Removing part of the Qur'an is changing it. That's literally what you're saying.

You keep shifting your post, you're linking me random things like Umar (ra) attacking Fatima (ra), hadith collection & other things. I talked about your belief that the Qur'an has changed, I'm not here to start an argument on every single topic you have a problem with. Even though I'll happily say that all of the things you mention are either misunderstood by you or plain false like the house attack.

 

[Falcon29]

What's your opinion about the Madkhalis?

Never heard of them tbh.

 

[Aramagedon]

Removing part of the Qur'an is changing it. That's literally what you're saying.

You keep shifting your post, you're linking me random things like Umar (ra) attacking Fatima (ra), hadith collection & other things. I talked about your belief that the Qur'an has changed, I'm not here to start an argument on every single topic you have a problem with. Even though I'll happily say that all of the things you mention are either misunderstood by you or plain false like the house attack.

Take a look at this hadith from wife of Holy Prophet (PBUH):

Umar and Uthman purposely removed many parts of Quran which were about Hakamiat, Wilayt, Shaan of Ahlulbay (PBUT) and Ghadir.

For example Surah al-Ahzab alone was longer than Surah Baqarah.

https://www.quora.com/Why-was-the-Q...amount-that-can-be-found-in-the-present-Quran

 

[Numerous]

Take a look at this hadith from wife of Holy Prophet (PBUH):

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Umar and Uthman purposely removed many parts of Quran which were about Hakamiat, Wilayt, Shaan of Ahlulbay (PBUT) and Ghadir.

For example Surah al-Ahzab alone was longer than Surah Baqarah.

https://www.quora.com/Why-was-the-Q...amount-that-can-be-found-in-the-present-Quran

https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/84587/

Abrogation is a thing but you believe the Qur'an was corrupted due to the sahaba purposely removing verses favouring Ahlul Bayt (may Allah be pleased with them). So that is totally different. Your view is literally kufr because you are denying the Qur'ans preservation.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/84587/

Abrogation is a thing but you believe the Qur'an was corrupted due to the sahaba purposely removing verses favouring Ahlul Bayt (may Allah be pleased with them). So that is totally different. Your view is literally kufr because you are denying the Qur'ans preservation.

Another anti Shi'a Pakistani Street Dawah salafi bitch faggot