Saudi Arabia slams Norway’s human rights record

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@al-Hasani

 

[Arabian Legend]

Indian are laughing like they are the pinnacle of civilisation

So much of human rights.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

atleast we dont put signs no Non-Muslims allowed in mecca or you cannot practice your religion in this nation etc. quite funny

Actually, many Temples are solely open for Hindus, but non-Hindus aren't allowed, which is similar to Mecca argument. I hope this won't be as funny as what you have predicated.

Next ...

Indian are laughing like they are the pinnacle of civilisation

Not all Indians as a matter of fact!

But many of them dislike us, that's why we are seeing this kind of reactions.

I'm not ready you to bash India. I will be taking my cases individually.

 

[wolfschanzze]

Actually, many Temples are solely open for Hindus, but non-Hindus aren't allowed, which is similar to Mecca argument. I hope this won't be as funny as what you have predicated.

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Thats because of many invaders the temples are not open to foreigners.

 

[al-Hasani]

These women aren't subjected to rape and sexual harassment like what happens in The republic of Rape ''India'' on a daily basis. A country where caste system is functioning and female infanticide is practiced yet Indians have the idiocy to brag about Human rights.




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Dubai: Saudi Arabia has reportedly asked Norway to do more to protect Muslims living in the Scandinavian country and to counter campaigns against Prophet Mohammad (PBUH).

Riyadh “called for all criticism of religion and of Prophet Mohammad to be made illegal in Norway” and noted “a continuation of hate crimes against Muslims in the country,” the UK-based Independent daily reported.

Riyadh also expressed concern at “increasing cases of domestic violence, rape crimes and inequality in riches” and noted a continuation of hate crimes against Muslims in the country, the paper reported.

Norway’s human rights record came on Monday under scrutiny during the United Nations’ Universal Periodic Review (UPR), in which 14 countries are examined.

According to The Local, a Norwegian publication in English, Russia used the UPR to accuse Norway of “allowing extremist groups to operate freely” and of “moving too quickly to separate children from their parents.”

Norwegian Foreign Minister Børge Brende, who was in Geneva on Monday to respond to sharp criticism, had earlier told Norway’s NTB newswire that many of the countries that criticised Norway could not boast of “spotless human rights records.”

“It is a paradox that countries which do not support fundamental human rights have influence on the council, but that is the United Nations,” he said, quoted byThe Local.

The United Nations promotes the UPR as “a unique process which involves a review of the human rights records of all UN Member States.”

“The UPR is a State-driven process, under the auspices of the Human Rights Council, which provides the opportunity for each State to declare what actions they have taken to improve the human rights situations in their countries and to fulfil their human rights obligations.”

Norway was the first country to be reviewed by the Universal Periodic Review Working Group during the current session held in Geneva from April 28 to May 9.

The Netherlands and Italy also criticised Norway for the long periods crime suspects spend in police custody and pre-trial detention, with more than 40 per cent of those arrested spending longer than the 48 hour maximum recommended by the United Nations, The Local reported.

The Netherlands also wanted the Norwegian government to “explain how it assesses the widespread use of solitary confinement in detention and how it may work towards a more selective application of this measure.”

Another advance question by the Netherlands was whether the government was “prepared to reassess the Norwegian penal code and amend the legal definition of rape so as to bring it more in line with international human right standards.”

The United Kingdom asked to know what Norway was doing “to help prevent discrimination and hate crime against migrant Roma.”

It also sought an answer to what Norway was doing “to intensify efforts already undertaken to ensure that emergency shelters and social housing units meet an adequate standard, especially for families with children.”

Mexico wanted to know “the measures adopted to strengthen and support the efforts to ensure the right and access to education for migrant and asylum-seeking children.”

Mexico also looked for a response on “how the [Norwegian] government ensures in its arms trade regulations that these do not reach actors suspected of committing human rights violations or abuses.”

Saudi Arabia criticises Norway human rights record | GulfNews.com

Somebody went quite. If anyone decided to criticize India they could use hours on doing that given the amount of enormous problems they have and suffer from. Peanuts compared to the problems of KSA.

The internal practices of KSA does not affect the validity of their criticism against Norway, this is called a tu quoque fallacy:
Tu quoque - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unfortuantely some Indians (what the hell do they have to do with the ancient Middle East, KSA, Norway, Islam etc. ?) are unable to understand this.

Really?

So tell me something, do you allow Churches and temples to be built in Saudi?

Does sharia allow that?

You have the right to criticize others the day you are on an equal footing.

Yes, as a matter of the fact we have one of the oldest churches in the world. 1700 years although abandoned.

Jubail Church - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why the hell should we have temples and churches when no native Saudi Arabian is a Christian, Jew or Pagan anymore?
Besides people of other faiths are free to worship their own religions privately. They are temporarily guests. Not citizens.


What a idiotic troll "news" by the RT propaganda channel (well-known Ruskie propaganda "news" outlet") and it's usual anti-KSA nonsense.

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KSA did not criticize the human rights of Norway. That's just a bombastic thread title. They raised concern about the Muslim community in Norway which has been subject to unpleasant incidents. Not the only Scandinavian country that has that.

RT is as legitimate as a news source as the Iranian Mullah "news" outlet Press TV (Piss TV) when KSA is discussed.

Next!

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

1) That is not for Saudi Arabia to demand, since officially they can only speak for Saudi Arabians. Norwegian muslims for example, are wards of the state of Norway. A Country's government and ambassadors can only represent the country, not any religion.

So sorry, but we are a member-state of the OIC, we reserve the right to speak in this regard.

Let's agree to disagree.

I respect your opinion though ...

1) That is not for Saudi Arabia to demand, since officially they can only speak for Saudi Arabians. Norwegian muslims for example, are wards of the state of Norway. A Country's government and ambassadors can only represent the country, not any religion.

2) India did NOT condemn persecution of hindus in Australia, we condemned the attacks on Indians. India's ministries cannot and will not speak on behalf of any specific religion. Any racially motivated attack that took place was rightly viewed as an attack on Indians, regardless of their religious beliefs. The religious beliefs of the victims or the perpetrators did not matter one whit to us.

Thats because of many invaders the temples are not open to foreigners.

Fair enough, I understand your genuine concerns. I do realize the fact that India religious sites are being targeted to some extents, but this isn't a good excuse to deny people an access.

 

[Arabian Legend]

KSA did not criticize the human rights of Norway. That's just a bombastic thread title. They raised concern about the Muslim community in Norway which has been subject to unpleasant incidents. Not the only Scandinavian country that has that.

Indians outcry for anything that related to Islam. Their country was conquered by Muslims for almost 1000 years and then torn apart two times. Now you know why

A little support to Kashmiris as well as to indians Muslims so that they get their own piece of cake.

 

[Kesang]

Norway need such kind of police force to ensure human rights of Muslims

BBC News | MIDDLE EAST | Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue

 

[al-Hasani]

Norway need such kind of police force to ensure human rights of Muslims

BBC News | MIDDLE EAST | Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue

False 12 years old (!) news. Not everything you read is authentic. They arrived when it was too late and that never happened. Idiotic news. Like anyone would do such a thing or a allow that to happen. Let alone the cultured local Makkawis.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Norway need such kind of police force to ensure human rights of Muslims

BBC News | MIDDLE EAST | Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue

I think you are needed by Norway to take them to the next level ...

Just make sure you won't crash.

Indians outcry for anything that related to Islam. Their country was conquered by Muslims for almost 1000 years and then torn apart two times. Now you know why

A little support to Kashmiris as well as to indians Muslims so that they get their own piece of cake.

Islam entered India through two-way trade relations, it wasn't a conquest at all. As a matter of fact, they pushed the Ummayyd back.

 

[al-Hasani]

Notice how 90% of the comments, mostly idiotic troll comments, are made by our Indian friends. Laughable. Maybe they should feed the highest amount of poor people on the surface of this planet instead of worrying about a twisted "news" title made by the PROPAGANDA outlet RT.

I "wish" that we could show a similar interest in their affairs.

Amazing really.

Can't they get back to their own section? Last time I checked India is not located in the ancient ME.

 

[wolfschanzze]

So sorry, but we are a member-state of the OIC, we reserve the right to speak in this regard.

Let's agree to disagree.

I respect your opinion though ...








Fair enough, I understand your genuine concerns. I do realize the fact that India religious sites are being targeted to some extents, but this isn't a good excuse to deny people an access.

After centuries of such behaviour by outsiders and recent terrorist attacks on our places of worship you dont expect people to change so fast.Yes give it 10 years everyone will be allowed.But they will be closely watched nonetheless under tight security for genuine visitors/

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

After centuries of such behaviour by outsiders and recent terrorist attacks on our places of worship you dont expect people to change so fast.Yes give it 10 years everyone will be allowed.But they will be closely watched nonetheless under tight security for genuine visitors/

I respect your faith, concerns.

I'm just saying that you aren't different from Muslims or some Christians, and all.

Notice how 90% of the comments, mostly idiotic troll comments, are made by our Indian friends. Laughable. Maybe they should feed the highest amount of poor people on the surface of this planet instead of worrying about a twisted "news" title made by the PROPAGANDA outlet RT.

I "wish" that we could show a similar interest in their affairs.

Amazing really.

Can't they get back to their own section? Last time I checked India is not located in the ancient ME.

Many of them hate us. Don't expect them to hug you.

I do have my reservation to some of the comments you made.

 

[wolfschanzze]

I respect your faith, concerns.

I'm just saying that you aren't different from Muslims or some Christians, and all.



Many of them hate us. Don't expect them to hug you.

I do have my reservation to some of the comments you made.

All right cool!

 

[ozzy22]

The arrogance of these Indians on this forum and these are supposed to be the educated ones