Saudi Arabia sentences Shia Cleric to Death

[gau8av]

This picture was taken by me not 15 minutes ago, religious intolerance is slowly disappearing in the country. I am happy with change regardless of its speed. But no can deny that change is there.


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that's good but why on earth are people's religion listed ?

 

[Syrian Lion]

lol so he protested and was labeled terrorist, I wonder what will happen to him if he raised an army and asked foreigners to come to his country and bomb cities and kill people and then blame the government... the double standard with saudis is really high...

 

[Mosamania]

that's good but why on earth are people's religion listed ?

They are councillors, meaning that people with the same religion who have questions regarding that religion can ask these people, I didn't include the phones numbers on the right side for obvious reasons.

 

[gau8av]

They are councillors, meaning that people with the same religion who have questions regarding that religion can ask these people, I didn't include the phones numbers on the right side for obvious reasons.

ah ok, I was thinking those were doctors' faiths listed, that would have been strange considering doctors take an oath to treat everyone regardless as its their code.

 

[Mosamania]

ah ok, I was thinking those were doctors' faiths listed, that would have been strange considering doctors take an oath to treat everyone regardless as its their code.

No they are just councillors, As it appears Saudi arabia is finally opening up to religious tolerance and in a big way, let's not ruin this process.

Nimr was sectarian as hell, he actively promoted sectarianism, and the establishment of a Hizbolla wing in KSA, he was stopped before such a terrorist organization could form, the reason he is being arrested is because he is the wing leader and that wing caused the death of 3 police officers. And conspiracy to commit murder means all parties are charged for the same crime, thus he is also charged with murder, and thus the death sentence.

But this sentence is not final mind you, it still has to go through 4 more courts approved in each to get the death sentence, this is only the first one, and only 2% of death sentences are actually carried out now from this primary court before being stopped by subsequent courts.

 

[New]

lol so he protested and was labeled terrorist, I wonder what will happen to him if he raised an army and asked foreigners to come to his country and bomb cities and kill people and then blame the government... the double standard with saudis is really high..

It depends on where he might be located, in Syria he would be named the "Free Syrian Army" and in SA he would be considered a murderer terrorist whom should be beheaded immediately.

 

[gau8av]

No they are just councillors, As it appears Saudi arabia is finally opening up to religious tolerance and in a big way, let's not ruin this process.

that's good to hear, the whole world could do with a serious dose of religious tolerance atm, spl in the middle east.

Nimr was sectarian as hell, he actively promoted sectarianism, and the establishment of a Hizbolla wing in KSA, he was stopped before such a terrorist organization could form, the reason he is being arrested is because he is the wing leader and that wing caused the death of 3 police officers. And conspiracy to commit murder means all parties are charged for the same crime, thus he is also charged with murder, and thus the death sentence.

But this sentence is not final mind you, it still has to go through 4 more courts approved in each to get the death sentence, this is only the first one, and only 2% of death sentences are actually carried out now from this primary court before being stopped by subsequent courts.

even if found guilty by a fair court of law, there should be a more "humane" way to execute him.. I'm not one to judge another culture but beheadings seem a bit barbaric, if they must, why not just put a bullet in his head and be done with it.

 

[al-Hasani]

lol so he protested and was labeled terrorist, I wonder what will happen to him if he raised an army and asked foreigners to come to his country and bomb cities and kill people and then blame the government... the double standard with saudis is really high...

He is a terrorist and traitor whose armed gangs were responsible for the death of local Shia and policemen. This has nothing to do with Syria. Syria is an indigenous uprising and was from the beginning and we stand by with the Syrian people not the Al-Assad terror regime. We already discussed this and there is no reason to start again. This is not the thread for it.

that's good to hear, the whole world could do with a serious dose of religious tolerance atm, spl in the middle east.


even if found guilty by a fair court of law, there should be a more "humane" way to execute him.. I'm not one to judge another culture but beheadings seem a bit barbaric, if they must, why not just put a bullet in his head and be done with it.

If we want to be religious that is our affair alone only. It's not the business of others. We are religious people and are very comfortable with that.

Yes, a beheading that lasts 1 second, is swift, painless, cheap and obviously quick is "barbaric" but lethal injections, gas chambers, electric chairs, hanging with cranes that can take up to minutes (Mullahstan) is not.

We also have hangings and for military personal bullets can be used if I recall correctly.

Beheading with a sword is a very good and humane method of execution. Islamic too.

No they are just councillors, As it appears Saudi arabia is finally opening up to religious tolerance and in a big way, let's not ruin this process.

Nimr was sectarian as hell, he actively promoted sectarianism, and the establishment of a Hizbolla wing in KSA, he was stopped before such a terrorist organization could form, the reason he is being arrested is because he is the wing leader and that wing caused the death of 3 police officers. And conspiracy to commit murder means all parties are charged for the same crime, thus he is also charged with murder, and thus the death sentence.

But this sentence is not final mind you, it still has to go through 4 more courts approved in each to get the death sentence, this is only the first one, and only 2% of death sentences are actually carried out now from this primary court before being stopped by subsequent courts.

There is no need telling them this as those people will keep crying about his innocence even if he was behind the killing of their family members. Just because he is getting executed (hopefully) in KSA. Give it a rest, Mosab. Just like you told me in that other thread.

In short, one less terrorist and traitor left.

 

[Cheetah786]

Raising fears of renewed sectarian tensions in the region, Saudi Arabia’s top court has sentenced a charismatic opposition leader to death for speaking out against the kingdom’s ruling family.

Bashar al-Assad( House of Terrorist Saud spending billions upon billions supporting terrorist in Syria to topple Bashar al-Assad cause they say sunnis arent being treated fairly. apparently same question raised about Terrorist House Of Saud will get you death penalty by Kangaroo court in occupied Arabia) He has a wide following, particularly among young people in Saudi Arabia’s Eastern Province, home to most of the country’s minority Shiites, who are considered heretics by the Sunni-ruled government.

After being imprisoned for nearly two years, al-Nimr appeared in Riyadh’s Specialized Criminal Court Wednesday with his lawyer and two brothers. Charged with terrorism offences and “breaking allegiance to the king,” the judge upheld the country’s harshest sentence — “crucifixion” — where the decapitated body is publicly displayed. His brothers were reportedly detained after the sentencing.

Al-Nimr’s family urged Saudi authorities to reconsider the sentence, given the cleric’s teachings to never use force against the government. “They use violent bullets, we will use the roar of the word,” al-Nimr said in a sermon in 2011.

In another sermon that year, al-Nimr stated: “It is not permitted to use weapons and spread corruption in society.”

Al-Nimr was arrested in July 2012 following a gun battle in which he was shot in the leg four times for allegedly resisting arrest. His relatives deny police claims of rioting, saying the protests were peaceful and that al-Nimr never resisted arrest or owned a gun.


The confrontation took place after a fiery speech al-Nimr delivered earlier that month following Arab Spring-inspired protests across the region. “What gives the House of Saud the power to inherit the throne?” he said. “The House of Saud and Khalifa (in Bahrain) are mere collaborators with and pawns of the British and their cohorts. It is our right, and the right of the Bahraini people, and all people everywhere, to choose our leaders and demand that rule by succession be done away with as it contradicts our religion.”


Al-Nimr was held for eight months before being charged and his trial was delayed twice to allow the prosecution to gather more evidence.

Amnesty International described the trial as “seriously flawed.”


“Eyewitnesses, whose testimonies were the only evidence used against him, were not brought to court to testify,” said Said Boumedouha, deputy director of Amnesty International’s Middle East and North Africa program. “The sheikh was denied the most basic means to prepare for his defence and was not represented by legal counsel for some of the proceedings because the authorities did not inform his lawyer of some dates of the hearings.”

Toby Matthieson, a researcher at Cambridge University and author of The Other Saudis: Shiism, Dissent and Sectarianism, told The Star the sentence has the ability to heighten Sunni-Shiite tensions in the region.


“The Saudis have a long history with Sheikh Nimr,” he added, noting an amnesty agreement in 1993 between the Saudi government and Shiite opposition that al-Nimr rejected. “They want to get rid of the one guy who has become a symbol of the (opposition) movement. But they may not execute him. If they did, he would be the first political prisoner to be executed in Saudi Arabia in decades. They like to use these people as bargaining chips.”

Al-Nimr’s detention and trial sparked warnings from Iraq’s most influential Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the Shiite clergy in Iran and the militant group Hezbollah. Activists in the U.K., Europe and Australia also held public demonstrations calling for his release.

Prominent religious leader Sayed Mahdi Modarresi blasted Saudi Arabia in a fiery blog post earlier this month, calling it “a country that belongs to the Stone Age rather than the 21st century” and attributing its extremist laws to the militant Salafi interpretation it adopts — and shares with the Islamic State group.

“Saudi Arabia is a country which has no constitution and no elections,” he wrote in the Huffington Post U.K. “Laws are enacted by royal decrees and ratified by a toothless parliament whose members are installed by the monarch. If this is how the Sunni citizens are treated, you can only imagine what the (Shiite) face on a daily basis. ”

People took to Twitter on Wednesday to condemn the sentence. In the U.K., 18-year-old Ali Reza Versi tweeted, “If the Saudis have the audacity and stupidity to execute ‪#SheikhNimr, it would open the floodgates to a powerful revolt.” London-based artist Zainab Tejani said: “The man who tried to create peace has been sentenced to death by the Saudi regime. The world must awaken.”

Saudi Arabia sentences reformist Shiite cleric to ‘crucifixion’ | Toronto Star

 

[MoshteAhani]

No they are just councillors, As it appears Saudi arabia is finally opening up to religious tolerance and in a big way, let's not ruin this process.

Nimr was sectarian as hell, he actively promoted sectarianism, and the establishment of a Hizbolla wing in KSA, he was stopped before such a terrorist organization could form, the reason he is being arrested is because he is the wing leader and that wing caused the death of 3 police officers. And conspiracy to commit murder means all parties are charged for the same crime, thus he is also charged with murder, and thus the death sentence.

But this sentence is not final mind you, it still has to go through 4 more courts approved in each to get the death sentence, this is only the first one, and only 2% of death sentences are actually carried out now from this primary court before being stopped by subsequent courts.

So if it has to go through several courts before he is actually executed then what are the chances ?

 

[New]

Saudi Arabia is a country which has no constitution and no elections,” he wrote in the Huffington Post U.K. “Laws are enacted by royal decrees and ratified by a toothless parliament whose members are installed by the monarch. If this is how the Sunni citizens are treated, you can only imagine what the (Shiite) face on a daily basis. ”

calling it “a country that belongs to the Stone Age rather than the 21st century”

@al-Hasani, Hey dude, as a native will you please explain if these claims are true or not?

PS: The source Saudi Arabia sentences reformist Shiite cleric to ‘crucifixion’ | Toronto Star

 

[Mosamania]

So if it has to go through several courts before he is actually executed then what are the chances ?

@al-Hasani, Hey dude, as a native will you please explain if these claims are true or not?

PS: The source Saudi Arabia sentences reformist Shiite cleric to ‘crucifixion’ | Toronto Star

No the crucifixion sentence was vehemently rejected by the court, instead his charges are only on conspiracy to commit murder of the 3 assassinated police officers (2 of whom are Shias mind you).

 

[F117]

These shortsighted measures will only drive the Shiite Saudi Arabians into Iran's arms. Anyway, the need of the hour is to create the Saudi version of Hezbollah, to declare independence and grab the oil rich provinces.

 

[narcon]

@Mercenary

Let's see. KSA is home to the largest Hindu community outside of India..

What???????

 

[Mosamania]

These shortsighted measures will only drive the Shiite Saudi Arabians into Iran's arms. Anyway, the need of the hour is to create the Saudi version of Hezbollah, to declare independence and grab the oil rich provinces.

Actually this guy was on the process of creating a Hizb, but nope, Saudi arabia is not Yemen or Lebanon, this sh1t won't fly here.

Now go cry me a river and sail on it.