SAC FC-31 Stealth Fighter: News & Discussions

[Deino]

That means Pakistan needs to invest a lot of on high tech department. No offense, but it means Pakistan need to import a lot of equipment from all over the world, China can supply most of them, such as hydraulic press forge.

Pakistan need tens of billions of hard cash down payment. I think Pakistan will do it when CPEC get enough fruits.
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Can we please leave out Pakistan on this thread? there is a dedicated FC-31 topic in the PAF section (https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/sac-...rcraft-for-paf-updates-debate.343466/page-174) but again and again to discuss how much Pakistan would, could, should benefit from this project if China would supply is boring and irrelevant to the Chinese military.

Thanks

 

[LKJ86]

Via @沉默的山羊 from Weibo

 

[The Eagle]

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Via @沉默的山羊 from Weibo

This is in-fact V2 of FC-31. Unfortunately, we aren't seeing much from this project except few pictures as such that too with span of month.

 

[Fsjal]

FC-31 V2 is honestly a nice conventional design. A shame that its future remains a bit ambiguous. Since J-20 is its bigger and heavier counterpart, FC-31 would be decent enough to fill in the lightweight stealth fighter slot within the PLAAF.

 

[Ali_Baba]

FC31 is a dead dead project, it is going nowhere fast. No one wants this puppy, its only a matter of time when SAC shuts it down completely.

 

[LKJ86]

FC31 is a dead dead project, it is going nowhere fast. No one wants this puppy, its only a matter of time when SAC shuts it down completely.

FC-31 is just another L-15.
It is impossible for AVIC to provide another choice for PLAAF or PLAN.

 

[Akasa]

FC-31 is just another L-15.
It is impossible for AVIC to provide another choice for PLAAF or PLAN.

There was a rumor that a naval fighter is being developed on the basis of the FC-31, and is supposedly called "J-35". Any news or developments for that alleged program?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

FC-31 is same size class as J-10. Could have made a good J-10 replacement down the road.

 

[lcloo]

The only way for (private) J31 project to proceed is to have a committed buyer with big stash of money, so far there is no none.

Chinese saying 一山不容二虎 "A mountain can not accommodate two tigers", thus there in no place for J31 in PLAAF, though there is still a chance for J31 in PLAN.

 

[waja2000]

FC-31 V2 is honestly a nice conventional design. A shame that its future remains a bit ambiguous. Since J-20 is its bigger and heavier counterpart, FC-31 would be decent enough to fill in the lightweight stealth fighter slot within the PLAAF.

FC-31 is mid class stealth fighter seems small to Fit PLAAF requirement (PLAAF prefer heavy figther due large airspace) also FC-31 not yet receive proper engine to perform what can do. wait see next year news said will have new engine for FC-31.

FC-31 is same size class as J-10. Could have made a good J-10 replacement down the road.

That is many people talk, but for PLAAF FC-31 too much purchase/operation cost compare to J-10. so J-20/J-11/J/15/Su35 pair with J-10 now. dual-engine VS Single engine cost,
news said Chengdu Aircraft develop new Single engine stealth fighter to replace J-10 possible see in 2023-24

 

[Fsjal]

FC-31 is mid class stealth fighter seems small to Fit PLAAF requirement (PLAAF prefer heavy figther due large airspace) also FC-31 not yet receive proper engine to perform what can do. wait see next year news said will have new engine for FC-31.

Heavy fighters like J-11B do give PLAAF the necessary range for operations within and around China, but lighter fighters like J-10 are cheaper and less maintenance-intensive which is why PLAAF operates large numbers of J-10 to complement its Sino-Flanker fleet. FC-31 has potential for supplementing the J-20 in PLAAF service.

 

[Deino]

Happy 7th anniversary ...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1189926343846154240

 

[Rank]

Dead?

 

[JSCh]

China begins development of new stealth fighter jet: report
By Liu Xuanzun Source:Global Times Published: 2019/12/13 18:43:40 Last Updated: 2019/12/14 0:45:21

A Chinese FC-31 stealth fighter has its test flight. Photo: Xinhua

China is developing a new type of fighter jet, according to the country's top aircraft design institutes on Thursday. Military observers predict, based on publicly available information, that the aircraft will be stealth-capable and feature the significant use of advanced composite materials.

In 2018, the structure department of the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) Shenyang Aircraft Design and Research Institute and the arms project department of the AVIC Manufacturing Technology Institute jointly established a team codenamed "JJ" with the aim of developing a new type of fighter jet, according to an article released on both institutes' public WeChat accounts this week.

The joint-development project was first planned in June 2018 and commenced with an opening ceremony in September 2018. The JJ team submitted an illustration of a test piece in November 2019, according to the article.

The article did not elaborate on the name or specifics of the new fighter jet, but it provided a photo which suggests the JJ team might include a smaller group focused on the development of an S-shaped air duct.

S-shaped air ducts are usually found in stealth aircraft as they obscure the engine from hostile radar, a military expert who asked to remain anonymous told the Global Times on Friday.

Three groups under the JJ team received awards during a commendation ceremony held on Tuesday, the article read. Two of the groups developed composite materials for the entire structure and integrated metal inlet, while the other preliminarily demonstrated a type of advanced material.

"The team has completed the cross-phase development of the new fighter jet. [We] have used innovation and realized a technical breakthrough for the body's design and manufacturing," said Xiao Shan, one of the awarded researchers, according to the article.

AVIC's Shenyang branch is known for developing a number of Chinese fighter jets including the J-11, the J-16, and in particular the J-15 carrier-based fighter jet. It also designed China's second stealth aircraft following the J-20, namely the FC-31, which did not enter Chinese military service and became a made-for-export product.

Some military observers have speculated that the new fighter jet could be an upgraded, domestic version of the FC-31, while others predict it could be an entirely different aircraft.

Many military enthusiasts also expect the Shenyang Institute to develop China's next-generation carrier-based fighter jet.

 

[Akasa]

China begins development of new stealth fighter jet: report
By Liu Xuanzun Source:Global Times Published: 2019/12/13 18:43:40 Last Updated: 2019/12/14 0:45:21

A Chinese FC-31 stealth fighter has its test flight. Photo: Xinhua

China is developing a new type of fighter jet, according to the country's top aircraft design institutes on Thursday. Military observers predict, based on publicly available information, that the aircraft will be stealth-capable and feature the significant use of advanced composite materials.

In 2018, the structure department of the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) Shenyang Aircraft Design and Research Institute and the arms project department of the AVIC Manufacturing Technology Institute jointly established a team codenamed "JJ" with the aim of developing a new type of fighter jet, according to an article released on both institutes' public WeChat accounts this week.

The joint-development project was first planned in June 2018 and commenced with an opening ceremony in September 2018. The JJ team submitted an illustration of a test piece in November 2019, according to the article.

The article did not elaborate on the name or specifics of the new fighter jet, but it provided a photo which suggests the JJ team might include a smaller group focused on the development of an S-shaped air duct.

S-shaped air ducts are usually found in stealth aircraft as they obscure the engine from hostile radar, a military expert who asked to remain anonymous told the Global Times on Friday.

Three groups under the JJ team received awards during a commendation ceremony held on Tuesday, the article read. Two of the groups developed composite materials for the entire structure and integrated metal inlet, while the other preliminarily demonstrated a type of advanced material.

"The team has completed the cross-phase development of the new fighter jet. [We] have used innovation and realized a technical breakthrough for the body's design and manufacturing," said Xiao Shan, one of the awarded researchers, according to the article.

AVIC's Shenyang branch is known for developing a number of Chinese fighter jets including the J-11, the J-16, and in particular the J-15 carrier-based fighter jet. It also designed China's second stealth aircraft following the J-20, namely the FC-31, which did not enter Chinese military service and became a made-for-export product.

Some military observers have speculated that the new fighter jet could be an upgraded, domestic version of the FC-31, while others predict it could be an entirely different aircraft.

Many military enthusiasts also expect the Shenyang Institute to develop China's next-generation carrier-based fighter jet.

What does "cross-phase" mean? Production-vs-design transition?