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SAUDI ARABIA: Ideological and Financial Epicentre of Jihad?

By R. Upadhyay

Jihadi terrorism which is inspired by the 260 year old tradition of extreme intolerance against the infidels flowing from the Saudi sponsored ideology of Wahhabism is the most challenging menace for the modern world.

With fusion of religion and political control, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia derived religious legitimacy from being the custodian of the two holiest shrines and controller of annual Haj pilgrimage and positioned itself to be the authoritative voice of Islamic world. However, when it faced the challenge of the Jihadi terrorists in its own land in late seventies of last century, it started spending billions of dollars for spreading Wahhabism in different countries with the objective to developing a clout in Islamic establishments. Due to this persistent and ruthless endeavour Wahhabi thought and customs are not only taking root among sizeable section of world Muslims but are also making inroads even among the peace loving faithfuls.

A cursory glance to the chronology of Jihadi terrorism gives an idea that empowerment to violent Islamists is not an overnight development. It is in fact a logical culmination of the politics of Arab imperialism which began after the death of Prophet Mohammad, the founder of Islam who in his first Jihad in 622 AD gave a command to his soldiers, “Fight and fear not, the gates of Paradise are under the shade of sword” (‘The Arabs’ by Anthony Nutting, Hollis & Carter, London, page 23). Similarly, in his last address before death in 632 he said, “I was ordered to fight all men until they say ‘there is no god but Allah’. (Prophet Mohammad’s farewell address, March 632 – Islamic Imperialism – A History – Efraim Karsh, Yale University Press London, 2006, page 2).

Interpreting these two calls as perpetual advice and Islamic sanction to the Arabic word Jihad which literally means struggle, his companions launched war not for the cause of Islamic spiritualism but for Arab Imperialism .Clubbing Islam with Arab culture and transforming it into a cleverly designed violent political ideology, the Arab warlords due to their mental make-up of ‘killed or be killed’ reminded their followers that so long all the Qafirs (Infidels that is non-Muslims) do not surrender to Islamic Empire and accept Allah as the One and Only God it is the obligation of each Muslim within his abilities to launch Jihad against the infidels. Pursuing such an interpretation of Islam, they turned the trail to bloodshed, pushed the spiritual aspect of the faith to the back burner and conquered vast territories from Spain in West to the Indian sub-continent in South. Many scholars therefore call this Jihad as civilisational war against the non-Arabs. Wahhabism, which laid the foundation stone of Saudi Arabia in mid eighteenth century is still its political ideology. It is also based on the same political interpretation of Islam by the medieval Muslim marauders and is still the root cause of the on going Jihadi terrorism.

Historically, in between the reign of the first Caliph Abu Bakre from 632 AD to the abolition of the Ottoman Empire in 1924, it was the story of the rise and fall of Arabs. However, when this mighty Islamic Empire of last Caliph entered into a period of military reverses, a hardcore Islamist zealot namely Maulana Mohammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab (1703-92) from the Najd region of Arabian Peninsula rejuvenated the movement for revival of pristine Islam based on extreme Arab traditions of Prophet Era with an objective to restore the glory of Islamic power. While advocating purging of Islam from modern innovation, he prescribed the imperialistic supremacy of Ummah (Muslim community) under the Arab leadership and recommended Jihad against the Qafirs, Shias, Sufis and the fellow Muslim heretics as the only solution to the evil being faced by the Muslims. For him worship to the tombs of Sufi saints was idolatry. Following the foot steps of the companions of the Prophet he also clubbed Islam with Arab culture and made these two words synonymous to each other. Wahhab’s worldview of extreme intolerance and belief in divine fiat of authoritarian state under the command of exclusively central Arabian power is also known as Sunni theo-fascism which continued and still continues to proliferate it across the globe.

Like Prophet Mohammad who was forced to flee from Mecca region at the beginning of revelations to him, Wahhab’s preaching was also not acceptable to the ruler of his region. Accordingly, being expelled from his home town he took refuge in Ad’Dirjyyah near Riyadh then under the control of an Arab war lord of Al Saud clan named Mohammad ibn Saud. Inspired with the teachings of Wahhab which advocated the fusion of Islam and political power, Ibn Saud, then a principal tribal leader of Arabian Peninsula became ambitious to extend his political territory and therefore forged an alliance with the former in 1744/1745. The Alliance was based on an agreement in which Ibn Saud pledged to implement and enforce his teachings for cleansing the Islamic practices of heresy; the latter endorsed the legitimacy of Saudi monarchy to rule over the Islamic Empire though the latter had no credible claim over it. Accordingly, the Saudi king with the Jihadi followers of Maulana Wahhab launched Jihad against the different rulers in Arabian Peninsula and expanded his political boundary by conquering various regions. Their attempt to capture Mecca was however, frustrated by the forces of the Ottoman Empire in 1818.

After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in 1924, the ambitious Saudi king re-launched Jihad against the kingdom of Hejaz then under the control of Ottoman representative Hussain, a Hashimite (A broader combination of a group of Arab clans including the Quraysh sub-clan of which Prophet Mohammad belonged). Defeating Hussain who was also the then Sharifs (Custodians) of Mecca shrine in 1926 the king became the custodian of the holiest place of Islam and his Saudi kingdom was duly recognised by United Kingdom under the Treaty of Jeddah in 1927 (The British then did not realize what they were doing). “For centuries Hashemites governed Mecca which was attacked and sacked by Ismaili Muslims in 930 CE and by the Wahhabis in 1803. In 1926, the Sharifs of Mecca were overthrown by the Saudis, and Mecca was incorporated into Saudi Arabia”. After conquering Mecca and Medina Ibn Saud united the different conquered regions of Arabian Peninsula in one political unit in1932, established the kingdom of Saudi Arabia and declared himself as king of the country. His legitimacy to lord over the region is thus questionable.

Since Saudi-Wahhabi partnership was based on mutual interest, Abdul Aziz took Wahhabism which had been carrying forward the legacy of the Arab instinct of imperialism, justifying the Saudi Monarchy since 1744 AD and endorsing the royal family’s authority in political, security and economic spheres of the state, as key to the longevity of the rule of his dynasty. Accordingly while recognising the Wahhabi version of Islamic rule as political ideology of his kingdom, he granted the Wahhabi clerics the control over religious, social and educational institutions and also allowed them to enforce the Sharia (Islamic law) in the kingdom rigidly. Since then Wahhabism became an integral part of Saudi administration and therefore, the royal family was duty bound to spend a substantial portion of its oil-earned revenue for its promotion not only in the kingdom but also across the world. The present day problems of the Muslim could thus be tracked to the Saudis.

Sharing a significant share in the political power of theocratic Saudi kingdom Wahhabi clerics have been enjoying the status of a much more privileged class in comparison to their counterparts during the medieval Islamic Empire. Today Wahhabism, a “most intolerant expression of Islam” is characterised as Islamo-fascist group due to its “ extremist, puritanical, contemptuous of modernity, misogynist and militant in nature” ( Wahhabi Islam: From revival and reform to global jihad by Natna J. Delong – Bas, page 3, I.B. Publishers).

As a first step to consolidate their hold in the masses, the Wahhabi clerics framed the educational policy and prescribed the text books in schools with a view to inciting hatred and violence against the infidels. Now these textbooks having the potential to indoctrinate the students and youths are also found in the syllabus of Wahhabi madrassas in various parts of the world. “Saudi text books describe Jihad as the summit of Islam and one of the most magnificent acts of obedience to God and endorse its militant form for both for defensive and aggressive purposes” (Nina Shea and Ali al Ahmad, National Review Online, August 3, 2009). Dr. Shea, the director of the Hudson Institute’s Centre for Religious Freedom and Commissioner on the US Commission on Religious Freedom is also the author of “200 Update: Saudi Arabia’s Curriculum of Intolerance”.The writer in her earlier paper dated September 5, 2008 referred to the Saudi Education Ministry which “publishes and disseminates teachings that Muslims are to hate and treat as enemies other religious believers, including other, non-Wahhabi Muslims”. She added that “these text books assert that it is permissible for a Muslim to kill an apostate, an adulterer, those practicing major polytheism and homosexuals. They promote global Jihad as an effort to wage war against the unbelievers including for the purpose of calling (infidels) to the faith”.

Curtin Winsor, Jr. Special Emissary to the Middle East during Regan administration in his paper (2001) entitled “Saudi Arabia, Wahhabism and Spread of Sunni Theo-fascism” observed: “While Saudi citizens remain the vanguard of Islamic theo-fascism around the world, the growth potential for this ideology lies outside the kingdom. The Saudis have spent at least $ 87 billion propagating Wahhabism abroad during the past two decades and the scale of financing is believed to have increased in the past two years as oil prices have sky rocketed. The bulk of the funding goes to the construction of mosques, madrassa, and other religious institutions that preach Wahhabism. It also supports the training of Imams; domination of mass media and publishing outlets; distribution of Wahhabi text books and other literatures; and endowment to universities”. Wahhabism has taken such a deep root in Saudi Arabia that “any attempt by Saudi Royal family under international pressure to curtail the Wahhabis could lead to terrorist attack on country’s vulnerable petroleum infrastructure or lead to the collapse of monarchy” (Ibid.).

The annual report 2004 on Saudi Arabia under ‘International Religious Freedom Act 1998 stated: “Government prohibits public non-Muslim religious activities. Non-Muslim worshippers risk imprisonment, lashing, deportation and sometimes torture for engaging in religious activities that attract official attention. Prosylytising by non-Muslims including the distribution of non-Muslim religious materials such as Bibles is illegal” (Saudi Arabia: People-Politics- Policies By Gulshan Dietl, National Book Trust, India, 2006, page 22). Although, the US Congress took note of this report but except declaring Saudi Arabia “a country of Particular Concern” it maintained silence on the issue. ‘Liberation’ a French daily in a debate published in early 2003 observed: “All over the world Imamas trained in Wahhabi school preach hatred and violence in mosques paid for with Saudi money” (The Saudi Enigma by Pascal Menoret, ZED Books London & New York, 2005, Page 62).

Dr. Sami Alrabaa, an ex Muslim and an Arab Muslim culture specialist in an article dated January 26, 2009 ( islam-watch.org) entitled “Saudi textbooks incite hatred & violence against non-Muslims” suggests that so long Saudi Arabia and the other Arab oil countries on the Persian Gulf are not forced by the free world the war on Islamic terror will remain futile.

Referring to Ahmad Al Sarraf a renowned columnist in Al Qabas (June 2, 2007), a Kuwaiti daily Dr. Sami cited the teachers manual in Grade 8 textbook which says, “ Command Muslims to hate Christians, Jews, polytheists and other unbelievers including non-devout Muslims” (Page 14 in Grade 8 textbook). In his another article dated February 10, 2009 the writer observed that the “Saudi King and his clan are the law. They rule whimsically, supported by Wahhabism, a stone-age Islamic version of Islam”. In another article on the Wahhabisation of Saudi people he observed, “A hatred-inciting education system and lack of contact with the secular world in terms of books and culture have generated a fanatic population” “All that being said, we should not wonder that 15 of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis”. He also wrote that Wahhabi books are also “printed and funded by Saudis for schools in Pakistan, Indonesia, Deobandi madrassas in India and elsewhere”. Despite such curriculum of intolerancee one should not wonder that the Saudi kingdom organized an interfaith dialogue with some of its trusted Christian and Jew leaders. (A paper of this writer can be seen in the site of saag.org).

It is said that ever since the exposure that “15 of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis” the USA no longer considers Saudi Arabia its trusted ally as the latter is suspected for funding Osama bin Laden in lieu of the latter’s assurance to protect the monarchy from terrorist attacks. However, despite being aware of the situation , it is the compulsion of the USA to protect the oil-giant as the alliance between the two countries is based on their mutual interest of protecting the Arab-American oil companies which are running the cycle of the oil linked economy of the both.

This politics of convenience is known to the entire world but except raising some mild voice against it the international community is helplessly suffering from their game of self-seeking interest. Now USA is talking about launching ‘war on terror’ which hardly makes any sense so long Saudi Arabia is not out of the ideological ring of Wahhabism.

(The author can be reached at e-mail ramashray60@rediffmail.com)

SAUDI ARABIA: Ideological and Financial Epicentre of Jihad?
 
Yes ....Saudi Barbaria is the epicenter of world terror.....and guess what? they are America's ally on WOT !!!!...Stupid Americans ...Really stupid Americans.
 
Its all changing now. Americans started distancing themselves from Saudi. Huge exploration of oil recently acheived in Brazil and natural Gas in Australia.

Saudi Arabia is a land of uneven distribution of land. They have a population of over 20 million of which say 5 million are super rich and the rest are poor. Especially the south towards yemen.
 
SAUDI ARABIA: Ideological and Financial Epicentre of Jihad?

By R. Upadhyay

Jihadi terrorism which is inspired by the 260 year old tradition of extreme intolerance against the infidels flowing from the Saudi sponsored ideology of Wahhabism is the most challenging menace for the modern world.

With fusion of religion and political control, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia derived religious legitimacy from being the custodian of the two holiest shrines and controller of annual Haj pilgrimage and positioned itself to be the authoritative voice of Islamic world. However, when it faced the challenge of the Jihadi terrorists in its own land in late seventies of last century, it started spending billions of dollars for spreading Wahhabism in different countries with the objective to developing a clout in Islamic establishments. Due to this persistent and ruthless endeavour Wahhabi thought and customs are not only taking root among sizeable section of world Muslims but are also making inroads even among the peace loving faithfuls.

A cursory glance to the chronology of Jihadi terrorism gives an idea that empowerment to violent Islamists is not an overnight development. It is in fact a logical culmination of the politics of Arab imperialism which began after the death of Prophet Mohammad, the founder of Islam who in his first Jihad in 622 AD gave a command to his soldiers, “Fight and fear not, the gates of Paradise are under the shade of sword” (‘The Arabs’ by Anthony Nutting, Hollis & Carter, London, page 23). Similarly, in his last address before death in 632 he said, “I was ordered to fight all men until they say ‘there is no god but Allah’. (Prophet Mohammad’s farewell address, March 632 – Islamic Imperialism – A History – Efraim Karsh, Yale University Press London, 2006, page 2).

Interpreting these two calls as perpetual advice and Islamic sanction to the Arabic word Jihad which literally means struggle, his companions launched war not for the cause of Islamic spiritualism but for Arab Imperialism .Clubbing Islam with Arab culture and transforming it into a cleverly designed violent political ideology, the Arab warlords due to their mental make-up of ‘killed or be killed’ reminded their followers that so long all the Qafirs (Infidels that is non-Muslims) do not surrender to Islamic Empire and accept Allah as the One and Only God it is the obligation of each Muslim within his abilities to launch Jihad against the infidels. Pursuing such an interpretation of Islam, they turned the trail to bloodshed, pushed the spiritual aspect of the faith to the back burner and conquered vast territories from Spain in West to the Indian sub-continent in South. Many scholars therefore call this Jihad as civilisational war against the non-Arabs. Wahhabism, which laid the foundation stone of Saudi Arabia in mid eighteenth century is still its political ideology. It is also based on the same political interpretation of Islam by the medieval Muslim marauders and is still the root cause of the on going Jihadi terrorism.

Historically, in between the reign of the first Caliph Abu Bakre from 632 AD to the abolition of the Ottoman Empire in 1924, it was the story of the rise and fall of Arabs. However, when this mighty Islamic Empire of last Caliph entered into a period of military reverses, a hardcore Islamist zealot namely Maulana Mohammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab (1703-92) from the Najd region of Arabian Peninsula rejuvenated the movement for revival of pristine Islam based on extreme Arab traditions of Prophet Era with an objective to restore the glory of Islamic power. While advocating purging of Islam from modern innovation, he prescribed the imperialistic supremacy of Ummah (Muslim community) under the Arab leadership and recommended Jihad against the Qafirs, Shias, Sufis and the fellow Muslim heretics as the only solution to the evil being faced by the Muslims. For him worship to the tombs of Sufi saints was idolatry. Following the foot steps of the companions of the Prophet he also clubbed Islam with Arab culture and made these two words synonymous to each other. Wahhab’s worldview of extreme intolerance and belief in divine fiat of authoritarian state under the command of exclusively central Arabian power is also known as Sunni theo-fascism which continued and still continues to proliferate it across the globe.

Like Prophet Mohammad who was forced to flee from Mecca region at the beginning of revelations to him, Wahhab’s preaching was also not acceptable to the ruler of his region. Accordingly, being expelled from his home town he took refuge in Ad’Dirjyyah near Riyadh then under the control of an Arab war lord of Al Saud clan named Mohammad ibn Saud. Inspired with the teachings of Wahhab which advocated the fusion of Islam and political power, Ibn Saud, then a principal tribal leader of Arabian Peninsula became ambitious to extend his political territory and therefore forged an alliance with the former in 1744/1745. The Alliance was based on an agreement in which Ibn Saud pledged to implement and enforce his teachings for cleansing the Islamic practices of heresy; the latter endorsed the legitimacy of Saudi monarchy to rule over the Islamic Empire though the latter had no credible claim over it. Accordingly, the Saudi king with the Jihadi followers of Maulana Wahhab launched Jihad against the different rulers in Arabian Peninsula and expanded his political boundary by conquering various regions. Their attempt to capture Mecca was however, frustrated by the forces of the Ottoman Empire in 1818.

After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in 1924, the ambitious Saudi king re-launched Jihad against the kingdom of Hejaz then under the control of Ottoman representative Hussain, a Hashimite (A broader combination of a group of Arab clans including the Quraysh sub-clan of which Prophet Mohammad belonged). Defeating Hussain who was also the then Sharifs (Custodians) of Mecca shrine in 1926 the king became the custodian of the holiest place of Islam and his Saudi kingdom was duly recognised by United Kingdom under the Treaty of Jeddah in 1927 (The British then did not realize what they were doing). “For centuries Hashemites governed Mecca which was attacked and sacked by Ismaili Muslims in 930 CE and by the Wahhabis in 1803. In 1926, the Sharifs of Mecca were overthrown by the Saudis, and Mecca was incorporated into Saudi Arabia”. After conquering Mecca and Medina Ibn Saud united the different conquered regions of Arabian Peninsula in one political unit in1932, established the kingdom of Saudi Arabia and declared himself as king of the country. His legitimacy to lord over the region is thus questionable.

Since Saudi-Wahhabi partnership was based on mutual interest, Abdul Aziz took Wahhabism which had been carrying forward the legacy of the Arab instinct of imperialism, justifying the Saudi Monarchy since 1744 AD and endorsing the royal family’s authority in political, security and economic spheres of the state, as key to the longevity of the rule of his dynasty. Accordingly while recognising the Wahhabi version of Islamic rule as political ideology of his kingdom, he granted the Wahhabi clerics the control over religious, social and educational institutions and also allowed them to enforce the Sharia (Islamic law) in the kingdom rigidly. Since then Wahhabism became an integral part of Saudi administration and therefore, the royal family was duty bound to spend a substantial portion of its oil-earned revenue for its promotion not only in the kingdom but also across the world. The present day problems of the Muslim could thus be tracked to the Saudis.

Sharing a significant share in the political power of theocratic Saudi kingdom Wahhabi clerics have been enjoying the status of a much more privileged class in comparison to their counterparts during the medieval Islamic Empire. Today Wahhabism, a “most intolerant expression of Islam” is characterised as Islamo-fascist group due to its “ extremist, puritanical, contemptuous of modernity, misogynist and militant in nature” ( Wahhabi Islam: From revival and reform to global jihad by Natna J. Delong – Bas, page 3, I.B. Publishers).

As a first step to consolidate their hold in the masses, the Wahhabi clerics framed the educational policy and prescribed the text books in schools with a view to inciting hatred and violence against the infidels. Now these textbooks having the potential to indoctrinate the students and youths are also found in the syllabus of Wahhabi madrassas in various parts of the world. “Saudi text books describe Jihad as the summit of Islam and one of the most magnificent acts of obedience to God and endorse its militant form for both for defensive and aggressive purposes” (Nina Shea and Ali al Ahmad, National Review Online, August 3, 2009). Dr. Shea, the director of the Hudson Institute’s Centre for Religious Freedom and Commissioner on the US Commission on Religious Freedom is also the author of “200 Update: Saudi Arabia’s Curriculum of Intolerance”.The writer in her earlier paper dated September 5, 2008 referred to the Saudi Education Ministry which “publishes and disseminates teachings that Muslims are to hate and treat as enemies other religious believers, including other, non-Wahhabi Muslims”. She added that “these text books assert that it is permissible for a Muslim to kill an apostate, an adulterer, those practicing major polytheism and homosexuals. They promote global Jihad as an effort to wage war against the unbelievers including for the purpose of calling (infidels) to the faith”.

Curtin Winsor, Jr. Special Emissary to the Middle East during Regan administration in his paper (2001) entitled “Saudi Arabia, Wahhabism and Spread of Sunni Theo-fascism” observed: “While Saudi citizens remain the vanguard of Islamic theo-fascism around the world, the growth potential for this ideology lies outside the kingdom. The Saudis have spent at least $ 87 billion propagating Wahhabism abroad during the past two decades and the scale of financing is believed to have increased in the past two years as oil prices have sky rocketed. The bulk of the funding goes to the construction of mosques, madrassa, and other religious institutions that preach Wahhabism. It also supports the training of Imams; domination of mass media and publishing outlets; distribution of Wahhabi text books and other literatures; and endowment to universities”. Wahhabism has taken such a deep root in Saudi Arabia that “any attempt by Saudi Royal family under international pressure to curtail the Wahhabis could lead to terrorist attack on country’s vulnerable petroleum infrastructure or lead to the collapse of monarchy” (Ibid.).

The annual report 2004 on Saudi Arabia under ‘International Religious Freedom Act 1998 stated: “Government prohibits public non-Muslim religious activities. Non-Muslim worshippers risk imprisonment, lashing, deportation and sometimes torture for engaging in religious activities that attract official attention. Prosylytising by non-Muslims including the distribution of non-Muslim religious materials such as Bibles is illegal” (Saudi Arabia: People-Politics- Policies By Gulshan Dietl, National Book Trust, India, 2006, page 22). Although, the US Congress took note of this report but except declaring Saudi Arabia “a country of Particular Concern” it maintained silence on the issue. ‘Liberation’ a French daily in a debate published in early 2003 observed: “All over the world Imamas trained in Wahhabi school preach hatred and violence in mosques paid for with Saudi money” (The Saudi Enigma by Pascal Menoret, ZED Books London & New York, 2005, Page 62).

Dr. Sami Alrabaa, an ex Muslim and an Arab Muslim culture specialist in an article dated January 26, 2009 ( islam-watch.org) entitled “Saudi textbooks incite hatred & violence against non-Muslims” suggests that so long Saudi Arabia and the other Arab oil countries on the Persian Gulf are not forced by the free world the war on Islamic terror will remain futile.

Referring to Ahmad Al Sarraf a renowned columnist in Al Qabas (June 2, 2007), a Kuwaiti daily Dr. Sami cited the teachers manual in Grade 8 textbook which says, “ Command Muslims to hate Christians, Jews, polytheists and other unbelievers including non-devout Muslims” (Page 14 in Grade 8 textbook). In his another article dated February 10, 2009 the writer observed that the “Saudi King and his clan are the law. They rule whimsically, supported by Wahhabism, a stone-age Islamic version of Islam”. In another article on the Wahhabisation of Saudi people he observed, “A hatred-inciting education system and lack of contact with the secular world in terms of books and culture have generated a fanatic population” “All that being said, we should not wonder that 15 of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis”. He also wrote that Wahhabi books are also “printed and funded by Saudis for schools in Pakistan, Indonesia, Deobandi madrassas in India and elsewhere”. Despite such curriculum of intolerancee one should not wonder that the Saudi kingdom organized an interfaith dialogue with some of its trusted Christian and Jew leaders. (A paper of this writer can be seen in the site of saag.org).

It is said that ever since the exposure that “15 of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis” the USA no longer considers Saudi Arabia its trusted ally as the latter is suspected for funding Osama bin Laden in lieu of the latter’s assurance to protect the monarchy from terrorist attacks. However, despite being aware of the situation , it is the compulsion of the USA to protect the oil-giant as the alliance between the two countries is based on their mutual interest of protecting the Arab-American oil companies which are running the cycle of the oil linked economy of the both.

This politics of convenience is known to the entire world but except raising some mild voice against it the international community is helplessly suffering from their game of self-seeking interest. Now USA is talking about launching ‘war on terror’ which hardly makes any sense so long Saudi Arabia is not out of the ideological ring of Wahhabism.

(The author can be reached at e-mail ramashray60@rediffmail.com)

Excuse me, 260 years? Palestinian and Kashmir issue is only about 60+ years old there was no Islamic extremism before. Jews and Muslims have lived in peace for centuries. Albanian Muslim protected Jews feeling Hitler's army during WW2.

West/India/Israel doesn't want peace. India doesn't even want to talk about Kashmir issue with Paksitan.
Israel is keep building settlements and don't want give up land capture in 1967 war. Israel is using Hamas which to keep the fighting hamas, killing thousand of Muslims in Palestine and Lebanon. Saudi Arabia offer the peace to deal to give land capture and 1967 war and arab countries will recognize Israel but Israel rejected it. What more do they want?
U.N is nothing more then a whore used by West/USA to kill Muslim and protect Zionist and their agenda.


If there is peace in the world who are USA/Europe/Russia/China going to sell weapons to?
 
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Excuse me, 260 years? Palestinian and Kashmir issue is only about 60+ years old there was no Islamic extremism before. Jews and Muslims have lived in peace for centuries. Albanian Muslim protected Jews feeling Hitler's army during WW2.

West/India/Israel doesn't want peace. India doesn't even want to talk about Kashmir issue with Paksitan.
Israel is keep building settlements and don't want give up land capture in 1967 war. Israel is using Hamas which to keep the fighting hamas, killing thousand of Muslims in Palestine and Lebanon. Saudi Arabia offer the peace to deal to give land capture and 1967 war and arab countries will recognize Israel but Israel rejected it. What more do they want?
U.N is nothing more then a whore used by West/USA to kill Muslim and protect Zionist and their agenda.


If there is peace in the world who are USA/Europe/Russia/China going to sell weapons to?


Yes keep on saying it again and again and live in denial...Its the fellow muslims who is killing the muslims in Pakistan now can't you see??how many more innocents blood have to spill to open your eyes??
 
Yes keep on saying it again and again and live in denial...Its the fellow muslims who is killing the muslims in Pakistan now can't you see??how many more innocents blood have to spill to open your eyes??


This is nothing new. Abel son of Hazrat Adam (A.s) killed his own brother Cain for a woman.

Did you forget Iran & Iraq war? Muslims fighting each other. Was Saudi Arabia involve?
Shia - Sunni fighting in Iraq and Pakistan. Was Saudi Arabia involve?

There is not such thing as Wahabisim. This is just a propaganda against Saudi Arabia and Islam. Since west can't attack Mecca & Medina directly they want to attack the believe of Muslim.
Islam is what Allah revealed to his prophets, Abrahim, Dawood, Mosa and Esa (a.s) and his last prophet Muhammad (S.A.W), nothing more and nothing less.

Only Shia and Sufi, Ithna Ashari, Isma’ili, Barelvi oppose the teaching of Rasulullah (s.a.w).
Hazrat Wahab (may Allah have mercy on him) stop people for innovation (shirks and bidah) which currently doing by people in pakistan and india.He did jiahad aganist all these type of things and if he did not do This then in makkah and madina todays people do LUNGARS, URUS, ETC.

Barevli deviated from the true path, they have innovated Eid Milad-un-Nabi (Birthday), Anniversary, Barsi, Soyem, Chelum, Gyarweeh Sharif, Koonday-e-Niyaz.

If the birthday of Rasool Allah (saw) was such an important celebration, surely they would have remembered it and noted it down. Further more, there is also no proof from history that Prophet Muhammad (saw) mentioned his exact date of birth nor encouraged his followers to hold milads or recite durood loudly on this day.

Neither is it recorded from any Sahaba that they celebrated his date of birth.

Hadith - Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 49, Number 861. Narrated Aisha, r.a.

Allah's Apostle SAAWS said, "If somebody innovates something which is not in harmony with the principles of our religion, that thing is rejected."


Hadith - Abu Dawud, Narrated Ali ibn Abu Talib

The Prophet said, If anyone introduces an innovation in the religion, he will be responsible for it. (Good or bad). If anyone introduces an innovation or gives shelter to a man who introduces an innovation (in the religion) he is cursed by Allaah, by His angels and by all the people.


West is supporting corrupted believe of Barevlism (Bidat-e-Siyah) and Ahemadi movement in Pakistan and rest of the world. These Barevis have divided people, they don't want people to learn Islam and reject Barevlism. ***** Barevli mullahs divided People and spread lies against other Muslims, especially linking Tablighi Jamat (It is effort of deen. It is not a sect or organization) to Wahabism and terrorism.
Check out Youtube, they have created these fake videos about Moulana Tariq Jameel, Haji Abdul Wahab Sahib and Dr Zakir Naik.

Hadith - Bukhari 9:391, Narrated Abu Huraira
The Prophet said, "Leave me as I leave you, for the people who were before you were ruined because of their questions and their differences over their prophets. So, if I forbid you to do something, then keep away from it. And if I order you to do something, then do of it as much as you can."


One think I have noticed that Shia and Barelvis don't pray behind the Imam in Mecca and Medina. Barelvis calling Imam Kafir and qustaq-e-Nabi. They also doing sajdah to roza-e-mubarak.

Barelvi total population is decreasing in Pakistan because of the effort by Dr. Israr ahmed and others who want to educated people about Islam. (Dr. Zakir Naik, even though I don't agree with him on many issues, I still think he is doing good Job educating Muslims.)

Barelvis are mainly in Punjab and very few in Sindh, NWPF and Balochistann has been saved because of the effort by Tablighi-e-Jamat. Punjabi Barelvi have taken this corrupted believe to UK and USA.

Noble Qur'an - An-Nur 24:54

Say: "Obey Allah and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away, he (Messenger Muhammad ) is only responsible for the duty placed on him (i.e. to convey Allah's Message) and you for that placed on you. If you obey him, you shall be on the right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to convey (the message) in a clear way (i.e. to preach in a plain way)."


Do Barelvi follow the messenger of Allah? This is not sunnah to color your masjid green. Sunnah is to bring 100% deen in our life, as Muslim we need to follow the sunnah completely, life style of Rasulullah (s.a.w).
We need to love everyone, even Jews and Hindus because Rasulullah (s.a.w) respected everyone (Jews, Christian and kuffar). There is misconception that Muslim Hate Jews. We only hate Zionist who want to destroy Islam.

After the conquest of Mecca, Meccan thought they will be killed because Muslim have conquer Mecca. But Rasulullah (s.a.w) made announcement to Meccan that they have 4 months, if they don't accepted Islam then they can leave mecca peacefully. Because of Amals (Dawat-E-Illallah, Teaching and learning, Zikr and ibadat, and Khadmat) and the effort made by Muslims everyone in Mecca accepted Islam.

Let me ask you one more time, do Barelvi follow Rasullallah (S.a.W)? Barelvi's hate everyone, anyone that doesn't believe what they believe they hate him and call him Kafir.
 
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The salafi doctrine does not consider most muslims to be muslim under the pretext of bidah.

The murder of muslims it completely acceptable to salafi scholars.

The salafi scholars themselves call themselves wahabi not some external entity.

Suicide bombing is Kufr. Suicide clearly leads a Soul to Hell. This is the position of Ulema through the centuries.

The Prophet would not have accepted Suicide bombing as a tactic.

The murder of children in a market by the Salafi movement places the SIN of murder upon the heads of all Scholars of the Salafi movement.

When I have personally explained this to Salafi scholars they have sat there shaking.

Suicide bombing is HARAM.

Love and Blessings,
Khizr
 
This article is full of crap , full of propaganda and lies There are Saudi sponsors of Terrorism NOT THE SAUDI GOVET!!!!!!!!( they are closing down on those people too)

Then why TF the author is relating Saudi arabia as a whole for supporting terror :tdown:???

The title itself is a pathetic attempt to relate Jihad with Terrorism WTF?

Author is an INDIAN from Indian media and everyone knows their

misery and their pain about Arabs;). The Zionists propaganda against

the Muslims on every major media source is on its peak , who provide

money to Mislead people ....:agree:

waste of time reading such an article , substandard!
 
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This is nothing new. Abel son of Hazrat Adam (A.s) killed his own brother Cain for a woman.

Did you forget Iran & Iraq war? Muslims fighting each other. Was Saudi Arabia involve?
Shia - Sunni fighting in Iraq and Pakistan. Was Saudi Arabia involve?

There is not such thing as Wahabisim. This is just a propaganda against Saudi Arabia and Islam. Since west can't attack Mecca & Medina directly they want to attack the believe of Muslim.
Islam is what Allah revealed to his prophets, Abrahim, Dawood, Mosa and Esa (a.s) and his last prophet Muhammad (S.A.W), nothing more and nothing less.

Only Shia and Sufi, Ithna Ashari, Isma’ili, Barelvi oppose the teaching of Rasulullah (s.a.w).
Hazrat Wahab (may Allah have mercy on him) stop people for innovation (shirks and bidah) which currently doing by people in pakistan and india.He did jiahad aganist all these type of things and if he did not do This then in makkah and madina todays people do LUNGARS, URUS, ETC.

Barevli deviated from the true path, they have innovated Eid Milad-un-Nabi (Birthday), Anniversary, Barsi, Soyem, Chelum, Gyarweeh Sharif, Koonday-e-Niyaz.



Hadith - Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 49, Number 861. Narrated Aisha, r.a.

Allah's Apostle SAAWS said, "If somebody innovates something which is not in harmony with the principles of our religion, that thing is rejected."


Hadith - Abu Dawud, Narrated Ali ibn Abu Talib

The Prophet said, If anyone introduces an innovation in the religion, he will be responsible for it. (Good or bad). If anyone introduces an innovation or gives shelter to a man who introduces an innovation (in the religion) he is cursed by Allaah, by His angels and by all the people.


West is supporting corrupted believe of Barevlism (Bidat-e-Siyah) and Ahemadi movement in Pakistan and rest of the world. These Barevis have divided people, they don't want people to learn Islam and reject Barevlism. ***** Barevli mullahs divided People and spread lies against other Muslims, especially linking Tablighi Jamat (It is effort of deen. It is not a sect or organization) to Wahabism and terrorism.
Check out Youtube, they have created these fake videos about Moulana Tariq Jameel, Haji Abdul Wahab Sahib and Dr Zakir Naik.

Hadith - Bukhari 9:391, Narrated Abu Huraira
The Prophet said, "Leave me as I leave you, for the people who were before you were ruined because of their questions and their differences over their prophets. So, if I forbid you to do something, then keep away from it. And if I order you to do something, then do of it as much as you can."


One think I have noticed that Shia and Barelvis don't pray behind the Imam in Mecca and Medina. Barelvis calling Imam Kafir and qustaq-e-Nabi. They also doing sajdah to roza-e-mubarak.

Barelvi total population is decreasing in Pakistan because of the effort by Dr. Israr ahmed and others who want to educated people about Islam. (Dr. Zakir Naik, even though I don't agree with him on many issues, I still think he is doing good Job educating Muslims.)

Barelvis are mainly in Punjab and very few in Sindh, NWPF and Balochistann has been saved because of the effort by Tablighi-e-Jamat. Punjabi Barelvi have taken this corrupted believe to UK and USA.

Noble Qur'an - An-Nur 24:54

Say: "Obey Allah and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away, he (Messenger Muhammad ) is only responsible for the duty placed on him (i.e. to convey Allah's Message) and you for that placed on you. If you obey him, you shall be on the right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to convey (the message) in a clear way (i.e. to preach in a plain way)."


Do Barelvi follow the messenger of Allah? This is not sunnah to color your masjid green. Sunnah is to bring 100% deen in our life, as Muslim we need to follow the sunnah completely, life style of Rasulullah (s.a.w).
We need to love everyone, even Jews and Hindus because Rasulullah (s.a.w) respected everyone (Jews, Christian and kuffar). There is misconception that Muslim Hate Jews. We only hate Zionist who want to destroy Islam.

After the conquest of Mecca, Meccan thought they will be killed because Muslim have conquer Mecca. But Rasulullah (s.a.w) made announcement to Meccan that they have 4 months, if they don't accepted Islam then they can leave mecca peacefully. Because of Amals (Dawat-E-Illallah, Teaching and learning, Zikr and ibadat, and Khadmat) and the effort made by Muslims everyone in Mecca accepted Islam.

Let me ask you one more time, do Barelvi follow Rasullallah (S.a.W)? Barelvi's hate everyone, anyone that doesn't believe what they believe they hate him and call him Kafir.



As salam o alikum

i request you not to give any further explanation on this topic , as we know the Nature of this post being on this forum dont we?;)

" Urfi to muyandesh zaghu ghaye raqeeban --- Awaz e sagan kam na kunad rizq e Gadara" !:pakistan:
 
This article is full of crap , full of propaganda and lies There are Saudi sponsors of Terrorism NOT THE SAUDI GOVET!!!!!!!!( they are closing down on those people too)

Then why TF the author is relating Saudi arabia as a whole for supporting terror :tdown:???

The title itself is a pathetic attempt to relate Jihad with Terrorism WTF?

Author is an INDIAN from Indian media and everyone knows their

misery and their pain about Arabs;). The Zionists propaganda against

the Muslims on every major media source is on its peak , who provide

money to Mislead people ....:agree:

waste of time reading such an article , substandard!



Black blood where you think all the money for this terrorists activities come from??A lots of funds are coming from middle eastern nations ..Yes Saudis are cracking down terrorists but what about the flow of funds to the terrorist hands??Are they doing enough to stop that??

Who related Jihad to the terrorism??Is it western media or the terrorist them selves??Every attack against India,Western nations and Israel was told as Jihad ..Its only they started attacking Muslim countries people started differentiating Jihad and terrorism..

And also in India not every one is a fan of Jews ..
 
Black blood where you think all the money for this terrorists activities come from??A lots of funds are coming from middle eastern nations ..Yes Saudis are cracking down terrorists but what about the flow of funds to the terrorist hands??Are they doing enough to stop that??

Who related Jihad to the terrorism??Is it western media or the terrorist them selves??Every attack against India,Western nations and Israel was told as Jihad ..Its only they started attacking Muslim countries people started differentiating Jihad and terrorism..

And also in India not every one is a fan of Jews ..


There is a difference of opinion here!

To me TTP is a terrorist Org.

Afghan talibs are freedom fighters i admire them , they do not have anything to do against with Pakistan , they are fighting for their freedom.

If few saudies support afghans then i must say they are doing the right thing.

If some of them support suicide bombers ( anywhere in the world) then those are wrong and they must be punished.

As long as you differ between Jihad & terror thats fine with me!
Your people would'nt matter in Zionists relationship perspective because it the Govt they are using not indians and Trust me you guys will Regret this relation.... we know Zionists for last 1500 years..
Regards:
 
There is a difference of opinion here!

To me TTP is a terrorist Org.

Afghan talibs are freedom fighters i admire them , they do not have anything to do against with Pakistan , they are fighting for their freedom.

If few saudies support afghans then i must say they are doing the right thing.

If some of them support suicide bombers ( anywhere in the world) then those are wrong and they must be punished.

As long as you differ between Jihad & terror thats fine with me!
Your people would'nt matter in Zionists relationship perspective because it the Govt they are using not indians and Trust me you guys will Regret this relation.... we know Zionists for last 1500 years..
Regards:


For the sake of humanity don't consider Afghan talibs as freedom fighters..As i told many times TTP and Afghan talibs share the common ideologies..The same guys funding them are funding TTP too..If they come in to power in Afghan there is a chance that TTP will gain more power..

As you know lots of cruelties are done by them to women ..Killing and beating them in public ..As I learned from this forum,No Muslims will agree with this beatings and killings..

Black blood stop differentiates between bad terrorism and good terrorism..Its high time we should treat them as bad only and take necessary actions..Otherwise no country in South Asia will survive from those lawless guys..
 
The salafi doctrine does not consider most muslims to be muslim under the pretext of bidah.

The murder of muslims it completely acceptable to salafi scholars.

The salafi scholars themselves call themselves wahabi not some external entity.

Suicide bombing is Kufr. Suicide clearly leads a Soul to Hell. This is the position of Ulema through the centuries.

The Prophet would not have accepted Suicide bombing as a tactic.

The murder of children in a market by the Salafi movement places the SIN of murder upon the heads of all Scholars of the Salafi movement.

When I have personally explained this to Salafi scholars they have sat there shaking.

Suicide bombing is HARAM.

Love and Blessings,
Khizr

"Wahabbi" scholars aka salafi scholars from Saudi Arabia have always maintained that suicide bombings even in the case of Jihad is haram. Here is a fatwa from a Saudi Scholar that was given during the Palestinian bombings of the 80s
Shaykh Muhammad Bin Saalih al-'Uthaymeen was asked the following concerning attacking an enemy by blowing oneself up, "What is the ruling regarding acts of jihad by means of suicide, such as attaching explosives to a car and storming the enemy, whereby he knows without a doubt that he shall die as a result of this action?"

Shaykh al-'Uthaymeen responded by saying, "Indeed, my opinion is that he is regarded as one who has committed suicide, and as a result he shall be punished in Hell, for that which is authenticated on the authority of the Prophet (may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace), "Indeed, whoever (intentionally) kills himself, then certainly he will be punished in the Fire of Hell, wherein he shall dwell forever."

Source

Salafis might seem to have an introverted and at times bigoted world view but they do'nt support acts of terrorism like Al Qaeda does. The suicide bombings were first started by groups like Hizbullah in Palestine and joined by HAMAS and ideologues like Abdullah Azzam.

The real ideology is "Qutubism" if put in a word. Please go through this thread were its discussed in detail and to understand what is the ideology behind this.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/curren...red-questions-case-pakistan-6.html#post572731
 
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For the sake of humanity don't consider Afghan talibs as freedom fighters..As i told many times TTP and Afghan talibs share the common ideologies..The same guys funding them are funding TTP too..If they come in to power in Afghan there is a chance that TTP will gain more power..

As you know lots of cruelties are done by them to women ..Killing and beating them in public ..As I learned from this forum,No Muslims will agree with this beatings and killings..

Black blood stop differentiates between bad terrorism and good terrorism..Its high time we should treat them as bad only and take necessary actions..Otherwise no country in South Asia will survive from those lawless guys..



I do respect your faithfulness and sincerity.!

Again difference of opinion , to me Afghan talibs have done nothing to anyone but TTP is the one ( group of bhigoras) to do all of the damage to the region.

Afghan talibs follow an agreement made years ago not to harm Pak:pakistan:
TTP does not !

I hate terrorists and those who kill innocents but Afghans have a mission which is to live freely according to their own rules and they have every right to do that!

BTW i agree with you but lets say there are Black sheep everywhere!:tup:
 
I do respect your faithfulness and sincerity.!

Again difference of opinion , to me Afghan talibs have done nothing to anyone but TTP is the one ( group of bhigoras) to do all of the damage to the region.

Afghan talibs follow an agreement made years ago not to harm Pak:pakistan:
TTP does not !

I hate terrorists and those who kill innocents but Afghans have a mission which is to live freely according to their own rules and they have every right to do that!

BTW i agree with you but lets say there are Black sheep everywhere!:tup:

Hello there! Sorry to have jumped in. Few things come to mind after going through your post above:

1. Are you saying that just because Afghan talibans (AT) wouldn't harm pakistan (I personally do not believe so), makes them likable to Pakistanis?

2. Even if we consider for arguments sake that the AT are freedom fighters, aren't they killing innocents civilians including women and children? What does it make them, terrorist or not?

3. Wouldn't you agree that if people of Afghanistan wants to live by the rules preached by the AT, it would be lot smarter for the AT to not try IMPOSE it on the public by gun power? Shouldn't they be part of the political system and ask the Afghanis to the question how they would actually like to live?

4. Wouldn't you agree that if the AT let goes their violent preaching and be part of the political system, all external presence their will vanish within no time? Will it not actually help them become a free country sooner by shuning violence?

5. What's your PERSONAL opinion on the period when the AT actually ruled Afghanistan?

6. After answering the above queries, now tell me again, do you actually see the AT as the freedom fighters they pretend to be? Isn't there something bigger, bitter and global ideology behind them, which is pregnant with possible disturbance to the entire south asia and beyond?
 
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